[OOC] Fate/stay Night - War of the Fourteen Magi - High Casual

[vancexentan]

Note: Any role currently not taken can be applied for and in the case of a reserved one already you can apply for it in case of a drop out.

Link for Collaboration post site that may be helpful to some: https://titanpad.com/

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The year is 2012 and the next holy grail war is set to begin with the last ending in a flat out no-contest with the death of one of the magi ending in two friends left forcing them to call it a draw as neither side wanted to end the other. Or at the very least that is what the church overseer had claimed. The last war was held in Fuyuki city, and now it seems to be held there once more due to the failure of the previous masters whom saw the war fail to find a proper conclusion leading to the aforementioned draw. However the pent up magic from the previous war seems to have caused unfortunate consequences in this war as well. As the masters begin to gather and summon their servants it would seem that there is a specific clause for this particular war. An enforcement made by the guardians of the grail itself in order to make sure a winner is definitely declared in this war. The grail's magic in the last war seems to have somehow been used to reawaken old bloodlines of magisters and has caused an influx of a new group of potential candidates whom all seem to wish to take on the chance to win this new power despite some being slow to learn, others have quickly mastered their powers. How many masters, and magus whom have been reawakened by this new power is unknown. However some mages have taken up the challenge of finding out why this has happened, and how to little success.

The war is just beginning and the stipulation has been sent out by the neutral priest whom is acting as the overseer, the individual in charge of the war. The groups shall break up into teams of seven people or less. The winners of the war shall all receive one minor wish granted to them personally due to the nature of the war the grail's magic may end up needing to be shared among the winning party. Though how they are to team up is up to them there will need to be two sides of the war anyone who refuses to side with a party is allowed to continue fighting in the war however they will be outnumbered, and possibly eliminated quickly. To this end the neutral party led by the Overseer has inclined to offer a meet up at his large home for those who wish to become a part of a side without having to seek out other masters by themselves. This war is setting up to become a mess as rules have been changed and old rivalries have been resurrected from long past eras. What shall come of the war is up to the masters and the servants who fight for them.

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Rules:
1. All Standard Roleplay Rules Apply. Power Playing, God Modding, and other assorted non-sense is not allowed.
2. No over powered servants. Demi-Gods, and servants such as Gilgamesh, Beserker Lancelot/Hercules, and folks of that nature are not allowed. I can't have unkillable servants that make everyone else pale in comparison.
3. I must approve of your characters personally before allowing them into the roleplay. Characters not approved do not get noticed in the IC. Post characters in the OOC before approval.
4. PVP is allowed and will be taken up in the arena however BOTH parties must agree to the battle in order to prevent random player killings in the middle of the roleplay.
5. Everyone starts with three command seals.
6. 2 Noble Phantasm limit on Servants whom are not canon. This is to prevent power playing, and shenanigans.
7. I reserve the right to gm to reject characters for any basis. Be it for personal conduct, or roleplay reasons.
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Here's a list of roles currently claimed:
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Servant
Saber: Maiden of Orleans - VanceXentan
Archer: Open
Lancer: Chinese Martial Master Lancer - Tarkin
Rider - open
Caster:
Assassin: The Vengeneful Assassin - Alter
Berserker: Lovestruck Dragon - Charak

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Character List:
Leon Winchester - VanceXentan

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NPC List:
Brother Jun - Mediator from the Mage Association
Father Walter - Head Mediator/Overseer from the Mage Society
Saber - Unknown Name
Archer: Unknown Name
Lancer: Unknown Name
Rider: Unknown Name
Caster: Unknown Name
Assassin: Unknown Name
Beserker: Unknown Name
Togami Keiji - Master of ____

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Character Sheets:

Magi Sheet:

Name:
Nicknames:
Age:
Gender:
Master of:
Command Seal Location:
Wish:
Origin: http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Magecraft
Appearance:
-
Personality:

Biography:

-

Magecraft Section:

School of Magecraft: (what type of abilities do you study specifically see above magecraft link)

Skills/Spells List: (Please include how many times you can cast specific spells)

Amount of Magecraft Mana: (A-E)

Other: (for anything that I may have missed)
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Servant Character sheet:
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Servant

Class Name:

Nicknames:

Alignment:

Servant of:

Catalyst For Summon:

Weapon(s):

Wish:

Abilities:

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Skill

Skills (Custom ones are allowed Rate A-E):

Class Abilities:

Base Parameters:
(Rate them A-E. Normal Human (or humans that actually existed) Servants will rarely have certain attributes above C unless their history, or tales depict them of being able to use one of them very handily)
Strength: (筋力, Kinryoku?): Bodily might in terms of power.
Endurance: (耐久, Taikyū?): How much damage one can withstand.
Agility: (敏捷, Binshō?): Quickness and speed of reaction.
Magical Power: (魔力, Maryoku?): How much magical energy can be handled.
Good luck: (幸運, Kōun?): The quality of one's luck.
Noble Phantasm: (宝具, Hōgu?): The strength of the Noble Phantasm one owns. While the ranking will often match their strongest Noble Phantasm, it will sometimes only reflect a secondary Noble Phantasm, or display a ranking higher or lower than their available wares.

