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@thewizardguy That's probably it.

She doesn't have a huge speed feat. At least not displayed. Mostly because she'd just teleport behind people or just bend reality to just have a block super hard Naruto ice form around them instantly. So yeah it's hard to precisely gauge her.
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Personally I put her somewhere around Mach 50, but I only have limited knowledge on Naruto.

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All Sidious has is a statement that he's the most powerful. But Vitiate, by feats, annihilates him.

Sidious drained a planet over an extended period of time. Sidious instantly life-wiped an entire planet, including dozens of Jedi Masters and incredibly powerful Sith. He mind-controlled an entire planet's population at once, and unlike with Sidious, he does it instantly, and then makes the planet's population start killing one another. And he also mind controlled 8000 Sith at once, and performed another planet-wide lifewiping attack, although that one was a ritual. Vitiate's lightning was so powerful that Revan, a master of Tutanamis capable of absorbing lightsabers and lightning from elite Sith, was burned to a crisp just trying to absorb it. Vitiate was able to bare-handedly casually swat away the lightsaber of one of the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy, and broke the minds of Jedi masters with nothing more than a glance.

Sidious ain't got shit on Vitiate.

His life drain is simply not as impressive as Force Storm. It takes much more energy to bend reality to your will and make it explode into confetti with some concentration than it is to scour a planet of life, and as strong as the Sith Lords are, the ritual and everything else afterwards was, yet again back during when there were many Sith and the Dark side wasn't fully concentrated on a select few, meaning that Valky simply didn't have as much Power to throw around as Sidious.

And Revan getting overpowered by Valky's force lightning isn't as impressive as Palpatine making a lightsaber blade bend towards Windu's face, a lightsaber that was bouncing his energy right back at him mind you.

And even after his Ritual, he still needed tools and relics and other Darksiders (dreadmasters) to fully utilize his stolen power. Sidious? Just some preparation and focus and he can do it all on his own. Even if you can argue that his force feats are better, he still hasn't shown anything close to the level of Palpatine mindfucking Coruscant and Byss or pulling the wool over the eyes of the entire Jedi Council for all of the clone wars in terms of mental strength. Yes it was all over a long period of time, but he kept it constantly going for years and without even expending too much effort for it. It's the difference between stuffing your mouth with food in a massive feast and eating from your cache, you only tire yourself out and expend unnecessary effort for doing it in a frenzy while doing the former, while the latter sustains you and ultimately makes you stronger in the long run. I mean, Valky had to constantly switch bodies as his flesh puppets kept dying on him from his power while Palps simply had the misfortune of having been betrayed and given defective clones.

Oh and Palpatine is simply the greatest Sith lightsaber duelist of all time. A field of combat that Vitiate hasn't very good feats for. Not so easy trying to eat the "Embodiment of the Dark Side" as he tries to slice you into ribbons is there?
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@Savato, would you mind if I break down not because I can't achieve my ideal goals, but because of all the meaningless debate?

/just kidding.
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I was going to make a Micheal Bay Death Star joke, but got lazy and gave up
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@Letter Bee Breaking down is illegal now.

If you have feelings you are banned.

Also if you have toenails you're banned.

Edit: Sorry if post quality is eh. Between my health, which is much better now, the pace and my very stupid need to discuss Kaguya, it may seem a bit so-so.
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@Mtntopview Lol I also thought of that.
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@dirty slime Care to tell me what's actually happening in your post? A lot of it is floweryness and super vague. I can guess at it with what you imply, but that is never wise in combat scenarios. I can assume you escaped by going sonic-speed, via the uttering of 'sonic move', and I suppose what "heavily damaged" my Fangs was the resulting sonic boom? It also isn't stated exactly how, or what you're trying to hit my character with at the end.
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Force Storm's greatest feat is destroying a fleet. Sure it sounds impressive, but what does it actually DO? In terms of usefulness, being able to annihilate planets is way beyond his force storms. And the force storms usually just teleport people anyway, which makes them EVEN LESS USEFUL.

What is your concept of the Force? It's not like the Force is divided over all Force Wielders, and the more of them there are the weaker they are. It's the primal energy of the universe, the life force of all things. Even all the Sith in the Old Republic combined probably weren't wielding more than a fraction of the total sum of the Dark Side. Shit, by your logic, if there are enough powerful Sith it's impossible to become a powerful Sith, because they've already taken most of the cake.

