[OOC] Civilization Roleplay: Rise of Races (The Tribes of Nova Mondial Want You!)

[Double Capybara]

Slowly munching trough the IC and this is so fascinating, this RP is open to join right? I don't mind the tech disadvantage.

[Joegreenbeen]

I believe so.

[Aweirdgamer]

Regarding the time system idea, after reading the new messages and thinking it over, I do see how that it could make a greater imbalance favoring those who post more frequently. If it is done, perhaps something could be added to make the developments faster for others? For example, instead of technological advance by posts, it would be by post and page regardless of author. This could upset planned stories for some, though. Does anyone have any ideas to make that work?

At the moment, I don't think a precise time system would work for everyone right now. In the future, closer to Modern Times, it probably would work, though. I think we should play it by ear when that time is, but I don't think now is the time if we can't think of a way to make it more balanced for the less able to post.

Slowly munching trough the IC and this is so fascinating, this RP is open to join right? I don't mind the tech disadvantage.

@Double Capybara

As far as I know, we're still open.

[Meiyuuhi]

@Aweirdgamer: The tech advance by post system works because it encourages people to be active. You post less frequently, you advance slower. Those with the greatest amount invested in the RP's story naturally become those who most influence its events. I'm very flexible on how you guys choose to approach time, but my position on tech is immutable, even though it's hurting me pretty badly at the moment.

I feel like an organized time system will work once we approach medieval-ish technology.

I'm thinking I'm going to cap it at 20 people, so yes, we're open.

[Veoline]

I might be obtuse, but can someone seriously explain to me how the system would favor frequent posters? I really don't get it.

[Father Dagon]

I might be obtuse, but can someone seriously explain to me how the system would favor frequent posters? I really don't get it.

@Veoline

Well, if you have seen, people normally have their technology at the beginning of their introduction, such as:

example nation, example age and such
Technology (1/8)

Every post advances one point, so someone who posts frequently will advance in the scientific field faster.

[MangoJuice]

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Well, if you have seen, people normally have their technology at the beginning of their introduction, such as:

example nation, example age and such
Technology (1/8)

Every post advances one point, so someone who posts frequently will advance in the scientific field faster.

@Father Dagon

I rise from my grave to comment on this

This system has been in place with the same issue for ages now and I don't see how implementing a new time system would make it worse or better

[Double Capybara]

Well, here is my application.

Name of Race: Ukalli
Pic/Description
(I'm having a bit of trouble with my go-to character maker. Once I fix it I will make one, for now just description)
This androgynous specie stands at 1,40 to 1,65m when adult. This species overall appearance really alludes to an Amber "Stone", the "child" of this species is only composed of a sap-like substance and has trouble standing up or maneuvering objects. When they transform into adults their body gets an outward layer composed of the crystallized version o that substance, this takes away their goo-ish appearance and clumsy movements.

The species is partially see trough, becoming more solid if they are dehydrated. Its eyes are pupil-less and usually very round. It has no nose or ears but it does have a mouth. It has something that looks like hair on its head but in truth its something like human fat and acts as an emergency food, its placement is strategic since it keeps its core nervous system on its head.

Its colors are usually blue, orange and magenta, having the eyes and "hair" being of stronger colors. Trough the body you can usually see little sparkling crystals, specially at night, and after a meal its common for this species to actually emit a faint light trough some glands of its body, this is a way it found to eliminate impurities when away from water-sources (It only prolongs the necessary bath though).

Racial Characteristics:

The first thing one would probably notice when they meet a Ukalli (outside of the transparency) is that they are mute. This species developed nothing similar to vocal cords. This is probably the main reason why they are still on a hunter-gatherer lifestyle when other species are more developed, as communication used to be very hard (More on that in the bio)

Its skin might sound impressive when you compare it to the stone-like amber, but in truth its only a bit harder than the average skin and by no means as strong as leather. The real advantage is that due to their nature they can restore limbs, that is why the hair exists, a finger usually reforms in a week, a hand takes a month and further time resting to fully restore, an arm usually will be trouble for half a year. A beheading is most of the times fatal, the shock alone kills the nervous system, but, if by luck it survives unharmed its actually possible for the Ukalli to restore its body, quite easily if the enemy was foolish enough to leave the head close to the original body, when that is not the case the recovery is something that takes years and will either need the Ukalli to be very cunning or for a fellow tribefolk to find it.

Its vision is specialized for the night and will be ineffective on day, that doesn't mean they can see clearly on dark caves for example

Now that probably raise the question about their death. First and foremost, slashing in half and beheading is usually a good kill, just make sure to smash the head. Backstabbing is usually a bad idea unless you are stabbing the back of the head. About age, a "child" usually lives up to 26 years if it does not transform into an adult, the adult life expectancy depends on how good is its union (formed when two "childs" unit to become one adult, a lot on that later) a bad one results in a 10-20 extra time for the adult, a good one up to 40-50... Then there is the perfect unions, giving up to 70 extra years. The death happens because the neural system gets too damaged to function.

Finally, reproduction and "infancy". Long ago in its bio-history the Ukalli used to ingest chalk, salt and clay to create the layer they needed to move better, that however directly attacked its nervous system killing it soon, however a mutation happened and took the bonds of male and female a bit deeper. "Childs" (By no means infants, but the analogy works) are male and female, in the long past they used to reproduce like many other species, then however came the specialization, where the partners unite, literally, with one becoming the exterior layer and giving the other the chance to focus more on its metabolism and mental capability, thus why the species is androgynous.