Noble Phantasms: (http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Noble_Phantasm)
Name:
Quote:
Rank:
Type:
Range:
Description:

True Name: (can be put in hider for those who don't wish to show it to others, and you should link a bio if available)

Appearance:

[1Charak2]

Firstly the servant.

Berserker

Nicknames: The White Dragon

Alignment: Chaotic Evil

Servant of: ????

Catalyst For Summon: One of the scales which she left behind before her death.

Weapon(s): Besides the metal fan she likes to carry around that is capable of cutting objects, her own body is a weapon due to her shapeshifting skills.

Wish: To become the wife to her master.

Skills

Name Stalking
Rank B
Effect Something that may also be described as a wild instinct that includes magic power and the fives senses, she tracks down her master no matter how far the distance.

Name Shapeshifting
Rank C
Effect: Gives her the abilty to transform into a poisonous serpent and low ranking dragon forms (for flight) the dragons do not feature the traits commonly attributed to them and are more equaivalent to flying snakes if anything. Both forms are poisonous and the venom is a paralytic but not lethal.

Name: Flame Coloured Kiss
Rank: A
Effect: It is what Kiyohime wishes from her Master. If it means she would be able to join her lips with her Master's, she would be willing to push aside every obstacle and become Super Kiyohime-chan. The compensation would be that the future of the Master would be fixed (as a groom), but that is just a trivial risk.

Class Abilities:

Madness Enhancement: EX

Communication is perfectly established between Kiyohime and her Master, but she will treat her Master as a 'loved one' and prohibits him/her from lying. If one lies and Kiyohime definitely saw through whatever lie was said, one Command Spell is automatically consumed.

Grant her Mental Pollution of EX level but no rank up to parameters.

Base Parameters

Strength: E
Endurance: E
Agility: C
Magical Power: E
Good luck: E
Noble Phantasm: EX

Noble Phantasms:

The First and Final Noble Phantasm of Berserker

Name: Samadhi Through Transforming Flames
Quote:
“Watch over me!"
"As of now I'll eliminate the liar."
"Samadhi Through Transforming Flames!!”
Rank: EX
Type: Anti-Unit (Self)
Range: 0(minimum) - 10 (maximum *achieved through the usage of the dragons breath*)
Description:
The range of her fiery breath is her most potent aspect due to it spewing forth in a cone it allows her to easily handle single units by herself (unless they are able to regenerate the damage through some defensive noble phantasm. However, a comparison of the damage she can do is that under a constant stream of her dragon breath, she can break through anything Caledborg II can, and in same cases more. However, unlike Caledborg II who does it instantly upon impact, she requires constantly exposing the enemy to her attack.

Her upper body features two claws which in terms of cutting power function as B rank noble-phantasm swords by power alone. They have no other special features.

Both of these are base level, without factoring in the fact that she is fighting in her homeland which would naturally make it slightly strong but her legend isn't as well known so the increase is slight at best.

Her stats also change in this form to better suit her status as a phantasmal beast. They become
Strength: (筋力, Kinryoku?): A+
Endurance: (耐久, Taikyū?): A+
Agility: (敏捷, Binshō?): C+
Magical Power: (魔力, Maryoku?): B
Good luck: (幸運, Kōun?): E

and she gains (due to her now Dragonic blood in this state):
Magical Resistance: A

Her appearance is a large white serpentine dragon, with claws featuring only on its upper body. It is capable of flight through some arcane means. This Transformation due to the amount of mana it expedites is almost impossible for her to pull it off by herself as a servant even with soul consumption. It requires a great deal of mana from the master in order to occur and be sustained. Making it a noble phantasm that is reliant on the master to have any extreme impact.

True Name:

The Dragon wishing to be a Wife

Kiyohime

Appearance

Appearance

Dragon form:

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Calm

Anger

[vancexentan]

Alright they look ok so far considering what we've been discussing now she needs a master which I'm sure you're already working on.

[Kost Alter]

Here's my custom Servant for this:

Assassin

Class Name: Assassin

Appearance

True Name

Clytemnestra

Nicknames: The Woman Who Slew a King

Alignment: Lawful Neutral

Servant of: N/A

Catalyst For Summon

Viable catalysts include Remains of the Trojan Horse (used for all Servants connected in any way to the Trojan War), Remains of Hippolyta's Axe, or The Mask of Agamemnon.

Weapon(s): Her axe (which is also one of her Noble Phantasms), a veil that she uses as a net.

Wish

Despite her vengeful nature, if Clytemnestra ever got the Holy Grail, her only wish would be to see her daughter Iphigenia again.

Class Skills:

Presence Concealment (Rank: B)

The capacity to hide one's presence as a Servant. Suitable for spying. It is possible to disappear and become extremely difficult to be detected. The Rank of Presence Concealment drops considerably when preparing to attack.

