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No, it wouldn't because not all skills will be learnable at level one. Some may be level three even higher at the highest element affinity, and such skills could be beyond the reach of anyone who doesn't have top tier affinity.

But, on the flipside, there will be skills that require both elements. And if you put all of your points into one, you won't be able to use them at all either.

This would basically make there three possible paths for each class.

If I do just revert to the skill point idea, I will still put element point limits on some skills. So that there's upsides and downsides to your element choices. But, if I do that I will also give out some arbitrary number of element points with each "level up."

I'd like to hear more people's thoughts/questions about these things.

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Something I'd like to remind people who might be thinking about possible skills is that not all skills will literally utilize the elements. Earth could throw a big rock or change the shape of the earth, but it could also hold something in place, make your body(or your friend's body) stronger and things like that. They can be literal, but they don't have to be.

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I'm still making minor additions to the Lore post, so it's not done, just so you know.

Two new ideas:

First of all: we're probably going to go with Trapezoid's weapon idea. In addition to the Raiment, you can choose to spend some of your crystals on a weapon as well(the nature of the weapon is entirely up to you). The more you spend on your weapon, the more powerful, but also the less you have to spend on your Raiment(which impacts your abilities).

There's been an alternate skill tree form suggested to me, and here is my version of it:

Each class has some amount of basic skills, each one has element point requirements, and they are all the prerequisites to unlock more advanced skills in the same sort of vein.

For instance, one branch of skills for the Knights could be terraforming techniques. The basic would be making a hole to try to trip your opponent. You could expand on it with a variety of things. A fissure instead of a hole, or put spikes in the hole. Each level you get to add one to your repertoire, but some will have element point requirements. So you could only advance so far in the terraforming skill tree if your Earth is low.

This would make it slower gaining skills, and I would compensate by handing out levels more often. But it would make characters more specialized, and allow you to make your skill choices over time instead of basically deciding it all at once.

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I really like that last idea, the whole "more specializied character skill development" route is much better. Allows for adaptation to events/people in the rp instead of just making your character and letting them go wild. I was actually hoping to have my character start kinda nooby and have him still be in the training phase in the realm's academy or whatever it would be, so it would be awkward if he already had all his skills.

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Well there's no route where you'd have all your skills. In my first draft there would probably be only one technique per character that they had from the get go.

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I do really like that idea for the Skill Trees. One thing I'm not quite clear on, is our starting skill points. You said that the Raiments would be a part of determining that? Or is that something different you were talking about?

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Knowing how I play all games with skill trees, I'm just going to pick all the tanky skills with a little dps mixed in.

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I assume you mean the most recent one I mentioned.

You'll get one, maybe two skill points to assign at the very beginning. Skills will have elemental requirements(obviously you can't fly if you don't have any air). Your raiment is the source of your elemental power, and it's made up of the crystals you have in the beginning. So that's what it has to do with your skills. If you don't have any earth in your raiment, you can't go slinging rocks.

Your element thing will look something like this:

Knight
Earth: 13
Water: 12
Weapon: 5

With your elements almost even, you'll be able to learn most of the early skills. But higher up the skill tree there will be skills that can only be learned if you use primarily one element or the other.

To give an example of a skill under this system, I'll use the same one:

Glide:
Elemental requirement: 8 Air.

Flight:
Prerequisite: Glide
Elemental Requirement: 12 Air.

And then dual element abilities, the early ones will just require that you have both elements, but later ones will require more and more balance. Top tier will require you to have it split 15/15(This way there's an advantage to forgoing a weapon, as those who spend crystals on weapons won't be able to use top tier abilities.

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Can't wait to get this going, you plannin on havin an OOC up anytime soon?

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Well I haven't even finished with lore, but I think we can safely say that my latest skill system is the best so I'll stick with it, so that's decided.

Maybe tomorrow, but maybe later. We'll see how long it takes me to get the skill tree up.

If you guys want to, feel free to follow the same format for skills I gave and you can submit ideas for them via PM. I may change element requirements or prerequisites, though. So be prepared for that.

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Bump before work.

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These are all based on thirty points given in the beginning. It is also a work in progress.
Note that when a skill's power depends on level, that means your character's level(how many skill points total that you have assigned).
EDIT: actually, let's just assume that all abilities grow more powerful with your character.

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