Mostly. Are you going to want to compile an actual list, in that case? Where we know just what kinds of species exist? Or are we still going to leave it somewhat up in the air until it settles itself out in-story? I'm fine with making a list, although you may have to take point on that. Just because my head for remembering mythological creatures I enjoy is currently lolling out of a speeding car window like a dog...

Heheheheh. We can make a list if you like. I can see one being useful, and since you like working on making worlds and histories so much if we make a comprehensive list we can work together over the course or the RP to build their cultures and histories. *Thinks* I don;t wanna come up with all the races, so how about you tell me which ones you really like, I think you mentioned a humanoid tiger race or something like that before, then I'll fill in some spaces and configurate my own. From there we can put them on their sides and fill in information about them as the RP goes along! HOWEVER! I think we should do that AFTER we finish up with all those questions you had :P

Fair enough. List can be postponed. I'll do a little bit of research when we get to that point, and will make it so that you don't have to do everything. Promise.

What would you like to address next?

"I am ok with any species cliches, so long as it isn't a hard and fast rule. Saying "all dwarves have beards," is like saying "all dogs have fur." Occasionally there is just an exception. Which is why I often drop a warrior monk elf and a fastidiously neat dwarf into the middle of a fantasy roleplay. Just to make a point."

I agree, there will always be exceptions. So, while making our list I think we could work in some stereotypes, work them over, discuss them. . . .

Sounds good. I definitely think that stereotypes have their place, because it is going to color the general attitudes of other people, but we can work through them as well. What is next?

"My only major concern with plot is having our characters (or at least my character, I don't really get any say in yours) doing something because "it is the right thing to do." I don't mind if events do come up where they do do the right thing to do, but there needs to be a better motivation for it than that. :)"

I think this falls completely in the realm of the characters alone, their personalities and backgrounds, and the interplay between them along with the situation they are in. In other words, I agree; I have no control over your character, and you have none over mine. I think I understand though what you were getting at, and to sum THAT up, I agree that this story would be better served if neither of our guys are 'goody-goodies'. SO I will keep that in mind in my character description. He's already in my head for the most part, since that is how my mind works(I don't make characters, they present themselves to me and I write them down), and I can tell you now he has not "For the good of all" complex :P I do however had a habit of being presented with nice, mischievous, devious guys, if morally reprehensible in their actions, so keep that in mind :P I can write evil character, but I don't fit in very well playing them as "Myself" in an RP :P If that makes any sense. *Grin*

Makes perfect sense. Can we take a slight detour back in time, to remind me of what exactly we plan to do with this plot. I know we have the organization, and that we have a Daywalker and a Nightwalker who are working together to make sure that the Daywalkers and the Nightwalkers at large don't fight. But we aren't still going with "tear down the Organization" are we? Seeing as how that is really the only thing keeping both species safe, are we? And we've also established that having "mixed" parentage isn't completely uncommon, so it isn't as though the story would be focusing on the kid. What were we planning to do? I also don't know who is taking which character on the side. I don't really care, so would you prefer a Day or Nightwalker?

I lean towards Nightwalkers, and I don't see how "Tearing down the establishment" is no longer an option. I if remember it correctly when first discussed the reason for the tear down was that our guys really hate the way things are going, with the baby slaying and mass genocide of innocents. I think starting with that as a base would be a good way to worm our way in and find the true course of the plot and eventually work out the spectacular story I know is hiding in here :P I know it sounds a little "Good guy" but one does not need to be good to disapprove of killing people not really involved or babies. Think of it like the organization, while still keeping war at bay, are doing so in such a corrupt and self destructive way that now it's no longer about keeping the peace, but about the ones in power asserting their authority in reprehensible manners. That would be the base motivation of the coup, but since you wanna avoid "Good for the sake of good" your guy could have his own reason for wanting to do what they are doing, and hey, maybe even be planning to screw my guy over once the opportinity presents itself :P

Has it hit mass genocide of innocents? And where did baby slaying come from? I seem to recall that the organization punished those who threatened to destroy the peace, and babies would hardly do that. I thought the people who started the organization were... well, reliable? Also, if they tear it down, the war would start back up, and the same attack that killed all the children in the first place might get used again. Unless, of course, by "baby slaying" you are implying that the Organization was the one who launched the original nasty magic attack in the first place, knowing what it would do?

Hua, so many questions. I think this is due to my total recall. Back near the beginning of our discussions we came up with ideas of what our guys would be up to, and why. The reason we came up with was because the organization had become corrupted and our guys disagree with the way things are running now. Part of that discussion was the killing of half breed babies and children(If I'm not recalling incorrectly) and the killing of those simply suspected of conspiring to "Instigate war" a.k.a. disagrees with the organization's policies. The organization was founded and run on very reliable an honorable principals, but like all things that do not grow and progress, it stagnates and rots. Those running it not are not nearly as high minded as those who founded it, and because of that we have a corrupt system. I would say our guys don't want to tear it down per se, but they do realize that the only way to fix the problems with it is to first burn out it rotten core, gut it of all that is befouling it, and perhaps re-build it the way it was meant to be run.