Independent Action (Rank: B)

The ability to remain independent even when rejecting the Magical Energy supply from one's Master. At Rank B, it is possible for a Servant to stay in the world for 2 days without a Master. However, this is the ideal value achieved by maximally conserving Mana and avoiding battle and Noble Phantasm usage.

Personal Skills:

Charisma (Rank: D)

A composite Skill consisting of a person's charm as well as the natural talent to command or unify an army or country. Increases the ability of allies during group battles. Having been the Queen of Mycenae during her lifetime, Clytemnestra naturally possesses this Skill. However, its Rank is quite low due to the people of Mycenae’s scorn over her sacrilegious actions, including the killing of their celebrated King.

Divinity (Rank: E-)

Despite Clytemnestra being born from human parents, her sister, the famous Helen of Troy, was said to have been fathered by Zeus, who appeared to her human mother in the form of a swan, seducing and impregnating her. Clytemnestra possesses a miniscule Rank of Divinity by being born from the same womb as Helen.

Hand Guided by Justice (Rank: A)

Clytemnestra’s personal Skill. It encompasses the unyielding belief that the self acts on a higher sense of justice, making all their actions “right” by default. Clytemnestra views herself not as a “petty woman” for her crimes, but as an instrument of that very justice. Servants possessing this Skill will always have a Lawful Neutral alignment, regardless of their actions. Makes it highly possible to completely resist charming, suggestion, temptation, mental corruption or alignment-altering magic.

Base Parameters:
Strength: E
Endurance: D
Agility: B
Magical Power: D
Good luck: B+
Noble Phantasm: B

Noble Phantasm 1

Name: Labrys, the Axe that Slew a King

Quote: N/A

Rank: C

Type: Anti-Unit

Range: 1

Description: A ceremonial, double-bitted axe used by Clytemnestra to slay her husband Agamemnon. According to Greek myth, it is actually the legendary axe of the Queen of Amazons, Hippolyta, and has been wielded by remarkable Heroes of the Age of Gods, including Heracles. Had it materialized as the Noble Phantasm of a stronger Servant, its Rank and relative power would have been a lot higher. However, Clytemnestra, who was never trained as a warrior, in addition to being summoned under the weaker Assassin Class, is unable to unlock its full potential.
One of the armaments Clytemnestra is summoned with as a Servant is her special veil, which she calls “Imatio Thanatou”, aka “the cloth of death”, the cloth net she used to entangle Agamemnon before killing him. Clytemnestra can combine that net with her Noble Phantasm to great effect, making up for her lack of raw power. For as long as the net entangles them, the target is unable to escape or resist their murderer, and their attempts to free themselves become more difficult, requiring Agility, or Luck check to escape properly.

Noble Phantasm 2

Name: Erinyes, the She-Dogs of Fury

Quote: "Hear the plight of I, Clytemnestra. I am my soul, which calls to you. Do what you are. Your work. She-Dogs of Fury! ERINYES!"

Rank: B++

Type: Anti-Unit

Range: -

Description: The Erinyes (also known as the Furies) are female chthonic deities of vengeance who tracked down egregiously impious wrongdoers with their hound’s noses and tormented them to death. They are Wraith-like Divine Spirits from the Age of Gods, with snakes for hair, dog's heads, coal-black bodies, bat's wings, and bloodshot eyes. In their hands they carry brass-studded scourges, and their victims die in torment.
Clytemnestra is able to invoke the Erinyes as a Noble Phantasm, much like she did in her myth. At that moment, her target will become "cursed". The Erinyes will gather all around them and assault them from the shadows, lashing at them with their scourges and tearing at their skin with their sharp talons. Their effectiveness and the amount of damage they can do is dependent on how geared towards Evil or the Chaotic their victim’s alignment is, or how much that person has committed deplorable crimes in life. The Noble Phantasm’s Rank receives boosts accordingly. To even activate this Noble Phantasm, Clytemnestra must first witness the target having committed a horrible crime (usually murder), or alternatively she needs to have definitive proof that the person has committed horrible crimes in the past (usually murder).
The Erinyes are independent Spirits possessing what equates to a Rank A of Presence Concealment, thus making it difficult to predict their attacks and guard against them. One can destroy them if their timing is good enough so as to strike them just as their Presence Concealment drops. However, their bodies will regenerate after a certain amount of time, at which point they'll immediately try to locate their victim and start tormenting them anew. Skills like Magic Resistance can lessen this curse's impact, provided their Rank is high enough. Having high defensive parameters, or possessing Skills that enhance endurance can also help lessen the damage and sustain oneself for a longer period of time than otherwise. However, if the curse is not lifted in an amount of time dependent on how capable the victim is of resisting it, they will ultimately die in agonizing pain and torment.
Once the Erinyes have found a victim to torment, they will never leave them in peace, even if Clytemnestra herself dies. For somebody to get freed completely from their curse, they would need to first pay penance for the crimes the Erinyes are accusing them of and make peace with themselves. Entering a place of holiness (such as a church) can also force the Erinyes to retreat temporarily.

