[OOC] The Rise of Man (Fallout-like RP)

[EveryMemeAKing]

@MetalLoverSince many people mentioned mutants, what kind of "fantastic" elements are allowed?
Even in Fallout the mutants are usually product of genetic experiments and the FEV virus.
Also didn't the nations used fusion nukes that are almost completely void of any fallout? Granted, a destruction of this scale I bet there are plenty of other hazards.
Just saying.

@Willy Vereb

"Mutants" with minor deformities are allowed. I do believe accounts of the children of survivors of Chernobyl and the Nuclear bombings of Japan resulted in some of them having deformities, so it would make sense that some of those would breed together during those two hundred years, areas with a larger populace, which needed more nukes, would most likely have more mutants.
So no, no Super Mutants like in fallout, but people with minor deformities can be used in story.
Now moving on to experiments, I was talking about how these bunkers (vaults) where used, maybe have on in your area that was used specifically for the experiments of creating a slave-like mutated human, if you bring up that as an example, as long as it isn't so far fetched, I'd be fine.

[PerseusArchean]

Can someone break down the timeline for me? I'm having trouble figuring out when the bombs dropped, when humanity came out of the bunkers, and when we are now?

[Willy Vereb]

Can someone break down the timeline for me? I'm having trouble figuring out when the bombs dropped, when humanity came out of the bunkers, and when we are now?

@PerseusArchean

I would prefer if we at least know a rough timeline for the war and the current date, too.
As for when did you emerge from underground? All up to you. Technically since we used "clean" nukes you don't need to fear radioactive waste being spread around so you can surface right after the war... with certain other consequences.

@MetalLover

[Iluvatar]

Legal Nation Name: The Kingdom of Great Britain
What Areas Do You Control:

The Kingdom of Great Britain

Plus Gibraltar, the Faroe Islands, and small outposts on Iceland.

Flag or Banner:

The Flag of Great Britain

Political Party: The Conservative Party/Tories
Type of Government: Unitary oligarchic constitutional monarchy
Date Out of Bunker: 2231
Productions: Coal, Ships, Electrical Equipment, Pharmaceuticals, Aircraft

History of the Nation:

Recent History of Great Britain

When the war between the Caliphate of Istanbul and the Second Ethiopian Empire began to involve low-yield tactical nuclear weapons, the government of the former United Kingdom began to make arrangements to preserve as much of the country's artefacts, government and population. The most powerful nation on earth at the time, it was considered inevitable that Britain would be drawn into the conflict eventually.

The first two years of the war (sans the British) saw great preparation across the nation. The population could not be kept in the dark, so the government was forced to publish information about the 'Shelters' that far exceeded the true scale of the preparative measures. These Shelters were large bunker-like structures build across the country, approximately one to a county. They were designed as a refuge for the local County Councils; a store for food supplies and weapons; and a place of dwelling for the British people. But alas, each could hold just 2'000 people - at a stretch.

To further defend the country, the Ministry of Defence began to develop in earnest anti-ballistic missile systems and a sophisticated, if small, 'Royal-Satellite-D-and-Defence-Network' (RSDDN) in an effort to reduce the potential quantity of explosive and atomic ordnance that could be detonated in or over the United Kingdom. This project, using data and research from the previous world conflict, allowed the British to develop a form of defence for the home islands that no other nation at the time could easily assail.

Britain entered the war two years after its beginning, when the Caliphate of Istanbul seized control over the Suez Canal and blocked all trade through it. This brought on the Second Suez Crisis, in which the UK, along with France, issued an ultimatum demanding demilitarisation of the Canal and Anglo-French administration for the duration of the conflict. This ultimatum was rejected by the Turks. Just three days later, the British entered the war on the Ethiopians' side.

It took just two days beyond that for the bombs to fall on London. The Royal Navy, from its bases on Cyprus, quickly swept the Caliphate Navy from the Mediterranean and issued a full blockade. Realising the war was lost, the Caliph of Istanbul, with the city under siege by an Anglo-Franco-Greek army, issued a decree demanding the destruction of the British Home Islands using nuclear weapons.

The anti-ballistic missile system and RSDDN were able to lessen and reduce the bombardment, but they were unable to halt the barrage entirely.

