[OOC] From Stardust, To Stardust

[WilsonTurner]

It's okay ASTA, it'll only really be the Iscandarians and the Sarzies against everyone else. Already, I have gained support with the Nouvellians, and the Terrans are highly unlikely to be rejoining the Iscandarians in any kind of treaty. The merfolk people will, no doubt, come around after hearing about the Iscandarians attacking the Terrans to oppress and control them, removing their free well, and should Mr. Cale Tucker come back, I'll have his support as well.

[null123]

This was directed at ASTA

[null123]

WilsonTurner said
It's okay ASTA, it'll only really be the Iscandarians and the Sarzies against everyone else. Already, I have gained support with the Nouvellians, and the Terrans are highly unlikely to be rejoining the Iscandarians in any kind of treaty. The merfolk people will, no doubt, come around after hearing about the Iscandarians attacking the Terrans to oppress and control them, removing their free well, and should Mr. Cale Tucker come back, I'll have his support as well.

The Iscandarian Leaders responsible are already being disposed of, as such with careful diplomacy the support of the merfolk or terrans could be gained, assuming of course the merfolk even want to take a side, so far the way LaXyand has portrayed them they seem very neutral . The support of the Nouvellans is not really that big of a deal, there not even out of the industrial era yet. So at the moment, your really on your own.

Plus what real reasons do the two sides have to come into conflict beyond you just wanting to create war for war's sake?

[TehAlphaGamer]

WilsonTurner said
Sarzies

It's been like half a year and you still can't pronounce the name right.

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TehAlphaGamer said
It's been like half a year and you still can't pronounce the name right.

It took me like a week to learn.

[Keyguyperson]

duck55223 said
The Iscandarian Leaders responsible are already being disposed of, as such with careful diplomacy the support of the merfolk or terrans could be gained, assuming of course the merfolk even want to take a side, so far the way LaXyand has portrayed them they seem very neutral . The support of the Nouvellans is not really that big of a deal, there not even out of the industrial era yet. So at the moment, your really on your own.Plus what real reasons do the two sides have to come into conflict beyond you just wanting to create war for war's sake?

> Support
> Terrans
> Iscandarians

Nah, man. We're a strong, independent species that don't need no space NATO.

You don't even know how hard I'm trying to not make a Planetes reference right now.

[null123]

I never said you would join Space EU, just that I could gain your support.

[Keyguyperson]

duck55223 said
I never said you would join Space NATO, just that I could gain your support.

Again, Terrans no likey Iscandarians.

[null123]

Keyguyperson said
Again, Terrans no likey Iscandarians.

Even know the 3 responsible are soon to be dead?

[WilsonTurner]

duck55223 said
The Iscandarian Leaders responsible are already being disposed of, as such with careful diplomacy the support of the merfolk or terrans could be gained, assuming of course the merfolk even want to take a side, so far the way LaXyand has portrayed them they seem very neutral . The support of the Nouvellans is not really that big of a deal, there not even out of the industrial era yet. So at the moment, your really on your own.Plus what real reasons do the two sides have to come into conflict beyond you just wanting to create war for war's sake?

I'm not making war for the sake of warring, you are! You're the one that literally just popped up and started capturing and shooting anyone and everyone, and then when people point it out, you say, "The leaders are already removed."

Dude, this is a ROLEPLAY. That's IC crap- not OOC. YOU caused war for no real reason, and when you got flak for it, you make up some half-assed excuse.

You made war for the sake of warring and getting your own gorram way. Stop trying to make it sound like it's something else, cause it ain't.

You can't just kill the leaders and make it all good. No, you invaded another person. You INVADED another person, and tried to oppress them and bring them under your rule- you tried to conquer them. If an empire tries to take over a neighboring country, and they fend you off, you will NOT make an alliance with them during peacetime if you just replace the emperor. You pissed them off, and they'll stay pissed for quite some time, and the only way you might get an alliance if you both are fighting for your lives, and will not survive without each other. And even then, humans are not people that easily forgive- racism against a race that tried to conquer would be so high that living side by side would be impossible, unless under immanent battle at every turn.