I don't have a specific Master planned for her yet. I'm okay with contracting with another player's Master, but I can also make my own if nobody volunteers.

EDIT: As of 26/4, Skills and 2nd Noble Phantasm have been revamped.

[Cu Chulainn]

If anyone's interested in being a Master for my Rider (coming soon), I'm down, as I'd actually prefer to work with others rather than be my own Master, xD

[1Charak2]

Here's my custom Servant for this:

Assassin

Class Name: Assassin

Appearance

True Name

Clytemnestra

Nicknames: The Woman Who Slew a King

Alignment: Lawful Neutral

Servant of: N/A

Catalyst For Summon

Viable catalysts include Remains of the Trojan Horse (used for all Servants connected in any way to the Trojan War), Remains of Hippolyta's Axe, or The Mask of Agamemnon.

Weapon(s): Her axe (which is also one of her Noble Phantasms), a veil that she uses as a net.

Wish

Despite her vengeful nature, if Clytemnestra ever got the Holy Grail, her only wish would be to see her daughter Iphigenia again.

Class Skills:

Presence Concealment (Rank: B)

The capacity to hide one's presence as a Servant. Suitable for spying. It is possible to disappear and become extremely difficult to be detected. The Rank of Presence Concealment drops considerably when preparing to attack.

Oblivion Correction (Rank: B+)

Because of Clytemnestra’s feelings of resentment over her daughter Iphigenia’s sacrificing lasting for well over 10 years, she qualifies for summoning under the Avenger Class. In fact, her grudge is evidently so strong that even when summoned under the Assassin Class, she possesses the Oblivion Correction Skill, which is normally unique to Servants of the Avenger Class. After all, “an Avenger never forgets”. The damage value of critical attacks is higher than other Servants.

Personal Skills:

Charisma (Rank: D)

A composite Skill consisting of a person's charm as well as the natural talent to command or unify an army or country. Increases the ability of allies during group battles. Having been the Queen of Mycenae during her lifetime, Clytemnestra naturally possesses this Skill. However, its Rank is quite low due to the people of Mycenae’s scorn over her sacrilegious actions, including the killing of their celebrated King.

Divinity (Rank: E-)

Despite Clytemnestra being born from human parents, her sister, the famous Helen of Troy, was said to have been fathered by Zeus, who appeared to her human mother in the form of a swan, seducing and impregnating her. Clytemnestra possesses a miniscule Rank of Divinity by being born from the same womb as Helen.

Hand Guided by Justice (Rank: A)

Clytemnestra’s personal Skill. It encompasses the unyielding belief that the self acts on a higher sense of justice, making all their actions “right” by default. Clytemnestra views herself not as a “petty woman” for her crimes, but as an instrument of that very justice. Servants possessing this Skill will always have a Lawful Neutral alignment, regardless of their actions. Makes it highly possible to completely resist charming, suggestion, temptation, mental corruption or alignment-altering magic.

Base Parameters:
Strength: E
Endurance: D
Agility: B
Magical Power: D
Good luck: B+
Noble Phantasm: B

Noble Phantasm 1

Name: Labrys, the Axe that Slew a King

Quote: N/A

Rank: C

Type: Anti-Unit

Range: 1

Description: A ceremonial, double-bitted axe used by Clytemnestra to slay her husband Agamemnon. According to Greek myth, it is actually the legendary axe of the Queen of Amazons, Hippolyta, and has been wielded by remarkable Heroes of the Age of Gods, including Heracles. Had it materialized as the Noble Phantasm of a stronger Servant, its Rank and relative power would have been a lot higher. However, Clytemnestra, who was never trained as a warrior, in addition to being summoned under the weaker Assassin Class, is unable to unlock its full potential.
One of the armaments Clytemnestra is summoned with as a Servant is her special veil, which she calls “Imatio Thanatou”, aka “the cloth of death”, the cloth net she used to entangle Agamemnon before killing him. Clytemnestra can combine that net with her Noble Phantasm to great effect, making up for her lack of raw power. Trapped in the web, the target can neither escape nor resist their murderer.

Noble Phantasm 2

Name: Erinyes, the She-Dogs of Fury

Quote: "Hear the plight of I, Clytemnestra. I am my soul, which calls to you. Do what you are. Your work. She-Dogs of Fury! ERINYES!"