London, of course was hit, several times. Bristol, Oxford, Cambridge, Bimingham, Swansea, Edinburgh, Belfast and other cities were quickly destroyed - but not erased, as might have been without the defences.

At the same time, the Government and the Royal Family fled to a hidden bunker beneath Dartmoor. The County Councils and some few of the population were able to escape below ground also, bought time by the UK defences. Many fled to the countryside, into the hills, the downs and the forests. Some built new communities, others fell into barbarism.

Whatever the case, by the end of the nuclear exchange, the UK and its Empire no longer existed. The British Isles were in ruins.

About 200 years later, the Government, which had, by this time, developed into an Oligarchy, emerged from its bunker. The world had changed, and these people, who had never seen the light of day, knew little of how to survive beyond the confines of the Shelter. Nevertheless, they began the process of rebuilding.

They broadcast a radio message approximately one year after the 'Emerging' attempting to contact other survivors above or below ground.

It worked.

The descendants of the surviving civilised population gradually emerged from the Shelters and the wilderness, beginning to rebuild. Away from the major cities, much of the infrastructure remained in the smaller settlements - some were even used as habitation for scattered tribal groups. Over the course of the decade, the population began to establish contact with one another and form new groups.

The Royal Family, which had regained nothing of its power nor lost it to the new Oligarchy, emerged with the Government and returned to the destroyed London, where a few buildings had been reconstructed as a new base for the capital. Aptly, a large structure had been put together in the ruins of the Houses of Parliament for the meeting of government. A new 'United Kingdom' was proclaimed.

Many years past, and the peoples of England, Wales and Scotland began to reform themselves as a single, disjointed structure. Many groups, particularly outside of England, rejected the attempts by the central government to establish control.

By around 2245, London (now with a sizeable settlement along the north bank of the Thames, primarily around the Houses of Parliament) had gained direct control over the counties of Greater London, Essex, Surrey, Suffolk and Kent, and wielded rather less direct power over most of the Midlands, East Anglia, and the rest of the South East. The Government claimed overlordship over the entirety of the British Isles, and many groups were happy to accept this in return for the trade in sophisticated technology, which remained largely in the control of London.

During the next decade, 'The United Kingdom' went on the path of conquest, both in a military sense and in a diplomatic sense. The 'Great Restoration' began with the 'Anchluss' of the Riding of Yorkshire to the Kingdom in 2248, and the subsequent integration of the State of Lancashire after a short and bitter battle.

The South West was harder to subdue. A pirate Cornish state had subjugated the populations of Devon, Dorset and southern Somerset under a self-proclaimed 'Celtic Chiefdom'. The 'British' were welcomed as liberators by the oppressed English people under Cornish rule. A swift victory was achieved in a tentative alliance with the 'Republic of Bristol', which controlled Gloucestershire and northern Somerset. By 2254, the entirety of the southwest was under British control, or allied to the Kingdom, with only part of Cornwall under siege and resisting.

Concerned about renewed English dominance of the island, various Welsh and Scottish tribes and chiefdoms allied and simultaneously invaded the new Kingdom, now encompassing almost all of England. But they were overmatched in the face of superior technology - deliberately kept only in the hands of the central government - and in 2257, a massive counter-attack was launched into Wales, quickly overcoming any resistance and annexing the various (and squabbling) states into the Kingdom.

During and after this period, contact was made with some of the Celtic tribes of Ireland. It was revealed that the island had collapsed into complete anarchy, with no centralised form of government and no recognisable nation-states with which to negotiate. The British government decided to end the war with the Scottish clans before attempting any overseas expansion.

This war ended with the destruction of the 'Principality of Aberdeen' and the swearing of fealty and annexation by the Scottish Highland Clans. The government in a now largely rebuilt (though obviously still much smaller) London declared a new 'Kingdom of Great Britain', pending the potential absorption of Ireland.

The period of Expansion came to an end, and the Kingdom instead turned to internal matters and the establishment of a new Royal Navy, to defend the islands. All holdouts ultimately surrendered, including Cornwall. British policy turned in the 2260s to the re-establishment of contact with Gibraltar and intervention in Irish affairs.

The 2270s saw the establishment of British client states in Ireland, the further integration of the formerly restive Welsh and Scots, and the founding of trading posts in Iceland.

