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...I know it's not my fight and I'm a useless fuckwit noob who needs to shut up and GTFO and all, and I'll be getting right on that in a second...

But nobody finds it at all suspicious that Divinity is trying to get permission from the thread judge to summarize his opponent's actions, as well as his own, in a rather heatedly contested exchange?


Dazsos is welcome to do his own material for it or point out any points where he disagrees. I have enough experience with people (and combat/judging in general) to not take things from a singular perspective.
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Nonspecific, unofficial ruling (until I get the synopsis requested):

Divinity - Defining the upper limits of the scope of your magical abilities would be helpful, as it is difficult to ascertain the upper limit of the types of spells he would be able to pull off in some of his schools of magic. For example, what would be an example of a difficult, but still potentially feasible spell of his strongest school of magic (in the tier you are currently fighting in)?

Daz - You are already familiar with some of the issues I've had with Myron's abilities in the past. While you do better at including some of the specifics, there is some areas that you may want to define upper limits in your spells as well. Much of the last time I reviewed Myron stands in terms of areas where I am concerned. That, however, may be alleviated by clarifying the upper limits of Divinity and ensuring that yours are equal (either raised or lowered accordingly).

General - I think both of you are probably pushing into high tier (even just reading through just the bios before the disagreement started).

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@DLLNot so suspicious since it was both not my request, and I asked if I was supposed to be also summarizing Dazsos' posts because "I'm not sure if he'd rather do that part by himself." Dazsos made no complaint, sooooooo...... How is that suspicious?
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@Innuehmm, I haven't really tried to quantify it in that way, but it surely couldn't hurt, so sure. Spells given are only examples of something he could potentially do, not necessarily absolute spells and such.

Evocation: Since this takes a backseat only to perhaps 'guard science', I'd imagine he'd be able to manifest some adequately powered spells, if were officially labeling this fight 'low-high tier'. The most 'powerful' thing he could probably do is drop an incredibly charged bolt on someone, in terms of raw damage, but he has coated his weapons in plasma fields in the past as well if that helps. In terms of 'difficulty',it would really depend on the scope and size. Creating that lightning bolt could be as simple as giving the runaway ions a place to go after summoning cumulonimbus clouds. I can make it more complex by adding more components to the spell, which would increase casting time as well. Hope this is somewhat helpful, since I'm finding it difficult to sum up evocation with just a single example given its wide breadth.

Abjuration: His strongest school of magic. His 'ultimate' defense is actually one of only two spells ever committed to his memory,one of which is the rail gun spell, called the Kinetic Barrier. It absorbs all light, heat, and motion from any physical components around or near him. The tradeoff is he can't move while using the barrier(Since infinite inertia works both ways), and usually is bypassed by purely magical forces, or can only dampen them, depending on how the magic is molded. He's capable of more, other powerful things of course in this class, but KB is a very good base example.

Note: KB will only last a single action or turn unless Corban actively keeps it up.

Enchantment: The most i'd say he can do with this is create mid-level enchantments(on his own) like an ethereal acid that cuts magic and others like it, or can apply moderately powerful runes to objects, since his skill here is just above general, and not 'gifted'.

Transmutation(Edit): Another area in which corban is exceedingly talented. He is capable of changing or swapping properties of matter at will from the wind to the earth and all those in-between. The scope of this school of magic is based heavily on real world knowledge and chemistry outside of some common spells like 'aqua lung' or 'alter appearance', and that is(to me) the only limiter on it outside of common sense. As an example of one of the more 'powerful' transmutations Corban's done, is transmute a high energy plasma beam(particularly the spell Giga Flare) into transuranium dust.

Hopefully this sheds some light on it.
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Nihil rune - Post 2 - Post 2

Dividing barrier - post 4 - post 6

Mask summon - post 4 - post 6(had to recast due to interrupt)

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Sublimation Turbine - post 3 - post 3

Railgun - post 3 - post 5(and 7 due to interrupt)

Cryo-clone - post 5 - post 9

There were some spell-like abilities and effects being thrown around, but not actual spells, and thus haven't been included. Among them are Dazsos' control over his books hardness, and Ishtalle's sight co-op.
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@Divinity

I'd classify Corban as pressing fairly solidly into the low end of high tier (rather than mid), just as a note. The one that jumps out at me the most is the Enchantment skill. Your description for the level of potency you have it is something beyond mid tier and definitely beyond something I would expect for someone that isn't fond of it. It may be providing him a bit too much flexibility if that is the case.