Unless humans are completely different.

[null123]

Actually no, there was a reason for war, apparently you don't pay attention to my posts or need to have your reading glasses checked.

I did not create war for war's sake, the reasons had been setup and or were explained after the war had occurred. The 3 Immortals who aren't Aaliyah after the rather gruesome and horrifying content sent to the Iscandarians they deemed them to violent. Aaliyah disagreed however and prevented them from starting a war there and then. After Aaliyah went off on her mission however the nukes were launched and picked up by the ship that had been stationed there. With Aaliyah gone and not able to disagree they used it as a opportunity to do what they wanted do so long ago.

[WilsonTurner]

Yes yes, that's what america would do, except they'd be smarter and actually WIN, and THINK.

You see, America is in shambles- we've got massive debt, and we've got buddies because we're good for business and good for influence. No one particularly likes us because we're nice people. You made your military doctrine a righteous American doctrine, minus the giant debt and etc etc etc, and times two thousand perfect.

by your logic, I could make a warring race that would take over the humans for the same reasons- then take over the Iscandarians for having more individual power than everyone else, whatwith magic, and then take over the merfolk because they aren't a strong enough people and need more strength from violence, and then the Nouvellians for not progressing and thinking as fast as they should have, and then the Valkians for not being more ambitious in their early years than they should have been, and the hiveminds for being too thoughtful in one direction- whether too aggressive or so passive they don't say anything until long after all possible observations could be recorded.

AND you evade the fact that you're thinking completely naive and stupid. Duck, I'd love to not have a permanent grudge against you, but you speaking and acting stupid doesn't help. You could certainly be an excellent writer with excellent ideas and stories- you just apply yourself to powerful, perfect peoples, repetitive word choice and just about as much military imagination as a twelve year old. You made a race that has power within every single person, with great expansionism and powerful armies, the most powerful army in the roleplay besides the "Ancient" types, such as the Etherals and hiveminds- and even then, you've beat them. I dunno about TehAlphaGamer's, but he isn't being stupid about everything. He's not invading people, he's not really messing with anyone.

Duck, you keep making peaceful perfects and start warring with people. You've fought the largest Etheral fleet, you've tried to conquer Sol, you've probably got one of the biggest fleets in the roleplay, and you've got endlessly loyal subjects who will follow you off a cliff until the bodies are so high that there's a bridge. Then they'll keep going until the very last person can make it all the way around the planet without following, wondering where everyone went.

Nouvelle is Space Africa. Valkians confined themselves to one system, despite the ability to leave it, and keep crimerate and such down by the fact that everyone can see everyone. The Terrans are spaceborne, but they are not able to leave their system, and still conflict with themeslves. The hiveminds are somewhat inactive on the overall scale. The Sazkajhia are powerful, but they don't mess with anyone, invade anyone, and are generally just some nice militarized peoples who keep their home systems unknown. The Iscandarians are magical people that are all so loyal that they'd watch their taxes go to war and back again without any complaints at all. The Merfolk have made contact with almost no one.

KeyGuy, I frickin' swear, I am about to just LEAVE if I have to listen to him being stupid again. I don't know how you can stand it for so long- for that I most definitely commend you beyond the highest commendations.

[null123]

Wilson Turner said
AND you evade the fact that you're thinking completely naive and stupid. Duck, I'd love to not have a permanent grudge against you, but you speaking and acting stupid doesn't help. You could certainly be an excellent writer with excellent ideas and stories- you just apply yourself to powerful, perfect peoples, repetitive word choice and just about as much military imagination as a twelve year old. You made a race that has power within every single person, with great expansionism and powerful armies, the most powerful army in the roleplay besides the "Ancient" types, such as the Etherals and hiveminds- and even then, you've beat them. I dunno about TehAlphaGamer's, but he isn't being stupid about everything. He's not invading people, he's not really messing with anyone.

I don't know how to respond to the naive and stupid thing beyond saying that it is a poor debate tactic and just makes it look like your attacking your opponent rather then trying to shoot down their points.