Revan's feats put him on-level with the likes of Yoda as one of the greatest Sith of all time. A warrior capable of using the Neutral side of the Force, overpowering entire strike teams of Jedi Masters with relative ease. Revan was ridiculously skilled, the kind of warrior who'd be able to annihilate Vader with both arms behind his back. And Vitiate casually burnt him to a crisp.

Of course, he also annihilated an entire team of Jedi Masters, consisting of some of the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy, by breaking through all of their lightsabers at once with a single lightning storm. He then broke their wills moments later, turning them into slaves to his will.

Tools and Darksiders? Not at all. He ruled an entire empire, but he fought alone. Usually against the members of said empire as they attempted to betray him. Betrayal doomed Sidious. But Vitiate psionically learned of his betrayal and proceeded to one-shot the Dark Council, the 11 most powerful Sith in the entire Empire. To give you an idea of how powerful these guys are, a battle between two members levelled a palace the size of a city block, which just happened to have been built to withstand heavy assault.

Sidious mind controlled an entire planet to a minor extent. Vitiate controlled an entire world, instantly, at a whim. He broke the minds of hundreds of Jedi, among them the most powerful Jedi in the Galaxy. And unlike Sidious, he does this mid-combat. No mild confusion bullshit, instant complete domination of the mind. Vitiate was so powerful that merely brushing against his mind was enough to cause most Sith to have an epileptic attack, including people like Darth Bane. Sidious might maintain his control for longer, but Vitiate is able to control mid-fight with ease, over an area the size of a planet, in addition to breaking the wills of some of the most powerful Force Wielders in the galaxy.

He was so powerful that his body could hardly contain him. But after he died, he just resurrected himself, and continued to wreck shit.

While in a weakened state, Vitiate was able to casually deflect the lightsaber of one of the galaxy's greatest fighters with his bare hands, not taking the fight seriously at any point during the fight. What's Sidious gonna do when his saber bounces off of Vitiate? Assuming Sidious is able to move before he gets simultaneously mindraped, burned to a crisp and drained into an empty husk.
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For affirmation.


Forgot to @ you again -.-
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@dirty slime Care to tell me what's actually happening in your post? A lot of it is floweryness and super vague. I can guess at it with what you imply, but that is never wise in combat scenarios. I can assume you escaped by going sonic-speed, via the uttering of 'sonic move', and I suppose what "heavily damaged" my Fangs was the resulting sonic boom? It also isn't stated exactly how, or what you're trying to hit my character with at the end.


Magnaangemon just activated a super-potent but super-short speed boosting spell that makes him massively hypersonic, fast enough that it makes even Newtypes have trouble predicting where he's going. The fruit of the unity between Advanced Programming Language (Digi-magic) and Mid-Childan Magic. He basically slashed your Fangs with his Holy sword dozens of times within a microsecond before swooping in from the rear and dive-bombing the Freedom's back with a dropkick at Mach 10+.

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dozens of times within a microsecond


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And failed to destroy them.
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And failed to destroy them.


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Destroying them instantly like that would be too much. And besides, they can be repaired or whatever thanks to that thing's Nanites anyway.
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@Dirty SlimeWell a few things to address, then. One, my character isn't a new type, and the mech isn't a gundam. Its all OC. Just thought I'd put that out there to avoid future confusion. Second, id appreciate it if you kept the control of my character to the barest minimum possible. I understand I can just continue the series of interrupts, but its just the principal behind it.
Sorry if this comes off as hostile. It isn't, rest assured. But tone doesn't translate well over the internet lol
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@Dirty SlimeWell a few things to address, then. One, my character isn't a new type, and the mech isn't a gundam. Its all OC. Just thought I'd put that out there to avoid future confusion. Second, id appreciate it if you kept the control of my character to the barest minimum possible. I understand I can just continue the series of interrupts, but its just the principal behind it.
Sorry if this comes off as hostile. It isn't, rest assured. But tone doesn't translate well over the internet lol


I use newtypes as a reference due to the fact that they've got insane reaction times. And also, whatever happens next; I doubt the Freedom will be too badly damaged. It needs to be fresh after all...
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are you posting slower now? *throws molasses at group* how bout now?
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are you posting slower now? *throws molasses at group* how bout now?


That's just New RP Syndrome. It'll regulate soon enough.
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