@Dazsos

Some of your things could use more clarification on how they actually work (how Element and a few others operates currently pushes your tier higher, as well as a few other spells generally being more potent than I'd say for mid).

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I think a lot of the problem is that there is difficulty in pitting a character that has less constraints on their skills vs one that doesn't have them. The runes may be making it difficult for Myron to easily adapt to certain situations vs the flexibility of Corban's spellcasting.

However, I do think for the most part the time creating the spells (Unless there is disagreement or something I'm missing) has been generally appropriate.

Is there anything specific I need to look at? @Divinity@Dazsos You may want to request any additional clarification from each other needed in order to complete the fight. I don't think there is a current dispute about the spells already used and the issue was more needing clarification on terms of where the characters sit in terms of powers.
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@InnuePerfectly reasonable. I'm willing to limit his personal knowledge of enchantment to just general if that helps. Ishtalle does excel in it, and I suppose it does unbalance the RP to have them both be skilled in that area.

Myself personally, have no qualms with anything specific at this point in terms of the events IC. My main issue was to just contest his claims made in pm's and such. I'd actually like the fight to continue post haste @Dazsos!
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@DivinityYou really don't like describing things, do you?

You leave out the in-depth aspects of both Myron's mask, and Corban's Cryo-clone. Also 'one post, two post' is not the most accurate depiction of time. My issues start at the beginning of Corban and Myron's 'third spells' listed in Divinity's synopsis: Post 5 and on.

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Myron did not have to recast his creation (not a summon), it's stated he began after being pushed back. Several spells were used to create the mask, however most are simple markings that are quick to make with the quill at close range. Water runes in the mouth. Nihil in one eye, envision in the other. An adamant mark to fortify shape. Of all these runes, the most complex would've been Beacon of Nihil. I stated that it'd take time for Myron to finish the mask, which gave it an indefinite cast time depending on Corban's next move.

The cryo-clone, by my assumption, was summoned in post 5, and is described as being easily controlled as long as Corban's feet were planted. (But it was running at high speeds, so there would be frequent times where it's own feet wouldn't be grounded, I don't know if this is important.) It's a combination of an earth magic exterior, a hidden explosive barrier that constantly expels kinetic energy, a hyper-freezing area of effect, and the application of illusory principles. It's mentioned that channeled anti-magic was applied to the clone's sword to attack the barrier with, this spell wasn't mentioned in the above synopsis, but also isn't listed as being passive in the profile unless applied. Corban would have to find a way to evoke these complex spells inside of his clone whilst concentrating on digging rapidly underground at an equal pace. It's stated he also coats himself in a diamond skin while underground, and the word barrier was also mentioned, if he upped another barrier on himself, I'm counting eight spells/actions used after the railgun. (Not including constantly remote controlling the golem, or firing of the sword & sheath.)

Myron's count is at 5 spells/actions. 4 written runes are used along motion control over his water & book, though it's stated that Myron is gifted at concentrating control magic on multiple things at once, this is more like a physical action for him.

This would have all taken place within the amount of time it'd take Corban to move 100ft. No exact timeframe is mentioned, however it's stated that the clone moved at baffling speeds.

EDIT: This isn't as much of a complaint as it is pointing out what is not being described by Divinity.

Myron's capable of pushing in to high tier, like Innue said, but I was keeping his movements stalled and some of his spells locked to coincide with the idea it was a mid-tier fight initially. I gave a free hit to Corban with this mindset, whereas in a high tier match, Myron would've easily erected that barrier in time, whilst concocting several other spells as well.

On another note, I'm not sure cause it's not fully explained. Did Corban coat himself in diamond and erect a barrier around himself before shooting Ishtalle at Myron? Or just diamond skin?
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@DazsosShe wasn't asking me to describe anything, simply chronicle where the spells were used. I also was following the rubric she gave.