Which brings the Kingdom to 2280, and the aims of the British to reestablish hegemony over Ireland, the re-entering into European politics, and expeditions to the New World.

Main Race:
85% English
10% Celtic
5% Other

Main Religion: Anglicanism
Other: Great Britain has subdued the Scots and Welsh by exiling rebellious leaders and 'educating' children into supporting the Kingdom. There is much positive sentiment among the British population overall concerning the unified state, partly due to the much higher survival rate of the English over the Celts. The island of Great Britain is now populated by over 85% English compared to just 10% Celtic - although an anomaly is in Cornwall, where there has been a Celtic population explosion that roughly equals the English population there.

The UK government built a 'Shelter' in Gibraltar as well, within the Rock, but, after the nuclear war, Gibraltar was cut off from all contact with London. Around the same time as the mainland British population, they emerged and re-established their community, but found themselves marooned as a culturally English exclave in a hostile Spanish region. When Royal Navy ships appeared on the horizon, the Gibraltarians were quick to accept British control and protection.

[EveryMemeAKing]

Can someone break down the timeline for me? I'm having trouble figuring out when the bombs dropped, when humanity came out of the bunkers, and when we are now?

@PerseusArchean

2075: Tensions between the Caliphate and Ethiopia are nearing a war with the revealing that Zakariah was murdered by Istanbul's troops
2077: Ethiopia warns the Caliphate to give Jerusalem to them or face consequences, the Caliphate laughs this off.
March 1st, 2080: Ethiopian Troops begin to march onto Egypt, causing Ottomans to begin Air strikes on Addis Ababa
March 2nd, 2080: Greece and the Soviet Empire join Ethiopia in wiping out the Caliphate, causing the Caliphate to spread its troops out.
July 15th, 2080: After a long stalemate Ethiopia nukes Istanbul out of existence.
July 16th, 2080: In response, the Caliphate drops nukes on Moscow, Athens, and Addis Ababa.
July 17th, 2080: An attempted peace fails and Ethiopia nukes Ankara, Mosul, and Baghdad.
July 18th, 2080: The Caliphate nuke St. Petersburg and Kiev.
November 13th, 2080: Julius lands in Cyprus.
July 19th, 2081: The nations of Europe begin taking sides with Hungary supporting the Holy League (Ethiopia, Greece, and the Russians) and the GEC voices support for the Caliphate.
July 21st, 2081: Paris is nuked by Russian forces, in response the GEC nukes Budapest.
June 15th, 2082: Julius lands in Crete, where he stays for 10 years.
July 24th, 2082: The rest of Europe and Majority of the nations from around the World have begun taking sides.
September 1st, 2082: Majority of Europe falls into Anarchy.
October 15th, 2082: Majority of Asia falls next.
November 17th, 2082: All world governments have fallen at this point except for the Unified Territories of America and United free peoples of True Asia.
December 31st, 2082: United free peoples of True Asia finally fall into full anarchy, leaving the UTA alone.
July 4th, 2083: The assassination of the UTA's president leads to it falling into anarchy, destroying all of the worlds major governments.
November 25th, 2092: Julius begins his conquest of the Holy land.
December 24th, 2092: Julius begins his attempt to conquer Jerusalem.
December 25th, 2092: He takes Jerusalem.
December 24th, 2112: Julius dies, leaving his son Justinian to take the throne.
September 1st, 2139: Justinian dies, leaving Julius the Second to take the throne.
October 15th, 2201: Julius the Second dies, after him two uneventful reigns.
December 25th, 2255: Julius the Third is crowned Emperor.
December 25th, 2265: He begins to retake the Surface world.
January 1st, 2266: He slaughters the fake Caliphate over Jerusalem.
Yay Timeline, I'll go through and add more to it in my free time, including the destruction of Japan, the Rise of Holy Empire, and the fall of London.

[EveryMemeAKing]

Legal Nation Name: The Kingdom of Great Britain
What Areas Do You Control:

The Kingdom of Great Britain

Plus Gibraltar, the Faroe Islands, and small outposts on Iceland.