Race Bio:

Living in wildest corner of the southern jungle the Ukalli live a nomadic life, their eyes are sensible to the sun so they prefer to avoid the midday, they have not developed shelter yet so they live inside the large tree hallows of the jungle. The bad unions and the Childs usually only stay on the jungle, collecting berries, herbs, insects, roots and vines for the tribe. The more apt go to the west and hunt on the plains, taking advantage of the darkness of the night.

For a long time each Ukalli lived alone, due to the union and the lack of communication they felt socially complete and saw no sense in uniting. The real reason why tribes started to show was the large preys found in the west, and the united tribe was the very recent act of a single perfectly united person (Ukallis have yet to develop names, for now I call it "Leader") its tribe had developed a signal language system pretty recently and that helped it to round up the other groups

Since an Adult Ukalli can produce something close to a child each two years completely alone when it is properly feed one would think their numbers would be high, but it isn't the case, Unions are scary for most of them, the idea of uniting minds is already uncanny but there is also a lot of prejudice over the one who becomes the external part of the body, as usually the adult figure will look more like the one who is inside, most chiefs outright forbid their childs from uniting as the "outer".

Location on Map:

Alas, I had put it in magenta but when you look away it looks red, so more pink in it I guess?

Techs: Right now they are very primitive, only having the basic use of stones.
On the other side they already have a form of proto-writing, symbols they carve on barks to show the others what activities must be done on the day, with enough time this should gradually evolve into a ideogram language. A really, long time.

[Veoline]

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I rise from my grave to comment on this

This system has been in place with the same issue for ages now and I don't see how implementing a new time system would make it worse or better

@MangoJuice

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Well, if you have seen, people normally have their technology at the beginning of their introduction, such as:

example nation, example age and such
Technology (1/8)

Every post advances one point, so someone who posts frequently will advance in the scientific field faster.

@Father Dagon

I agree with Mango. The system I proposed wouldn't change the fact that frequent posters advance faster. All it would do would be providing a time frame for the events of the Rp, and that's pretty much it.

As I said previously, it is permissible not to detail the progress made towards a technology in every single post, especially when the technology requires many posts to be obtained.

[Meiyuuhi]

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I agree with Mango. The system I proposed wouldn't change the fact that frequent posters advance faster. All it would do would be providing a time frame for the events of the Rp, and that's pretty much it.

As I said previously, it is permissible not to detail the progress made towards a technology in every single post, especially when the technology requires many posts to be obtained.

@Veoline

#nevergiveupneversurrender

@Double Capybara

Your sheet looks good, you can go ahead and post.

[Raindeer]

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#nevergiveupneversurrender

@Mihndar

+1
#nevergiveupneversurrender

[Veoline]

#nevergiveupneversurrender

@Mihndar

This is not a democracy, dude. I will get my way...someday.

[Raindeer]

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This is not a democracy, dude. I will get my way...someday.

@Veoline

Good idea telling that to the GM. :3

[Veoline]

Haha, Mihndar has always been a committed democrat, isn't it? ;)

[Meiyuuhi]

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This is not a democracy, dude. I will get my way...someday.

@Veoline

See, the thing is when I don't want to make a decision I defer it to a higher authority.

The only higher authority is Aweirdgamer.

Which basically makes it a democracy.

A democracy in which you appear to have lost, dear fellow.

[Father Dagon]

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I agree with Mango. The system I proposed wouldn't change the fact that frequent posters advance faster. All it would do would be providing a time frame for the events of the Rp, and that's pretty much it.

As I said previously, it is permissible not to detail the progress made towards a technology in every single post, especially when the technology requires many posts to be obtained.

@Veoline

When I was agreeing with the time system, it was for that time-framing assistance, not technology. I was just explaining that angle to Veoline.

[Neruu]

Well part of history is not knowing exact dates of certain events that are so far back to not be recorded. A time keeping system I think should be more IC than OOC. Races that engage in regular interaction such as trade adopt similar time keeping systems to better coordinate trade, something like that happening. Look forward to IC in future that could involve various races that develop historians trying to align events in timelines.

[Aweirdgamer]

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+1
#nevergiveupneversurrender

@Raindeer

GalaxyQuest, you say?

@Double Capybara
Interesting race details. As Mihndar said, you may post now.

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See, the thing is when I don't want to make a decision I defer it to a higher authority.

The only higher authority is Aweirdgamer.

Which basically makes it a democracy.

A democracy in which you appear to have lost, dear fellow.

@Mihndar

It feels odd to read this, yet the logic holds.

Also, even with the original Civ RP, I don't think there was a timeline followed very strictly.

Well part of history is not knowing exact dates of certain events that are so far back to not be recorded. A time keeping system I think should be more IC than OOC. Races that engage in regular interaction such as trade adopt similar time keeping systems to better coordinate trade, something like that happening. Look forward to IC in future that could involve various races that develop historians trying to align events in timelines.

@Neruu

I remember there was a story about this in the original Civ RP. It began somewhere around this page: forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/1350.. . I don't remember much of the details but parts included a mystery of the history not resolved even IC.

[Meiyuuhi]

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GalaxyQuest, you say?

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It feels odd to read this, yet the logic holds.

Also, even with the original Civ RP, I don't think there was a timeline followed very strictly.

@Aweirdgamer

Indeed. One of my favorite movies.

Well, to be fair, I don't remember the last time you took a very strong position on anything. Not that that's a bad thing. If there were more people like you in the world we might all get along for a change

[Aweirdgamer]

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Indeed. One of my favorite movies.

Well, to be fair, I don't remember the last time you took a very strong position on anything. Not that that's a bad thing. If there were more people like you in the world we might all get along for a change

@Mihndar

On GalaxyQuest, same here.

On strong views, I can't think of the last time I held that strongly of a view (within Civ RP at least). I do have some strong views, and one of those is to be careful about enforcing a strong view on others. Thanks for the compliment.