Corban's clone was running fast, but the act of running never really has both feet off the ground, because that would probably end with a nasty faceplant. Even if they did by some fractional amount of time ever actually both be off the ground, gravity would bring them back down just as quickly, and thus suffer very little lag or connection speed. You're also over-exaggerating the scope of his cryo-clone. The kinetic dispersal/absorption is what gives it the 'freezing' effect. No kinetic energy means no excited particles. No excited particles means no heat. Lack of heat=cold. The two effects are quite the same, rather than entirely separate components.The clone, and its spell-sabot were summoned before he started running toward you as well. So this isn't all happening at once, or in quite the tiny time-frame you think.

I'm not entirely sure how you'd explain away moving fast enough without superhuman physiology(and you specifically stated he wasn't, though id gladly allow that to be changed for balancing) to summon that barrier in time to catch a rail gun packing about 10k joules of force behind it, even under high tier stipulations if the barrier is based on active activation, which it seems to be.

Corban didn't attack your barrier with an antimagic sword. He attacked it with the spear-drill he used to stop your nihil rune earlier, which was distinctly stated as being abjurative and antimagical in nature.

Corban is just surrounded in a diamond 'shell', by the way. No extra barrier involved. Everything was explained exactly as it happened. The term barrier simply replies to his diamond shell, because that's what it is; a barrier o_o

Edit: He doesn't really need to 'dig' through anything. His mastery over earth could easily have him move within and part it around him into canals with no issue. He is moving just slower than the clone however, but not by enough to be significant.

Edit 2: Note: The antimagic drill is no longer active as of the clone being destroyed.

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I don't see any use arguing your point beyond saying... no, you're wrong... running does require both feet frequently be lifted off the ground. Try it for yourself.

If the clone is explained as having the properties of a metamagical hyper-cryogenic fluid, then it is practically high powered ice magic, with kinetic control added in. Two things. Kinetic absorption would be a secondary component if the above is true, which it is, I'm quoting your post... So I'm definitely not over-exaggerating the scope of this ability, it's very complex! If it were just ice magic, I don't see why Myron should be unable to manipulate it anymore, considering he's masterful at controlling such a substance, and he does so magically, not through kinetic force. If it's also kinetically controlled, then should ensue a battle between both character's abilities to forcefully manipulate the ice's movements and add or continue subtracting the kinetic force... in which Myron should win, his skill in aquamancy is beyond Corban's. I would agree that: The explosion should deny him immediate access, such as using it in his next post. But I want to know for future reference before I get there.

Myron is listed as being an Esti, not a human, but I was holding off on actually using the powers of that race because... well, because I didn't list them in my profile, and that's what I personally deem acceptable. Given the circumstances, I very well may adapt his true form in to this battle, it'll surely balance their fight.

As for the shell... well... many things can constitute as a barrier. A wall of rocks, etc, etc. But Corban specializes in magical barriers, so differentiating between types is of my absolute concern, in order for my posts to be accurate.

I'll post either tonight or tomorrow, since most things are cleared up now for me, and control over Myron's liquid isn't an immediate issue. When it is, I may bring back this debate, unless it's resolved sooner.
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I don't see any use arguing your point beyond saying... no, you're wrong... running does require both feet frequently be lifted off the ground. Try it for yourself.


As a cross-country runner, I can attest that it actually doesn't. It's perfectly possible to run with one foot always on the ground... just not very fast. You're half right, in that quick running does require airtime. Here's an example of proper sprinting form for reference:

youtube.com/watch?v=PH-3cHxXAK0
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As a cross-country runner, I can attest that it actually doesn't. It's perfectly possible to run with one foot always on the ground... just not very fast. You're half right, in that quick running does require airtime. Here's an example of proper sprinting form for reference:

youtube.com/watch?v=PH-3cHxXAK0


Slowly running? Isn't that called jogging?
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@DazsosIt being 'cryogenic' is a direct result of it robbing kinetic energy, which like I said before makes the 'ice' part of the equation a byproduct of the kinetic drain. I'd really, really appreciate it if you would stop trying to tell me how my spells work. You're doing exactly what I said earlier; ignoring my explanations and just reverting to your previous argument ignoring all the things said by me previously.

As for the air time, I already expounded on that. Any break in his feet from earth would be so negligible as to hardly, if at all effect the spell-connection. Now if he jumped? Different. If he was knocked off his feet? Different. But running has his feet apart from earth for literally fractions of a second at a time.