However, that is just the beginning motivation in my mind. I can see it going in a million different directions depending on our characters and the story as it plays out. The magic bomb, the way I see it, would hold less threat and give us an interesting starting point if our guys have been doing exactly what the organization was put together to avoid. See what I mean?

No, Pope, I don't see. I'm sorry if I'm disappointing or pathetic, but I'm sick and I'm tired and I don't remember what we talked about and I just don't get it.

Oki, then I will wait til you feel better before trying to explain again. I'm sorry you are feeling unwell and tired, I hope you feel better soon!

Thank you for waiting. Sorry. I don't ever want to be that sick again...

I'm glad you feel better. The simplified way of explaining the idea I thought we had is: It was perfectish when it was set up, but now those in charge have very f'ed up ideals and are ordering things neither side wants, but since the system still seems to be working no one is really openly acting out against the system save for the actual "Rebels".

Ok. I can see that. Power, corruption, etc.

Do our characters have some alternative in place for the Organization? Or are they just at the "destroy it and see what happens" phase?

Are we still doing the thing about the half-blood child?

I think having a cooperatively controlled half-breed child in or leading the rebellion as an eventual contact for our characters would be a good idea.

As for how far they are with their plan, that depends on where we feel like starting. I think it would be good to start before any solid plan is in place so that if we find our characters would deal with it one way, and the plan we come up with before hand no longer fits . . .Well, we wouldn't have to deal with that situation if we start earlier than the actual planning phase :P

Hey, Pope. As ever, very sorry for the delay. I had to do a bit of thinking.

Your idea about the Organization is entirely possible in this world. In fact, I would even go so far as to say it is plausible. It could happen. There is no doubt of that. But I've realized something else. I don't really... want it to happen. There is no reason that the Organization couldn't be corrupt and a monster that should be destroyed, but that doesn't mean it has to be, right? I love the world, I'm fascinated by the relationship between the Day and Nightwalkers. I like the relationship between our characters, that they pretend to only be paired by force, but are secretly really good friends. I'd be very interested in having a half-breed child who somehow integrates his way into the story. But an evil organization controlled by a corrupt leader, and a rebellion determined to bring them down? It just feels... like something I won't be able to get behind. I'm sorry, because I know you like the idea a lot. But can we change it? Pick something else that drives the plot?

*Shrug* Sure. Maybe one of our guys is gunning to take one of the top spots in the organization some day. . . . .The organization falls and our guys have to find a way to survive and maybe create a new organization of some kind. . . . .Humans discover the nonhumans en-mass and the organization has to deal with the fallout. . . . .Time travel is always fun. . . . . .Our guys pick up a case by chance that leads them to a nonhuman child/young kid/young teen that is unclassified and stronger than any other nonhuman. . . . . .Any mix of the above that works for you :P

I like the idea that our duo gets assigned a mission, although I think it should be large enough that there would be more than one team going. That way, we can play around with their relationship in front of other people, as well as away from them.

... How about this. For some reason or another, our guys leave halfway through this mission, and when they return to the Organization they learn that the teams who remained were all butchered, and suspicion has fallen on... one of them. Not both. They have to figure out who did it while under constant scrutiny. This antagonistic force is looking to break down/ take over the organization, and turn it into the evil organization that we were considering before. The best way to do that is break it from the inside, and, for some reason... our characters are an ideal place to start.

That could get a nice mix of conspiracy, action, and conflict, mixed in with the daily life of the Organization members, and the brunt they have to take from a public that hates them. Because I do believe that the Organization has to get its hands dirty fairly often. And some, maybe even most, people don't support it. But it isn't necessarily cruel or bloodthirsty.

Of course, all the while, the humans are, for one reason or another, drawing closer to figuring out about the existence of the Walkers. Perhaps a halfbreed child between a human and one of the races? Or another malignant force that wants the humans to wipe out the Walkers?

Any of that sound good to you?

How about a mission that starts out as routine, but something discovered during the first stage draws higher up's attention and it actually gets turned into a multi-squad thing, making our guys feel a little pushed aside, because hey, it's our case :P

*Thinks* Yeah, the thing above happens, then the butchering, adding intrigue, and maybe, just a little touch of my old idea, perhaps our guys discovering that the organization itself has connections to the massacre AND the initial job?

OH! If we go with the idea that they are not highly supported by the public I can see most of the workers from more traditional or richer families who see joining the Organization as almost a give-in for a portion of their lives because it's become a kind of tradition. (If we go with this idea, I should warn that my guy will most likly be one of those odd individuals NOT from a rich family and has joined under mysterious circumstances).

*Shuffles around* I like, and call me weird for it, but I has a liking for adopting in RPs, so if we go with the half breed thing I think ti would be a lot of fun if our guys in some way come to take care of a 7-13 year old half breed, which up til that point had been being raised by human parents, but for some reason or another the parents are now dead. . . .Just an idea that came to me, what cha think?