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Vilageidiotx Jacobin of All Trades
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3 yrs ago
Utopian would be the word. It's way too much, way too quick, and way too vague. I do think that eventually we'll have a post-scarcity society, but it isn't something that'll happen in ten years. From the American Revolution to now, society doesn't just accept it's evolution, it has to be dragged in baby steps kicking and screaming into the future.
Vilageidiotx Jacobin of All Trades
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3 yrs ago
That is what I mean by Utopian. A Utopian plan is something that is physically possible - socialism, communism, anarchism, virtuous republicanism - these things are all possible if everyone adheres to their tenants perfectly. The problem is that people don't adhere to the tenants of a philosophy, and it becomes necessary to shape a philosophy around the people themselves. This line...
...should be see as your own admission that this plan isn't possible in the scope you are requesting. We might get there, but it'll take multiple generations at best. Kicking and screaming. That's the only way anything ever happens.
In the case of a smartphone, you're talking about something that is sold on it's function, and requires absolutely no other commitment from the average person then their paying for their smart phone. The smartphone isn't synergistic - it's a product.
Each of the presented solutions are synergistic, and would accelerate their combined global spread. By implementing them simultaneously, and recruiting the millions of uneducated and unemployed
...should be see as your own admission that this plan isn't possible in the scope you are requesting. We might get there, but it'll take multiple generations at best. Kicking and screaming. That's the only way anything ever happens.
In the case of a smartphone, you're talking about something that is sold on it's function, and requires absolutely no other commitment from the average person then their paying for their smart phone. The smartphone isn't synergistic - it's a product.
NuttsnBolts Even in death, I still serve
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4 hrs ago
It'll never work.
Its too short, even as a generational change. Just look at racism and how far that has come from the slavery years. By rights every nationality (black, white, Asian, etc) should be at harmony but we still have neonazis, followers of the kkk and ISIS.
Now who is going to pay for all this? Who will govern all this build? My council still hasn't repaired our street sign that was hit by a car 2 weeks ago, yet we pay our rates even with the damaged sign lying on the ground. If you can't get an organisation like that to work efficiently, how can you get billions to flow in creating the perfect world.
But it'll never work out anyways cause humans are fucking stupid. How many environments have we destroyed and continue to destroy? How many more whales have to be killed for science? What about the aids medication that was jacked up to $500 per pill by the greedy CEO? We are greedy. We do what we want, we take what we want, and if we had the perfect world then I can guarantee the bikie gangs it we have here in Australia will feed drugs into it, extort money out of it, and help pull it down. Hell, we don't even need them when the people out west will say, "F*** off mate" as the continue to smoke, drive v8s, get drunk, and act like the trash they appear to be.
Its too short, even as a generational change. Just look at racism and how far that has come from the slavery years. By rights every nationality (black, white, Asian, etc) should be at harmony but we still have neonazis, followers of the kkk and ISIS.
Now who is going to pay for all this? Who will govern all this build? My council still hasn't repaired our street sign that was hit by a car 2 weeks ago, yet we pay our rates even with the damaged sign lying on the ground. If you can't get an organisation like that to work efficiently, how can you get billions to flow in creating the perfect world.
But it'll never work out anyways cause humans are fucking stupid. How many environments have we destroyed and continue to destroy? How many more whales have to be killed for science? What about the aids medication that was jacked up to $500 per pill by the greedy CEO? We are greedy. We do what we want, we take what we want, and if we had the perfect world then I can guarantee the bikie gangs it we have here in Australia will feed drugs into it, extort money out of it, and help pull it down. Hell, we don't even need them when the people out west will say, "F*** off mate" as the continue to smoke, drive v8s, get drunk, and act like the trash they appear to be.
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