The hiveminds, as Dark have said before, have a very odd variance in tech amongst their forces. Most of their ships are gotten from really low-tech civs, so there pretty shite in the long run. The Ethereals also have a severe allergy to magic, not of my choosing. Even then both times I have beaten the Ethereals it was at a great cost. The first time a good portion of a Sazkarjhit fleet was damaged and a lot of defense stations were destroyed, and the second time it cost a expensive ass prototype ship and a significant amount of fighters, as well as severe damage to a expensive top-of-the-line research station. I haven't expanded much at all, and my armies aren't the most powerful. War against Sazkarjhia would be long and difficult, and wouldn't have a clear victor as both sides would likely loose a lot.

Wilson Turner said
Duck, you keep making peaceful perfects and start warring with people. You've fought the largest Etheral fleet, you've tried to conquer Sol, you've probably got one of the biggest fleets in the roleplay, and you've got endlessly loyal subjects who will follow you off a cliff until the bodies are so high that there's a bridge. Then they'll keep going until the very last person can make it all the way around the planet without following, wondering where everyone went.

Not entirely perfect, they could be considered a bit arrogant, which I would say is the greatest flaw anyone could have, and they do have a few more. I did indeed fight the largest Ethereal fleet, with the support of two Sazkarjhia assault fleets and the lucky fact that they have a severe allergy to magic. I do not have the biggest fleet, that either Sazkarjhia, the Ethereals, or most likely the hive. I started off with 600 ships and currently have about 750, and will have a 1000 soon. That has mainly come because they have been attacked by three separate forces. Nor are my people endlessly loyal, or otherwise they wouldn't be displeased about the 3 Immortals decisions regarding Sol, or the unmentioned Imperialist Rebellion on New Alas.

Wilson Turner said
Nouvelle is Space Africa. Valkians confined themselves to one system, despite the ability to leave it, and keep crimerate and such down by the fact that everyone can see everyone. The Terrans are spaceborne, but they are not able to leave their system, and still conflict with themeslves. The hiveminds are somewhat inactive on the overall scale. The Sazkajhia are powerful, but they don't mess with anyone, invade anyone, and are generally just some nice militarized peoples who keep their home systems unknown. The Iscandarians are magical people that are all so loyal that they'd watch their taxes go to war and back again without any complaints at all. The Merfolk have made contact with almost no one.

See above, Iscandarians aren't entirely loyal. They do have a degree that they support the Greater Good so such taxes would be fine with most, but most would still complain about it at most minimum.

[ASTA]

So yeah.

About that potentially-hostile alien starship lurking 'near' Sol...

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ASTA said
So yeah. About that potentially-hostile alien starship lurking 'near' Sol...

I estimate you have about another 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000..........

WARNING ERROR OVERLOAD, CAN NOT COMPUTE REMAINING HOURS TILL KEYGUY POSTS.

[WilsonTurner]

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KeyGuy, if I make a nation roleplay that is specifically against any kind of nation I deem 'perfect, or close to', and a very strategic lack of duck, would you join?

EDIT: I have been attacked by the Etherals and the L'__ hiveminds. Each time, I did not use giant fleets. Each time, it was smaller, ship-to-ship combat, and I emerged victorious because I have big-ass armor sets, and weapons that seemed to do more damage than I expected them to. I did not make myself win- I said I fired, and I let the other person blow themselves up. If they took damage but tore my ship in half by superior tactics or weapons, then I would be angry as I always am when I get blown up or I lose, but I'd accept it.

I have like, 7 dreadnoughts, and they make up about a third of my military fleet, if there's even that much. You could literally just take all your ships and fire one or two guns, and I'd lose everything in the fire.

[ASTA]

A strategic lack of Duck.

[Kyelin]

Lol, it begins again XD

[WilsonTurner]

Unless he can come up with something unique and not perfect, or close to perfect. If he's doing something new and challenging himself, sure. Not being dumb, sure. I'm just really very tired with duck and his...

duckness, to be very short and brief.

[ASTA]

Duckness.