'cuz magic' is not at all a proper defense for you being able to control the ice. How can the magic move the ice, physically, if it can't amass any kinetic energy? Magic is also still energy, which means it still at least partially functions under similar laws to conventional physics. It can't is the answer, unless you give me a very, very detailed explanation of how he'd totally ignore the common laws of conservation of energy. If you notice all my spells function alongside physics, pushing its limits but never operating wholly outside of them.

Edit: the spell is a type of ice spell. It's categorized as 'ice' because it both creates ice and 'freezes' things with its kinetic drain. It being 'ice' magic is not a reason for you to be able to control it. That ignores its properties and the semantics and logistics behind it entirely.
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@DivinityI'mma be savage here. 'Cuz magic' is the story of your character's skillset.

Pollen just stated that running fast requires airtime, and from the video she showed... over half the time is airtime. Corban's clone is running exceptionally fast, this should apply to him. I wasn't originally arguing against this, but you're flicking my nose enough. I have all the material necessary to say Corban's control over his clone would be very lagged. I'll even leave it up to Innue to decide if this should or shouldn't be effective.

You're describing the effects of your spells as if they're perfect, when you're explaining how they'd effect my spells. It isn't up to you, and just you, so stop acting like my nit-picking is unwarranted, or like you're the judge of this roleplay.

The clone exploded with a cryogenic liquid. LIQUID. This means it had some physical bulk being expunged, but how would that liquid nullify a small pool's worth of water, when there's less cryogenic liquid than there is icicles? Shouldn't it just freeze the first layer or two of Myron's ice it comes in contact with? Not an entire 30ft radius it doesn't have direct access to? Conveniently including a book which is pretty far away from the explosion? That silver water is infused with Myron's blood, it acts like an extension of his own body, he's able to move it on demand. If there's no kinetic energy present, he need only add some! And if you say 'well the liquid is magical..' So is Myron's water. A novice in ice magic should not, cannot overpower a master, it's even stated in Myron's profile that only other more powerful blood-mages can control his water. Corban is no blood-mage, you're overstepping your boundaries here. I agreed that the effects may persist for a single post, now I feel like taking that back.

Obviously, this is a heated argument, and I've been in enough to understand what's gonna' go down. See, you've been condescending towards me, and thus I've shown mutual respect, and acted like a sarcastic jerk to you. Even if I'm right, I'm sure you won't want to have to agree with a dingus like me. And I'm not going to want to agree with you, because we don't see eye to eye, and I don't trust the way you describe things.

Let's leave it to a judge. A real judge. If @Innue says I'm wrong, he'd do so without belittling me, and thus I'd rather read it from him.

EDIT: Whatever the case, I did say I'd post soon, and allow the cryogenic liquid to enact its effects for one turn. Myron won't be able to ascertain his control over it while being distracted by melee combat. I like to stay true to my words.

On another note. The adamant rune practically enchants Myron's ice in to a similar fashion as that cryogenic blast, in which it is void of melting, and its particles show no kinetic movement. Myron controls his ice fine after this enchantment.
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@DazsosOho, savage you say? Game on.

First of all, I'm more than willing to take my clone to court. Innue is free to judge. I've laid my arguments out plainly. Secondly, I'm describing the interactions between our spells based on physics principles and laws. I'm not applying anything to your spells that shouldn't be there within the context of my posts.

A cryogenic LIQUID, yes. A liquid that absorbs kinetic energy. Your argument is still flawed severely. Your ice does not need to have kinetic energy. And the answer to your 'cuz magic' statement is, no, it wouldn't rob your control because it's magical, it'd rob your control because it would absorb any kinetic energy you apply to it. Just saying you'll 'add kinetic energy' to it would not logically work given the nature of my spell. It would absorb any kinetic energy applied and the ice would remain in the same immoveable state. I have been anything but 'cuz magic', buddy.

As for its wide radius? There were easily over 15 gallons of liquid in that body. Quite enough to cover the distance I've mentioned. You say you want to leave this to a judge as well? Perfectly fine by me.

You being able to control your ice that 'has no kinetic movement' is an oversight of physics on your part, because it makes no sense, unless you're 'pushing' it with telekinetic control. Ice still can move, examples being ice bergs. Its entirely different if the ice was unable to even receive kinetic energy, let alone generate it. We are clearly abiding by entirely different magic systems. It would probably be best to leave it to innue.