Flag or Banner:

The Flag of Great Britain

Political Party: The Conservative Party/Tories
Type of Government: Unitary oligarchic constitutional monarchy
Date Out of Bunker: 2231
Productions: Coal, Ships, Electrical Equipment, Pharmaceuticals, Aircraft

History of the Nation:

Recent History of Great Britain

When the war between the Caliphate of Istanbul and the Second Ethiopian Empire began to involve low-yield tactical nuclear weapons, the government of the former United Kingdom began to make arrangements to preserve as much of the country's artefacts, government and population. The most powerful nation on earth at the time, it was considered inevitable that Britain would be drawn into the conflict eventually.

The first two years of the war (sans the British) saw great preparation across the nation. The population could not be kept in the dark, so the government was forced to publish information about the 'Shelters' that far exceeded the true scale of the preparative measures. These Shelters were large bunker-like structures build across the country, approximately one to a county. They were designed as a refuge for the local County Councils; a store for food supplies and weapons; and a place of dwelling for the British people. But alas, each could hold just 2'000 people - at a stretch.

To further defend the country, the Ministry of Defence began to develop in earnest anti-ballistic missile systems and a sophisticated, if small, 'Royal-Satellite-D-and-Defence-Network' (RSDDN) in an effort to reduce the potential quantity of explosive and atomic ordnance that could be detonated in or over the United Kingdom. This project, using data and research from the previous world conflict, allowed the British to develop a form of defence for the home islands that no other nation at the time could easily assail.

Britain entered the war two years after its beginning, when the Caliphate of Istanbul seized control over the Suez Canal and blocked all trade through it. This brought on the Second Suez Crisis, in which the UK, along with France, issued an ultimatum demanding demilitarisation of the Canal and Anglo-French administration for the duration of the conflict. This ultimatum was rejected by the Turks. Just three days later, the British entered the war on the Ethiopians' side.

It took just two days beyond that for the bombs to fall on London. The Royal Navy, from its bases on Cyprus, quickly swept the Caliphate Navy from the Mediterranean and issued a full blockade. Realising the war was lost, the Caliph of Istanbul, with the city under siege by an Anglo-Franco-Greek army, issued a decree demanding the destruction of the British Home Islands using nuclear weapons.

The anti-ballistic missile system and RSDDN were able to lessen and reduce the bombardment, but they were unable to halt the barrage entirely.

London, of course was hit, several times. Bristol, Oxford, Cambridge, Bimingham, Swansea, Edinburgh, Belfast and other cities were quickly destroyed - but not erased, as might have been without the defences.

At the same time, the Government and the Royal Family fled to a hidden bunker beneath Dartmoor. The County Councils and some few of the population were able to escape below ground also, bought time by the UK defences. Many fled to the countryside, into the hills, the downs and the forests. Some built new communities, others fell into barbarism.

Whatever the case, by the end of the nuclear exchange, the UK and its Empire no longer existed. The British Isles were in ruins.

About 200 years later, the Government, which had, by this time, developed into an Oligarchy, emerged from its bunker. The world had changed, and these people, who had never seen the light of day, knew little of how to survive beyond the confines of the Shelter. Nevertheless, they began the process of rebuilding.

They broadcast a radio message approximately one year after the 'Emerging' attempting to contact other survivors above or below ground.

It worked.

The descendants of the surviving civilised population gradually emerged from the Shelters and the wilderness, beginning to rebuild. Away from the major cities, much of the infrastructure remained in the smaller settlements - some were even used as habitation for scattered tribal groups. Over the course of the decade, the population began to establish contact with one another and form new groups.

The Royal Family, which had regained nothing of its power nor lost it to the new Oligarchy, emerged with the Government and returned to the destroyed London, where a few buildings had been reconstructed as a new base for the capital. Aptly, a large structure had been put together in the ruins of the Houses of Parliament for the meeting of government. A new 'United Kingdom' was proclaimed.

Many years past, and the peoples of England, Wales and Scotland began to reform themselves as a single, disjointed structure. Many groups, particularly outside of England, rejected the attempts by the central government to establish control.

By around 2245, London (now with a sizeable settlement along the north bank of the Thames, primarily around the Houses of Parliament) had gained direct control over the counties of Greater London, Essex, Surrey, Suffolk and Kent, and wielded rather less direct power over most of the Midlands, East Anglia, and the rest of the South East. The Government claimed overlordship over the entirety of the British Isles, and many groups were happy to accept this in return for the trade in sophisticated technology, which remained largely in the control of London.