Rank: B++

Type: Anti-Mind

Range: -

Description: The Erinyes (also known as the Furies) are female chthonic deities of vengeance who tracked down egregiously impious wrongdoers with their hound’s noses and drove them to insanity. They are Wraith-like Divine Spirits from the Age of Gods, with snakes for hair, dog's heads, coal-black bodies, bat's wings, and bloodshot eyes.
Clytemnestra’s compatibility as a Heroic Spirit of Vengeance makes her suitable for invoking the Erinyes as a Noble Phantasm, much like she did in her myth. However, they are not used as a weapon in the traditional sense. Rather, they are treated as a powerful curse. Since their role is simply to torment and hound relentlessly, their victim’s death will usually come as a result of insanity leading to excessive self-harm and/or suicide. In addition, their effectiveness or ineffectiveness is dependent on how geared towards Evil or the Chaotic their victim’s alignment is, with the Noble Phantasm’s Rank receiving boosts accordingly.
After being called upon, the Erinyes will manifest inside the target’s own mind, hence this Noble Phantasm’s classification as “Anti-Mind”. Since they cannot be “seen” by anyone other than the person they’re tormenting, to an outsider it would appear as if that person is “going mad”. However, since the Erinyes and the torment their accusations can cause are still very real, this curse is in no way a form of mental interference Thaumaturgy, therefore Skills or abilities that would protect against such a thing will have no effect here.
Once the Erinyes have found a victim to torment, they will never leave them in peace, even if Clytemnestra herself dies. For somebody to get freed completely from their curse, they would need to first pay penance for the crimes the Erinyes are accusing them of and make peace with themselves. Entering a place of holiness (such as a church) can also force the Erinyes to retreat temporarily.

I don't have a specific Master planned for her yet. I'm okay with contracting with another player's Master, but I can also make my own if nobody volunteers.

@Kost Alter

The Erinyes are still anti-unit even if they are invisible and cannot be seen. They still exist and they still only affect one person. Hence why Kiyohimes is anti-unit even though she can attack numerous people. It only affects herself. Any abilty that affects the singular is anti-unit.

EDIT: Secondly how does this interact with madness enhancement which's sole purpose is to reduce mental disobedience and/or mental interference. Thirdly what if they are already insane and thus the furies add nothing or even remove anything. Fourthly how is it affected by magical resistance. As a curse it is still Magical. Otherwise its not a curse.

[Kost Alter]

If anyone's interested in being a Master for my Rider (coming soon), I'm down, as I'd actually prefer to work with others rather than be my own Master, xD

@Cu Chulainn

If you want, I can make a Master for your Rider,and maybe you can make a Master for my Assassin. Hooray for teamwork!

<Snipped quote by Kost Alter>

The Erinyes are still anti-unit even if they are invisible and cannot be seen. They still exist and they still only affect one person. Hence why Kiyohimes is anti-unit even though she can attack numerous people. It only affects herself. Any abilty that affects the singular is anti-unit.

EDIT: Secondly how does this interact with madness enhancement which's sole purpose is to reduce mental disobedience and/or mental interference. Thirdly what if they are already insane and thus the furies add nothing or even remove anything. Fourthly how is it affected by magical resistance. As a curse it is still Magical. Otherwise its not a curse.

@1Charak2

Hmmmm... I'll admit, the Anti-Mind part was mainly meant to make it sound "cooler", but I suppose I can just as easily change it to Anti-Unit if I must.

Fate has plenty of insane characters, yes, but I think there's a difference between "Mwahahahaha" insanity and "I wanna gouge my own eyes out" insanity. In the case of Mad Enhancement, it was suggested by the GM that a high enough Rank would make them mostly unaffected, since at that point they'd just be mindless machines.

As for Magical Resistance, I suppose a high enough Rank could lessen their influence. The GM has the final say in any of those points.

From a gameplay perspective, yes, there are probably various ways to defend, I just couldn't think of all of them. Seeing how we actually do have a Berserker among the cast (and with a high Rank of ME to boot), this could be relevant if they end up fighting in the RP, so you did well by bringing this up in the earliest stages.

EDIT: On second thought, the whole "madness" aspect of this Noble Phantasm seems to have caused a fair amount of confusion, and I don't want to cause any problems here. I think I'll try to revamp my Noble Phantasm and change how it works in a way that's less confusing than what I currently have. I just need @vancexentan to first say whether the rest of my Servant sheet is okay or not, so I know which parts I'll need to rewrite. Thank you in advance.

[1Charak2]

<Snipped quote by Cu Chulainn>

If you want, I can make a Master for your Rider,and maybe you can make a Master for my Assassin. Hooray for teamwork!

<Snipped quote by 1Charak2>

Hmmmm... I'll admit, the Anti-Mind part was mainly meant to make it sound "cooler", but I suppose I can just as easily change it to Anti-Unit if I must.

Fate has plenty of insane characters, yes, but I think there's a difference between "Mwahahahaha" insanity and "I wanna gouge my own eyes out" insanity. In the case of Mad Enhancement, it was suggested by the GM that a high enough Rank would make them mostly unaffected, since at that point they'd just be mindless machines.

As for Magical Resistance, I suppose a high enough Rank could lessen their influence. The GM has the final say in any of those points.

From a gameplay perspective, yes, there are probably various ways to defend, I just couldn't think of all of them. Seeing how we actually do have a Berserker among the cast (and with a high Rank of ME to boot), this could be relevant if they end up fighting in the RP, so you did well by bringing this up in the earliest stages.

EDIT: On second thought, the whole "madness" aspect of this Noble Phantasm seems to have caused a fair amount of confusion, and I don't want to cause any problems here. I think I'll try to revamp my Noble Phantasm and change how it works in a way that's less confusing than what I currently have. I just need @vancexentan to first say whether the rest of my Servant sheet is okay or not, so I know which parts I'll need to rewrite. Thank you in advance.