If you still want to post that's fine, but mine will probably be postponed until @Innue makes her judgments.

Edit: I had also stopped any 'condescending' quips after innue made her judgment. Everything after that was pure discussion. If it didn't translate via text well, that's just sorta' how text is.
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Absolute control over kinetic energy? In an ice spell? This is definitely a very high tier ice spell, and based on how instantaneous its effects are, and how they can travel straight through physical things. I don't see this spell having a creation time of one post instantly after the effects of another spell's activation. And by one post, I mean... a second, maybe two? It's earth magic, it's extremely high level ice magic, (beyond what I think Corban is capable of.) it's remote controlled, it takes on the exact shape of him in the fraction of an instant needed for him to actually make it look like no movements were had summoning it. It's OP, it's OP, dude, my arguments are all under the pretense that it isn't OP, but you just keep erecting that opnis. Get that opnis out of my face.

Although I still disagree with the absoluteness of kinetic absorption, I've argued before, and mainly persisted on the cast time of such a spell. It took Myron about that much time to make his water look like a happy face. My above argument stands, I won't reiterate.

Next up, if it absorbs all kinetic energy, I don't see it allowing the clone to even move. Also the phrase absorbs wasn't mentioned in your post, I don't like how you use different descriptive words for your spells between the IC and OOC. What stopped you from saying 'oh the radius is actually 80 feet.' That would have been an instahit, it would've frozen Myron in time and won you the fight right away. All kinetic energy is connected, so what's stopping this spell from just, you know... freezing time itself? You saying it doesn't? Thirty shoes?... As logical as you say it is, I just don't agree.

This is just a lack of agreement on one thing.

It's a bunch of nope on my behalf.

Your one description of a spell at the peak of Corban's prowess with evocation was a lightning bolt. This is way above that.
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Do you have any idea how much energy is in a lightning bolt? Are you aware a lightning bolt can be as hot as the surface of the sun? This spell has not even approached that level. And now you're building theoretical arguments? It couldn't expand 80 feet because that much liquid couldn't logically fit in a single clone. I also recall in pm's I asked for specifics on regards to where your book and positioning was in relation to Corban, and you said the book was about 12 feet off to either left or right, and corban was already fairly close to you when you let the water out, so your book would be well within that thirty foot range, given positioning.

Innue has already said she is fine with my casting times, unless I'm misreading her previous judgment. So once again im leaving that to her.

The post stated it 'would draw all the kinetic energy away'. Whether you interpret that as absorbing or not doesn't matter because the end result would still not alter the fact that it would not be able to receive or build kinetic energy, because both explanations have the same effect, the ice being immovable.

And what do you mean 'all kinetic energy is connected'? That, on a surface level is untrue. The liquid can't draw away kinetic energy outside of a few inches from its physical components area. That's why the liquid is there at all, to also serve as an outliner for its range. It doesn't stop time because it doesn't effect time at all. Time is a dimensional abstraction, and this spell is not functioning anywhere near that level.

His movements were also hidden behind a diamond storm. That's how he did it without giving himself away. Keep on ignoring clear logical flaws in your arguments, it makes picking them apart far easier. Complain about 'opnis' all you want. There is nothing op about it and this is another perfect example of you backdating and pedaling. What makes you think corban is not highly skilled with ice magic? I already explained twice now ice is an interesting crystal, and on top of that ice magic falls under his primary vocation of evocation. Talk about repeating things! He is quite skilled in ice magic, buddy.

But we're leaving this to Innue, right? With that in mind, I am removing myself from the discussion until her judgment is made.

Edit: And in what, like two posts you summoned an absolute barrier of 'division', which stopped essentially any conceivable attack outside of perhaps gravity. So our power to preps ratio is clearly out of whack.

Edit 2: I also don't find the cryo spell to be that powerful. It accomplishes the exact same thing as the spell 'zone of stop', and functions on a plane right above 'zone of slow', which I'd say are pretty average-level spells. And I already said we could put a post count on the time that the liquid will remain active. I'm not quite comfortable with one post, but if that's what it takes to get this ball rolling again then fine.
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I had an epiphany. I was wrong. (No not about the cast time stuff, nor the physics, I'd drag that argument with me to the grave.) I was wrong in the way I approached the situation. Anger drove me to try and pry your brain apart, because I felt the faintest amount of disrespect, and believed that by one-upping you with remarks, things would be even Steven. Well they are, but now we both look like howling baboons with chemistry books.