During the next decade, 'The United Kingdom' went on the path of conquest, both in a military sense and in a diplomatic sense. The 'Great Restoration' began with the 'Anchluss' of the Riding of Yorkshire to the Kingdom in 2248, and the subsequent integration of the State of Lancashire after a short and bitter battle.

The South West was harder to subdue. A pirate Cornish state had subjugated the populations of Devon, Dorset and southern Somerset under a self-proclaimed 'Celtic Chiefdom'. The 'British' were welcomed as liberators by the oppressed English people under Cornish rule. A swift victory was achieved in a tentative alliance with the 'Republic of Bristol', which controlled Gloucestershire and northern Somerset. By 2254, the entirety of the southwest was under British control, or allied to the Kingdom, with only part of Cornwall under siege and resisting.

Concerned about renewed English dominance of the island, various Welsh and Scottish tribes and chiefdoms allied and simultaneously invaded the new Kingdom, now encompassing almost all of England. But they were overmatched in the face of superior technology - deliberately kept only in the hands of the central government - and in 2257, a massive counter-attack was launched into Wales, quickly overcoming any resistance and annexing the various (and squabbling) states into the Kingdom.

During and after this period, contact was made with some of the Celtic tribes of Ireland. It was revealed that the island had collapsed into complete anarchy, with no centralised form of government and no recognisable nation-states with which to negotiate. The British government decided to end the war with the Scottish clans before attempting any overseas expansion.

This war ended with the destruction of the 'Principality of Aberdeen' and the swearing of fealty and annexation by the Scottish Highland Clans. The government in a now largely rebuilt (though obviously still much smaller) London declared a new 'Kingdom of Great Britain', pending the potential absorption of Ireland.

The period of Expansion came to an end, and the Kingdom instead turned to internal matters and the establishment of a new Royal Navy, to defend the islands. All holdouts ultimately surrendered, including Cornwall. British policy turned in the 2260s to the re-establishment of contact with Gibraltar and intervention in Irish affairs.

The 2270s saw the establishment of British client states in Ireland, the further integration of the formerly restive Welsh and Scots, and the founding of trading posts in Iceland.

Which brings the Kingdom to 2280, and the aims of the British to reestablish hegemony over Ireland, the re-entering into European politics, and expeditions to the New World.

Main Race:
85% English
10% Celtic
5% Other

Main Religion: Anglicanism
Other: Great Britain has subdued the Scots and Welsh by exiling rebellious leaders and 'educating' children into supporting the Kingdom. There is much positive sentiment among the British population overall concerning the unified state, partly due to the much higher survival rate of the English over the Celts. The island of Great Britain is now populated by over 85% English compared to just 10% Celtic - although an anomaly is in Cornwall, where there has been a Celtic population explosion that roughly equals the English population there.

@Iluvatar

Just one nitpick, I stated that the earliest you can be out of the Bunker is 2260, other then that it is great.
If you'd like, you can have contact still happen, with some expeditions outside of the bunker, but the only date that they officially allowed settling and recolonization of Britain can be from 2260 to 2275.

[PerseusArchean]

So was America even bombed at all?

[EveryMemeAKing]

So was America even bombed at all?

@PerseusArchean

Yes, the whole world was, it would just take me hours writing in how everyone was bombed.
Like I said in the timeline, nearly every nation chose a side, and in the original RP the Americas where divided, so we can assume that the different Americas bombed each other.

[Willy Vereb]

<Snipped quote by Iluvatar>

Just one nitpick, I stated that the earliest you can be out of the Bunker is 2260, other then that it is great.

@MetalLover

Why? There's nothing really which truly neccessiates dormancy for this long.
Sure, even with clean nukes there are issues like a potential ice age from the dust generated by massed us of kinetic rod orbital weapons. Somebody can be also deliberately asshole by using dirty nukes to fuck their enemy over. But in that case if they want they can make that part uninhabitable for even millions of years.

