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Welcome back. Wanted to get a reply to you before you got back, but got a new game and lost time. I'll have one for you later tonight however.
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Nioh 2. Was a fan of the first one, so figured I would give the sequel a shot.
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And a reply.

Will mention that the way you described Jinny going up the wall leads me to think her telekinesis might not be the garden variety telekinesis. If you want to go down that rabbit hole I'm willing to start spouting off my theories. Otherwise I'll stick to your declarations about how her power works.

Also, also. the one bit of fancy stuff that I feel Jinny would do best with at the moment is sadly very difficult to get, but would do wonders for her I think. Nth Metal. Gravity negation, promotes regeneration, and can be used to amp powers or store energy. Too bad it's not native to Earth.
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There's more than one kind? I'm curious, please explain.
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Hmm best way to explain. First thing is to mention this is all my own thoughts on the matter so is easily up for debate.
That out of the way it's not so much that there is different kinds of telekinesis, that's a different conversation, but more that there are different rankings of Telekinesis.

Basic Telekinesis is lifting/moving things with thought, the strength can be exceptionally high or low without leaving basic telekinesis. You can barely lift a pencil to you can lift skyscrapers, either way basic.

Advanced Telekinesis is when you start adding telekinetic properties to things. Object A pulls on Object B, or Object C repels all things near by, or creating fields or areas of telekinetic effect.

Beyond that you start getting into esoteric things. Like condensing telekinetic force into a useable energy source, or creating slip space pockets of telekinesis to teleport.

From my interpretation of how Jinny went up the wall she didn't use basic Telekinesis. As that would simply be her grabbing herself with TK and pulling herself up no need for outside help to move. No, what Jinny did was encapsulate herself in a bubble of TK that followed two rules; push against gravity, and push against everything not in the bubble.

Useable for flight, if tweaked, but also allows for a lot of other applications. Invert the rules and put it on someone else and suddenly they are moving slower and have a much harder, if not impossible, time dodging those throwing knives she just picked up. plus if she can make TK fields she can add them as edged fields to her knives to make them sharper, or simply throw pointed TK fields to stab things with her mind.

Most TK only do blunt force, ranged punches or kicks. Jinny might be able to do mind bullets or saws.
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She can also do shield bubbles, that was kind of one for later though. What would that fall under?

Also this kind of diving into how powers work is the kind of thing I love. You've just made things a lot more interesting.

See, going by your rules, her mother probably had basic tk. She was very good at minute things. Something as subtle as pulling a trigger with her mind. Jinny being a second generation with a similar but different power set makes complete sense to me.
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I regularly have conversations like this with friends, and it is one of the reason Izuku, from My Hero Academia, is one of my favorite characters. It's fun!

Bubble shield can be done with both basic Tk and advanced Tk but would work in different ways. Basic Tk would be just a simple pulse of TK to repel things. Would only work if the Meta in question was paying attention and might miss things if they aren't aware of some things

While Advanced Tk could set up a static field that repulses up to everything everything without needing to be micromanaged.

The power set growing as the generations grow always makes sense to me.
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Let's make it the second one. Sounds like more fun. In my head, she sort of has TK bubbles like Violet from the Incredibles. Slightly different but it's the best comparison I can think of. She puts the bubble around something and it holds steady until she takes it down, or it is overwhelmed by damage or superior force. I'll get thinking about my post and hopefully have something by the weekend.
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As an Advanced Tk user Jinny could do it in either way based on needs. Violet's bubbles are a great comparison as well.
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OK! Let me know if what I tried to have Jinny do doesn't make sense.
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It makes sense, bubbling thing so that if falls to the ground rather then stopping it outright.

Have to say I like the fact that she calculates what she can do and get away with, with her power. Is not something most super powered people do.
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Jin is a numbers person. She could have just made the bubble, but she likes consistency. Also she probably watches a lot of science tv like Mythbusters, so she likes reproduceable results.
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Rereading things I also realized that there is potential for Jinny not to be a telekinetic at all and instead be a gravity manipulator. Lot of the same capabilities and low power out puts but scaled up things get different.

Also I'm fine with either a bit more training stuff or a jump to them arriving at the academy.
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Hmm. Explain the gravity manipulation?
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Once again just my own interpretation of how these systems would work. Take with grain of salt.

Surface level and at low power. There isn't a notable difference between Telekinesis and Gravity manipulation. As both involve moving things around, just the how is different. TK grab things or alter Gravity in the area around a thing. The floaty nature of how Jinny is moving things/lifting herself could be a result of Gravity manip rather then TK usage. As the need for bubbles of effect rather then direct targeting reads slightly more Gravity then TK. As TK is like having invisible hands that reach out and grab/move things for you. Rather then causing things to fall in a direction of your choosing.

The floaty nature of her flight, the delayed effect on the dart, the need to calculate the forces involved. It can easily be seen as Gravity manip. By that same token it can also be seen as a TK who is using a wider grip then is needed.
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*chin rub* I've always written this character with TK. But I don't mind considering new options. I could make the switch just for my own curiosity.

I will have to think about it.
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Sounds good, and again just my interpretation of things at the moment feel free to disregard if you so choose. I'm just tossing out ideas and at the end of it Jinny's your toon, not mine.
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No worries, take all the time you need. Rping is supposed to be a source of relaxation not stress.
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