@Kost Alter

The reason why I asked is because Kiyohime even with EX madness enhancement is not a mindless machine So I thought it was necessary to ask.

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In regards to anyone else I can put my hand forward as a Master if necessary.

[vancexentan]

@Kost AlterThe first noble phantasm is fine however Oblivion Correction is a class skill of the avenger class and thus is unavailable to you. Unlike say Magical Resistance it has more to do with the inner nature of an avenger.

You may tell me when you're done making your other phantasm.

[Kost Alter]

The first noble phantasm is fine however Oblivion Correction is a class skill of the avenger class and thus is unavailable to you. Unlike say Magical Resistance it has more to do with the inner nature of an avenger.

You may tell me when you're done making your other phantasm.

@vancexentan

I did give justification of why she has it without being an Avenger. In addition, canon servants have had skills unique to other classes before, like Saber Gilles having Mad Enhancement, or Elizabeth Bathory having Territory Creation. However, if it's an issue, I can either replace it with something else or remove it altogether.

As for my second Noble Phantasm, I have edited it to remove the confusing "insanity" aspect completely. Now it's more raw power, which will make it much easier to regulate, imo

revised Noble Phantasm

Name: Erinyes, the She-Dogs of Fury

Quote: "Hear the plight of I, Clytemnestra. I am my soul, which calls to you. Do what you are. Your work. She-Dogs of Fury! ERINYES!"

Rank: B++

Type: Anti-Unit

Range: -

Description: The Erinyes (also known as the Furies) are female chthonic deities of vengeance who tracked down egregiously impious wrongdoers with their hound’s noses and tormented them to death. They are Wraith-like Divine Spirits from the Age of Gods, with snakes for hair, dog's heads, coal-black bodies, bat's wings, and bloodshot eyes. In their hands they carry brass-studded scourges, and their victims die in torment.
Clytemnestra’s compatibility as a Heroic Spirit of Vengeance makes her suitable for invoking the Erinyes as a Noble Phantasm, much like she did in her myth. At that moment, her target will become "cursed". The Erinyes will gather all around them and assualt them from the shadows, lashing at them with their scourges and tearing at their skin with their sharp talons. Their effectiveness and the amount of damage they can do is dependent on how geared towards Evil or the Chaotic their victim’s alignment is, or how much that person has committed deplorable crimes in life. The Noble Phantasm’s Rank receives boosts accordingly.
The Erinyes are independent Spirits possessing what equates to a Rank EX of Presence Concealment, thus making it very difficult to predict their attacks and guard against them. Skills like Magic Resistance can lessen this curse's impact, provided their Rank is high enough. Having high defensive parameters, or possessing Skills that enhance endurance can also help lessen the damage and sustain oneself for a longer period of time than otherwise. However, if the curse is not lifted in an amount of time dependent on how capable the victim is of resiting it, they will ultimately die in agonizing pain and torment.
Once the Erinyes have found a victim to torment, they will never leave them in peace, even if Clytemnestra herself dies. For somebody to get freed completely from their curse, they would need to first pay penance for the crimes the Erinyes are accusing them of and make peace with themselves. Entering a place of holiness (such as a church) can also force the Erinyes to retreat temporarily.

old version (for comparison)

Name: Erinyes, the She-Dogs of Fury

Quote: "Hear the plight of I, Clytemnestra. I am my soul, which calls to you. Do what you are. Your work. She-Dogs of Fury! ERINYES!"

Rank: B++

Type: Anti-Mind

Range: -

Description: The Erinyes (also known as the Furies) are female chthonic deities of vengeance who tracked down egregiously impious wrongdoers with their hound’s noses and drove them to insanity. They are Wraith-like Divine Spirits from the Age of Gods, with snakes for hair, dog's heads, coal-black bodies, bat's wings, and bloodshot eyes.
Clytemnestra’s compatibility as a Heroic Spirit of Vengeance makes her suitable for invoking the Erinyes as a Noble Phantasm, much like she did in her myth. However, they are not used as a weapon in the traditional sense. Rather, they are treated as a powerful curse. Since their role is simply to torment and hound relentlessly, their victim’s death will usually come as a result of insanity leading to excessive self-harm and/or suicide. In addition, their effectiveness or ineffectiveness is dependent on how geared towards Evil or the Chaotic their victim’s alignment is, with the Noble Phantasm’s Rank receiving boosts accordingly.
After being called upon, the Erinyes will manifest inside the target’s own mind, hence this Noble Phantasm’s classification as “Anti-Mind”. Since they cannot be “seen” by anyone other than the person they’re tormenting, to an outsider it would appear as if that person is “going mad”. However, since the Erinyes and the torment their accusations can cause are still very real, this curse is in no way a form of mental interference Thaumaturgy, therefore Skills or abilities that would protect against such a thing will have no effect here.
Once the Erinyes have found a victim to torment, they will never leave them in peace, even if Clytemnestra herself dies. For somebody to get freed completely from their curse, they would need to first pay penance for the crimes the Erinyes are accusing them of and make peace with themselves. Entering a place of holiness (such as a church) can also force the Erinyes to retreat temporarily.

