[OOC] The Sun Will Never Set (A Statisticless NRP)(It had a good run)

[Cyclone]

Cavalry was surprisingly commonplace in WWII and it saw a big spike in usage during and after the Napoleonic Era. Granted, I don't mean cavley with lanches and knights' armor, but rather just the use of horses instead of vehicles in rough terrain. I actually plan for part of Tin's army will be traditional cavalry, seeing as Tin is somewhat...backwards.

[Willy Vereb]

Cavalry was surprisingly commonplace in WWII and it saw a big spike in usage during and after the Napoleonic Era. Granted, I don't mean cavley with lanches and knights' armor, but rather just the use of horses instead of vehicles in rough terrain. I actually plan for part of Tin's army will be traditional cavalry, seeing as Tin is somewhat...backwards.

@Cyclone

I didn't say cavalry had no place in the world wars. They offered cheap transport for troops to be deployed on the field. Same with the various bycicle units.
The thing is just that some people were not aware of the changing times and attempted to rush down armored vehicles with cavalry carrying rifle, sabers and bayonets.
Given that in this setting something like WW1 never happened I bet most nations have yet to figure out the true potentials of the modern weaponry. Yllendthyr is likely one of them.

[Sven the Silent]

<Snipped quote by Cyclone>Griffins in the age of airplanes isn't any more odd than cavalry being used in both WW1 and WW2.
We even have these cavalry on rare (stupid) occasions attempting to charge at tanks. With the expected effect.
I can see some chivalry-obsessed cavalry reader attempting to outdo Messerschmitts in a dogfight.
Imagine "flying horsemen" armed with rifles and maybe submachineguns trying to shoot down fighters that fly twice as fast as them.

@Willy Vereb

I taste a vague hint at the Polish in your mention of charging tanks, I mind you that such information isn't very accuarate. Much like the infamous reputation the French have for being cowards. But I can't deny that it never happened. :) Anyway, elves and griffens but the rest of the world is normal. Then that seemsa bit out of place right?

[Willy Vereb]

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I taste a vague hint at the Polish in your mention of charging tanks, I mind you that such information isn't very accuarate. Much like the infamous reputation the French have for being cowards. But I can't deny that it never happened. :) Anyway, elves and griffens but the rest of the world is normal. Then that seemsa bit out of place right?

@Sven the Silent

Kinda but it's the same as when I came to the realization that based on my location compared to others my nation became India.
Further cemented by the fact that nations towards the east to me are basically China, Korea and Japan.
This is explicitly a fantasy setting. While magic and extremities are better to be avoided, we discussed the use of various fantasy races and unique materials before.
It isn't my fault that all the other nation apps posted in the characters page use only humans so far.

[Sven the Silent]

<Snipped quote by Sven the Silent>Kinda but it's the same as when I came to the realization that based on my location compared to others my nation became India.
Further cemented by the fact that nations towards the east to me are basically China, Korea and Japan.
This is explicitly a fantasy setting. While magic and extremities are better to be avoided, we discussed the use of various fantasy races and unique materials.
It isn't my faults that all the other nation apps posted in the characters page use only humans so far.

@Willy Vereb

I saw mention of the need of an USSR type of country, I was already looking to portray Communist Russia or atleast a Communist country. So to create a Communist nation here wouldn't be a problem. It's a bit troubeling to look through everyone's individual claims and try to form an accurate image of what is taken. So an updated map with all the claims would be lovely.

[Raijinslayer]

Looking through what I have in my head, my nation seems like it going to turn into a Nazi Germany type thing, at least as far as the ultra-nationalism vibe I'm getting from it. Going to add some races to it as well

[ClocktowerEchos]

Looking through what I have in my head, my nation seems like it going to turn into a Nazi Germany type thing, at least as far as the ultra-nationalism vibe I'm getting from it. Going to add some races to it as well

@Raijinslayer

I think @Alfhedil claimed an ultra jingoistic German-like state though. Its basically Nazi Germany without the Nazism and genocide.

[Alfhedil]

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I think @Alfhedil claimed an ultra jingoistic German-like state though. Its basically Nazi Germany without the Nazism and genocide.

@ClocktowerEchos

It's somewhat Nazism, but yes, pretty much on par. I'm working on fixing tags and such and I'll have a rudimentary NS up here shortly.

[Raijinslayer]

@ClocktowerEchosWell shit . . . .mine might still work but I should probably scrap the icea and go with something else then.

[Cyclone]

Suprisingly it seems like almost everybody is going with some sort of fascism or autocracy. Only one Republic.

I thought that my nation would be the odd one out, as a Conservative-extremist government and one of the last remaining absolute monarchies.

[Willy Vereb]

Suprisingly it seems like almost everybody is going with some sort of fascism or autocracy. Only one Republic.