Pardon me if you perceive this as nitpicking but I just give you ideas. I can understand that you don't wish to give people unfair advantage by starting sooner but perhaps there's no such gain to begin with. A nation with longer surface-dwelling history can be as good as the others. Or even worse. The don't be OP ruling applies on them regardless.

[EveryMemeAKing]

<Snipped quote by MetalLover>Why? There's nothing really which truly neccessiates dormancy for this long.
Sure, even with clean nukes there are issues like a potential ice age from the dust generated by massed us of kinetic rod orbital weapons. Somebody can be also deliberately asshole by using dirty nukes to fuck their enemy over. But in that case if they want they can make that part uninhabitable for even millions of years.

Pardon me if you perceive this as nitpicking but I just give you ideas. I can understand that you don't wish to give people unfair advantage by starting sooner but perhaps there's no such gain to begin with. A nation with longer surface-dwelling history can be as good as the others. Or even worse. The don't be OP ruling applies on them regardless.

@Willy Vereb

You have a point and it doesn't really affect @Iluvatar app by making him stronger then the rest.
Imperial GM Decree, you do not have to arrive out of the bunker in 2260, but it can't be earlier then 2220.

[Romero]

Can I please make a claim on the UK? I'll get my app up later

[EveryMemeAKing]

Can I please make a claim on the UK? I'll get my app up later

@Romero

Someone already claimed it, though Ireland is open, though Iluvatar plans on eventually eating it with his British nation, so it could be an interesting dynamic with you trying to defend it.

[Iluvatar]

<Snipped quote by Willy Vereb>

You have a point and it doesn't really affect @Iluvatar app by making him stronger then the rest.
Imperial GM Decree, you do not have to arrive out of the bunker in 2260, but it can't be earlier then 2220.

@MetalLover

Ah, good. Glad about that.

I just though it would take a while for the Reconquista of Scotland and so forth to be finished :)

In your opinion, would the population of the Kingdom of Great Britain be large enough to begin establishing small communities in places like Newfoundland? A kind of new imperialistic age?

[Iluvatar]

<Snipped quote by Romero>

Someone already claimed it, though Ireland is open.

@MetalLover

Remember, no British control over Northern Ireland either.

[Iluvatar]

@Frengo

From your app, I assume Great Britain reunited much faster than France did/is. In that case, I'm sure a British declaration of protection over Normandy would help you out, especially if you allow us to station troops in your territory :)

Do you plan to reunite France, or stay an independent country? Either way, we can go and colonise stuff together if you like.

[EveryMemeAKing]

<Snipped quote by MetalLover>

Ah, good. Glad about that.

I just though it would take a while for the Reconquista of Scotland and so forth to be finished :)

In your opinion, would the population of the Kingdom of Great Britain be large enough to begin establishing small communities in places like Newfoundland? A kind of new imperialistic age?

@Iluvatar

I'd be fine with it, if you managed to get Gibraltar then you'd most likely be able to take Newfoundland.

[Frengo]

@Frengo

From your app, I assume Great Britain reunited much faster than France did/is. In that case, I'm sure a British declaration of protection over Normandy would help you out, especially if you allow us to station troops in your territory :)

Do you plan to reunite France, or stay an independent country? Either way, we can go and colonise stuff together if you like.

@Iluvatar

Yeah my plan was for Britain to have got its stuff together a lot sooner, and whilst France remains a patchwork quilt of warring factions, the UK is a united powerhouse of tea drinking kick ass. I'll adjust the history accordingly.

My thinking is that Normandy "invited" Britain to help them, in return for food etc, but the British were probably more delighted with an open invitation to expand their influence across the channel. I intend for Normandy to branch out into France, but for its reliance on British support to render it a kind of puppet-state that may become its own regional power later on.

So the Norman and British militaries would bear many resemblances, with the French probably being British trained and with the bulk of their hardware being of British origin. Kind of like how Iraq is to America, but not as messy and more collected.

However, the politics will vary greatly, which may or may not leave room for intermittent tension between the two powers throughout.

I dunno, I'm open to anything really. I could even have it that they've modeled their government on the British, if that fits better.

[EveryMemeAKing]

Also, @Iluvatar, you're accepted, post your app in the CS

[Romero]

Italy still available for some holy conquest?

[EveryMemeAKing]

Italy still available for some holy conquest?

@Romero

Yep.