[vancexentan]

@Kost AlterAvenger is an extra class though. It has unique abilities that only it has oblivion correction being one of them. Fitting, or not it is a skill for a class that is normally not even able to be summoned. It would believe it should be replaced in my own opinion.

I believe rank EX is presence concealment is rather high it is literally unquantifiable. As such it should be lowered in my opinion unless someone else believes that it should be that way. Likewise if they're doing physical damage to servants they should be able to be killed and thus dissipated in some sort of fashion. I have to keep in mind the enemy servants or possibly the masters are being hassled by these things while they're away from assassin.

[1Charak2]

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I did give justification of why she has it without being an Avenger. In addition, canon servants have had skills unique to other classes before, like Saber Gilles having Mad Enhancement, or Elizabeth Bathory having Territory Creation. However, if it's an issue, I can either replace it with something else or remove it altogether.

As for my second Noble Phantasm, I have edited it to remove the confusing "insanity" aspect completely. Now it's more raw power, which will make it much easier to regulate, imo

revised Noble Phantasm

Name: Erinyes, the She-Dogs of Fury

Quote: "Hear the plight of I, Clytemnestra. I am my soul, which calls to you. Do what you are. Your work. She-Dogs of Fury! ERINYES!"

Rank: B++

Type: Anti-Unit

Range: -

Description: The Erinyes (also known as the Furies) are female chthonic deities of vengeance who tracked down egregiously impious wrongdoers with their hound’s noses and tormented them to death. They are Wraith-like Divine Spirits from the Age of Gods, with snakes for hair, dog's heads, coal-black bodies, bat's wings, and bloodshot eyes. In their hands they carry brass-studded scourges, and their victims die in torment.
Clytemnestra’s compatibility as a Heroic Spirit of Vengeance makes her suitable for invoking the Erinyes as a Noble Phantasm, much like she did in her myth. At that moment, her target will become "cursed". The Erinyes will gather all around them and assualt them from the shadows, lashing at them with their scourges and tearing at their skin with their sharp talons. Their effectiveness and the amount of damage they can do is dependent on how geared towards Evil or the Chaotic their victim’s alignment is, or how much that person has committed deplorable crimes in life. The Noble Phantasm’s Rank receives boosts accordingly.
The Erinyes are independent Spirits possessing what equates to a Rank EX of Presence Concealment, thus making it very difficult to predict their attacks and guard against them. Skills like Magic Resistance can lessen this curse's impact, provided their Rank is high enough. Having high defensive parameters, or possessing Skills that enhance endurance can also help lessen the damage and sustain oneself for a longer period of time than otherwise. However, if the curse is not lifted in an amount of time dependent on how capable the victim is of resiting it, they will ultimately die in agonizing pain and torment.
Once the Erinyes have found a victim to torment, they will never leave them in peace, even if Clytemnestra herself dies. For somebody to get freed completely from their curse, they would need to first pay penance for the crimes the Erinyes are accusing them of and make peace with themselves. Entering a place of holiness (such as a church) can also force the Erinyes to retreat temporarily.

old version (for comparison)

Name: Erinyes, the She-Dogs of Fury

Quote: "Hear the plight of I, Clytemnestra. I am my soul, which calls to you. Do what you are. Your work. She-Dogs of Fury! ERINYES!"

Rank: B++

Type: Anti-Mind

Range: -

Description: The Erinyes (also known as the Furies) are female chthonic deities of vengeance who tracked down egregiously impious wrongdoers with their hound’s noses and drove them to insanity. They are Wraith-like Divine Spirits from the Age of Gods, with snakes for hair, dog's heads, coal-black bodies, bat's wings, and bloodshot eyes.
Clytemnestra’s compatibility as a Heroic Spirit of Vengeance makes her suitable for invoking the Erinyes as a Noble Phantasm, much like she did in her myth. However, they are not used as a weapon in the traditional sense. Rather, they are treated as a powerful curse. Since their role is simply to torment and hound relentlessly, their victim’s death will usually come as a result of insanity leading to excessive self-harm and/or suicide. In addition, their effectiveness or ineffectiveness is dependent on how geared towards Evil or the Chaotic their victim’s alignment is, with the Noble Phantasm’s Rank receiving boosts accordingly.
After being called upon, the Erinyes will manifest inside the target’s own mind, hence this Noble Phantasm’s classification as “Anti-Mind”. Since they cannot be “seen” by anyone other than the person they’re tormenting, to an outsider it would appear as if that person is “going mad”. However, since the Erinyes and the torment their accusations can cause are still very real, this curse is in no way a form of mental interference Thaumaturgy, therefore Skills or abilities that would protect against such a thing will have no effect here.
Once the Erinyes have found a victim to torment, they will never leave them in peace, even if Clytemnestra herself dies. For somebody to get freed completely from their curse, they would need to first pay penance for the crimes the Erinyes are accusing them of and make peace with themselves. Entering a place of holiness (such as a church) can also force the Erinyes to retreat temporarily.