I thought that my nation would be the odd one out, as a Conservative-extremist government and one of the last remaining absolute monarchies.

@Cyclone

Mine is pretty close to a republic. One push and the emperor is reduced into a figurehead. He has right to technically veto almost any law forming in the parliament yet this tool is almost never used, for example.

[Willy Vereb]

@AlfhedilUm, acccording to this source, WW2 soldiers were already carrying some 40 kilos of equipment and gear. As incredulous as it initially sounds.
Tripling it won't be possible, neither it makes sense.
An armor which doesn't cover mot of the limbs or such but 5mm thick would weigh around 25 kilos.
So at best you're raising their load to 65 kilos (which is of course pretty ridiculously lot),

[Cyclone]

@Alfhedil

Also, that's an absurdly large army for a nation of that size. I think Voltus said the rule was only around 6% of the population could be in the military, but even that is pretty ridiculous in my opinion. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many examples of standing armies comprising more than 3% of the population.

[Alfhedil]

@AlfhedilUm, acccording to this source, WW2 soldiers were already carrying some 40 kilos of equipment and gear.
Tripling it won't be possible, neither it makes sense.
An armor which doesn't cover mot of the limbs or such but 5mm thick would weigh around 25 kilos.
So at best you're raising their load to 65 kilos (which is of course pretty ridiculously lot),

@Willy Vereb

While that's interesting and a cool source and all, the average WW2 soldier also marched in their equipment. The Stahl-Männer do not march, instead utilizing APCs to get to the combat zone they are needed in. So while the kit is heavier than the standard kit, the troopers are not nearly as strained as you make it out to be. In fairness, I may have been over-zealous in terms of weight.

Then again, this is a setting where elves ride griffins into battle. -shrugs-

@Alfhedil

Also, that's an absurdly large army for a nation of that size. I think Voltus said the rule was only around 6% of the population could be in the military, but even that is pretty ridiculous in my opinion. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many examples of standing armies comprising more than 3% of the population.

@Cyclone

It's a nation where service in the military is required, by law, though more so encouraged by the militant police. Of course their military is not going to be on the same level as another nation with a standing army. One must also take into consideration the intense paranoia they have in regards to their neighbors.

[Willy Vereb]

Then again, this is a setting where elves ride griffins into battle. -shrugs-

@Alfhedil

Elves ride Griffins into battle while equipped with rifles and SMGs.
Also while it's certainly fantastical I took pains to portray them in a serious light with all the realistic issues such unit could have.
Using them to backhandedly justify your own forces is just plain uncalled for.

That being said, I have no issue with your military but I'm getting enough of people referring griffins and elves as something of an outlier.
This is a fantasy NRPG set in 1940.

[Alfhedil]

<Snipped quote by Alfhedil> Elves ride Griffins into battle while equipped with rifles and SMGs.
Also while it's certainly fantastical I took pains to portray them in a serious light with all the realistic issues such unit could have.
Using them to backhandedly justify your own forces is just plain uncalled for.

That being said, I have no issue with your military but I'm getting enough of people referring griffins and elves as something of an outlier.
This is a fantasy NRPG set in 1940.

@Willy Vereb

Looking back, that was more than a little unfair, I apologize. I just get more than a little weary of joining into an NRP, only for people to become too concerned with what someone else has over the principle of forging a narrative. That however, is no excuse for doing the same to another player.

[Cyclone]

@Willy Vereb

Well, you kind of are the outlier, being the only example and so on. Personally I'm going to try to avoid fantasy stuff as I go through this, but seeing as I did join knowing that there would be fantasy elements I'm not going to try to discourage anybody else from having that sort of thing.

[Voltus_Ventus]

@Cyclone

Suprisingly it seems like almost everybody is going with some sort of fascism or autocracy. Only one Republic.

I thought that my nation would be the odd one out, as a Conservative-extremist government and one of the last remaining absolute monarchies.

@Cyclone

BTdubs actually in Ventium people choose their king... But he holds all executive, legal, judicial, military, social and religious power... He takes suggestions though and I see a reform or to coming soon.

Also guys, though I appreciate that you are critiquing Alfheil's NS, that's kinda my role. Also sorry, I was asleep.

[Voltus_Ventus]

@Alfhedil I like the NS, nothing much for me to say, just make sure you ain't too much of a beast :D

Your Ironcore power generation is cool and all but you may want to push it back even further to an experimental stage. And your nation seems to use a lot of iron and steel, how about importing some low grade iron and steel to convert to high grade?

[Raijinslayer]

@Voltus_VentusI'm working on a skeleton for what I have in mind, but I think I'm going to need some major help in making it actually viable because this is my first time trying a NRP and I'm feeling kinda overwhelmed trying to make the Nation, which I've redone into the Unified Kingdoms of Umbraisis. Can I PM you what very little I have and have you help me out from there?