Innue shouldn't be a tool for me to use against you. Thing is, I know him, and he's a rather busy person. I asked him to be the judge because although he's a friend, I'm sure he'd be fair, and more than anything he'd want to see my win-streak come to an end. Surely he doesn't have the time to read all of this banter.

Myron and Corban's capabilities have been slanted since the beginning, but that's not your fault. I've been nerfing my own character, when he's fully capable of being used on the same high tier. Trying to drag your character to his level has taken too much time and insult, when really, I could've just done the opposite. I came in to this fight expecting it was mid-tier, but also prepared to adjust, I should've.

So... I'm sorry for lashing out at you. I still think you're an asshole, but I'm positive I'm one, too.

Equal respect is my motto, and I hoped to drag you to my level. It didn't occur to me that you might be more willing to have Myron's prowess boosted to even the odds. You mentioned it, but I was still furious over the current power gap. Maybe you wanted a really epic, fast paced magic battle with tons of spells flying around? In mid-tier, I don't see any way for Corban to dodge a full-powered disintigration ray in such a light-speed instant; But in high tier, there'd be a chance, if done right. I have no real qualms with such powered battles, as long as I get to play half the part.

Since there are also hidden abilities in Myron's profile, which I wasn't using before, I doubt you'd mind me proposing them, since I forcefully made you list a few synopsis of Corban's own bracketed magics?

P.S: Although I'm apologizing now, and actually willing to ignore my prior claims, this doesn't mean I won't try and chew you out later. I'm still quite anal about this combat stuff.

Also, IC you stated the cryobomb could capture the book, which is pretty indefinite, and I still don't think its effects should expunge at light speeds. Ice magic is usually slower than that. I took the leisure to accept the side of this coin-flip in my favor. Any conflicts that it would freeze the book, while its being relocated, will force me to quicken the postponed date of the argument we've been having. I don't know how important that is to you, but it's my offer. And again, no, I'm not dropping it because I feel wrong about my claims, I just don't want to lose sleep over something so menial, just because I can't let something go.
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@DazsosHey I'm not an asshole! Pissant is far more accurate xD. In any case, I'm not too proud to admit I was just a little more than volatile back there as well, and id like it to be known that the feelings your expressing are exactly mutual. I have the utmost faith and commitment in my actions, and I am willing to get as boringly scientific as it takes if we will be involving judges. I still think ny physics argument is an incredibly fair one.

As for 'blocking full powered energy beams', how is that either high powered or high tier? The attack had no preps and Corban specializes in defense. My defense also was appropriate for the situation. If you really want to get technical, I put a lot more time and effort into my defense than you're first attack, which you just flung at me. That isn't even taking the distance between us into account and the fact no speed or comparable speed was given for the beam, so I assumed it wasn't moving that fast. I vehemently still am of the school of thought that 'ease' is not a factor in determining high tier and low tier, but scope and power.

I also don't get where you're getting all these measurement and data points. Exactly what source states that ice magic is inherently slow? And it isn't working at light-speed at all. It's just doing what spells that are activated do; activating upon release. The thing being activated just so happens to be a kinetic drain, which again I see no reason for having to be slow or any less fast than it is.

About the book, I said it could capture it, and not did capture it, because that would be autoing. Based on your own descriptions, the book is well within the blast radius, and blasts cover ground quickly. I'm not saying it can't be moved. I'm just saying you'd need a convenient, and good argument for relocating it fast enough to satisfy me, because to just let it go would also be completely ignoring a tactical move on my part that I spent a loving amount of time crafting. I'm not going to be an asshole about it if you do decide to try to have it escape, but if I am not satisfied we probably will need Innue to judge again to avoid further infighting. I really dont like it.

Edit: Argument redacted. I'll just roll with the punches in the name of fun. I am tired of arguing. So from hereon I will not be complaining unless it is something highly unbalanced or a match-deciding oversight or something.
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@Innue Judge request anulled. I'll just be continuing.
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