@Kost Alter

If they are doing damage it is impossible for presence concealment to be EX as that involves becoming one with the world itself. And attacking removes presence concealment. Furtherly if they are doing solid damage then they should be killable. Thirdly invoking the Erinyes should be more complex then a simple chant. In Erinyes need a conviction to be set on someone after all. The cursed must first be seen as wicked. Perhaps add a limit that she must observe them comitting murder (links to the erinyes being personifications of the murdered) which isn't hard if she stays concealed. Then the curse can be invoked. As it is a curse that can even outlast the inflictors life.

[Kost Alter]

All the above taken into account. I've lowered the rank and made the furies killable with a regeneration clause (not nearly as broken as the demons summoned by Prelati's Spellbook). Made it more complex to activate.

2nd revision

Name: Erinyes, the She-Dogs of Fury

Quote: "Hear the plight of I, Clytemnestra. I am my soul, which calls to you. Do what you are. Your work. She-Dogs of Fury! ERINYES!"

Rank: B++

Type: Anti-Unit

Range: -

Description: The Erinyes (also known as the Furies) are female chthonic deities of vengeance who tracked down egregiously impious wrongdoers with their hound’s noses and tormented them to death. They are Wraith-like Divine Spirits from the Age of Gods, with snakes for hair, dog's heads, coal-black bodies, bat's wings, and bloodshot eyes. In their hands they carry brass-studded scourges, and their victims die in torment.
Clytemnestra’s compatibility as a Heroic Spirit of Vengeance makes her suitable for invoking the Erinyes as a Noble Phantasm, much like she did in her myth. At that moment, her target will become "cursed". The Erinyes will gather all around them and assualt them from the shadows, lashing at them with their scourges and tearing at their skin with their sharp talons. Their effectiveness and the amount of damage they can do is dependent on how geared towards Evil or the Chaotic their victim’s alignment is, or how much that person has committed deplorable crimes in life. The Noble Phantasm’s Rank receives boosts accordingly. To even activate this Noble Phantasm, Clytemnestra must first witness the target having committed a horrible crime (usually murder), or alternatively she needs to have definitive proof that the person has committed horrible crimes in the past (usually murder).
The Erinyes are independent Spirits possessing what equates to a Rank A of Presence Concealment, thus making it difficult to predict their attacks and guard against them. One can destroy them if their timing is good enough so as to strike them just as their Presence Concealment drops. However, their bodies will regenerate after a certain amount of time, at which point they'll immediately try to locate their victim and start tormenting them anew. Skills like Magic Resistance can lessen this curse's impact, provided their Rank is high enough. Having high defensive parameters, or possessing Skills that enhance endurance can also help lessen the damage and sustain oneself for a longer period of time than otherwise. However, if the curse is not lifted in an amount of time dependent on how capable the victim is of resiting it, they will ultimately die in agonizing pain and torment.
Once the Erinyes have found a victim to torment, they will never leave them in peace, even if Clytemnestra herself dies. For somebody to get freed completely from their curse, they would need to first pay penance for the crimes the Erinyes are accusing them of and make peace with themselves. Entering a place of holiness (such as a church) can also force the Erinyes to retreat temporarily.

@vancexentan

[vancexentan]

Alright I can work with that somewhat. If need to I can dabble in holy magic, and in some cases this won't work entirely. For Jeanne example. She literally breathes good nature.

[Kost Alter]

Alright I can work with that somewhat. If need to I can dabble in holy magic, and in some cases this won't work entirely. For Jeanne example. She literally breathes good nature.

@vancexentan

Yeah, it's probably not gonna work on Jeanne, like... at all. She's a good girl!

On the subject of replacing Oblivion Correction with a more suitable skill, would a Rank A of Independent Action be reasonable, or is it too high?

[vancexentan]

@Kost Alterindependent action on a non archer in my opinion is already a big deal if you want it I'd tone it down to C at most. You're trying to take skills from other classes which is generally a big no.

[1Charak2]

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Yeah, it's probably not gonna work on Jeanne, like... at all. She's a good girl!

On the subject of replacing Oblivion Correction with a more suitable skill, would a Rank A of Independent Action be reasonable, or is it too high?

@Kost Alter

Rank A is pretty high. That is the equivalent of lasting a week without a master. She could probably have rank B: Two days if mana is conserved.

[1Charak2]

@Kost Alterindependent action on a non archer in my opinion is already a big deal if you want it I'd tone it down to C at most. You're trying to take skills from other classes which is generally a big no.

@vancexentan

Also, Independent Action is present in assassins as well as archers. Even at Rank A.

[vancexentan]

@1Charak2Alright then that is my mistake. Assassin is a class that's been hardly used at all in my roleplays so far as such they haven't come up much in my research.

[Kost Alter]

Alright, Rank B is good enough for me. With that, I've edited my original submission with all changes.
@vancexentan