Alexei

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As for your snide comment there about me needing ghost writers, its cute. I won't need help to crush you.

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Oh we done thrown the gauntlet down now. Clearly the only way to settle this dispute is with a T1 fight. I am on offer as a completely impartial and respectable judge who will make entirely reasonable calls, of course.

@Normie

Seems I have an offer. Thanks Norm.

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Both of those folks are friends of yours. Therefore I cannot trust them to be unbiased. I shall see if one of my number shall judge in tandem with one of your judges.

Shuzoku, Eiji

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@Alexei

I've provided accurate, measurable comparisons, and yes, many martial artists can break cinderblock.

@Doc Doctor

No, no you didn't save for Kull's strength. Btw Robert E. Howard is disappointed in you. You gave me no accurate measurements of his reaction speed except that of a professional boxer. The thing with that is you provide no average time of reaction. Reaction time also varies per boxer, even those in the same weight class.

@Alexei

In no way am I lying, just because you say I'm lying. I provided proof, screenies, quotes, and videos to back up my argument. You just ignore that and declare me wrong with no backboard to support those bullets. I'm not shenanigans, you're just full of sh*t. I demonstrated what boxers are capable of with something called evidence. We like to use evidence around here, and not straw man arguments. You're purposefully vague on your points because you know I was factually more specific about physical abilities than my opponent, and you can think of no other way out of this hole you dug for yourself. Go to Google. Look up the question... "How hard can a boxer punch?", or, "How fast can a boxer move?", or "How fast can a boxer react?"
Now line up that result with someone from Kull's weight class. That wasn't so hard, was it?

@Doc Doctor

You are. You have stated your profile is more detailed. Only strength has a solid definition. Everything else is negligible. Videos do nothing, if you don't have a solid reaction time stated in your profile, I could easily state you have the slowest reactions from a specifically chosen boxer and post a fucking video as evidence, and seeing how you like to play, I would have no qualms scamming you like that if I lacked my moral standard.

Boy, I did provide proof, you actually did for me. In your profile. I already made my case. Provide quantifiable measurments of his reaction speed. Cause AS I HAVE STATED MULTIPLE TIMES, you are vague severely about his reaction speed. You have only been detailed on one point. His strength that's it.

Again, you provided what boxers are capable of, a general idea. Vague. What. Is. The. Actual. Time. Of. His. Reaction? Multiple boxers have different rates of reaction. So by continuing to be a fucking idiot and posting videos of different boxers, you are showing that your reaction time is vague for the soul reason that you can adapt it to a specific opponent. That, my friend, metagaming. Just like how your character doesn't just react, but literally predicts every move his character made. Which is using OOC info IC. Also metagaming. The evidence is in every single one of your posts in this fight.

Lol. You use strawman incorrectly. That's cute.

I have googled all of those, and the answer varies from boxer to boxer. If you don't have a hard number listed for it like you do for Kull's strength, I could easily make it mean what I want it to.

@Alexei

Mmhmm. There are definable limits there. It's quantifiable. Now go look up, "How fast do you have to be to be quick?"

@Doc Doctor

Not in your profile there isn't. How about you look up how not to be a shady turd? Cause from now on, Kull is the slowest boxer of his weight class until you define exactly how fast his reaction speed is with actual numbers.

@Alexei

Yeah, no. Not gonna happen.

Just don't get blindly involved in fights that don't concern you out of your own personal bias and you'll do fine here.

@Doc Doctor

Yeah. Its going to happen.

Hah! No. When I see scummy bullshit like you pulled I am going to call it out. Period. Don't talk to me about bias. Everyone here is biased. From you, to whatever judge on this site.

Best strap up your boots. We're going to throw hands real soon.

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@Alexei

You're repeating yourself. If I was the one being vague, then why am I supplying more information? You aren't making any sense. It's called 'Realistic Melee' for a reason. We use facts, references, and stats to define what a character can and cannot do. We don't leave it up to discretion, that's just asking for no limits fallacies.

There's nothing competitive about leaving physical stats in a RM fight at the door. Here's the thing. You arrived here three days ago with the competitor, you're very clearly her friend, and you're stating that "There's no such thing as bias" to try and convince me that you should judge this fight. Everything you say is a contradiction, I can scarcely fathom it.

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Okay. Now, taking that into account, look at your friend's CS.

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NO mentioned physical abilities, outside of simply stating that she's 'fast and agile'. How much bearing does that have in realistic terms when your character is 6'9" and 228 pounds? Not gonna go there. This is RM, but I won't try to dictate how she should write her own profile. That's why I didn't nag her to specify reach and lifting strength. Benefit of the doubt. It states her height, weight, and build, and that's it.
Now, look at my CS.

Captain Kull

Captain Arlgor Kull

Name: Arlgor Kull
Aliases: Cap'n Kull
Titles: Captain of the Crimson Guard
Age: 36
Gender: Male

Physical Attributes

Build: 5'7", 172 pounds, heavily muscled
Eyes: Dark Brown (close to black), overshadowed by sardonic eyebrows.
Hair: A black widow's peak, combed back
Skin Tone: Pale
Dominant Hand: Left
Tattoos/Scars/Piercings: Kull's eyes and mouth have distinct scarring from fistfights, permanent cauliflower ears, several white notches crisscross his chest and arms, presumably left by various bladed weapons. His right forearm is enircled by several deep tissue scars, from when he shoved his hand down a lion's esophagus.

Day To Day Attire: A full set of bronze armor (faceless helmet, pauldrons, breastplate, armguards, gauntlets, greaves, the works), a maroon cloak emblazoned with the insignia of a black bull, a sixteen pound double headed greataxe, a twenty-eight inch, pound-and-a-half gladius with chili powder in the scabbard worn on his right flank, a pair of gauche daggers at his waist, a pair strapped to his calves, and one on each flank. Six daggers in all. He's very fond of wearing crimson war paint, in tiger stripes across his face.



Abilities: Kull is a physical powerhouse, able to bench 500 and kick through cinderblock like styrofoam with his reinforced greaves. He once killed a lion with asphyxiation by ramming his fist down its throat. He has the reflexes of a professional boxer and the power to match, along with nearly three decades of experience as a manslayer.

Much, MUCH more detail. If you were even remotely honest, it wouldn't be me you were criticizing for vagueness but your own friend. Of course I know her style is different, she comes from a different site. I'm accommodating that, not trying to inform her she's doing everything wrong. She's not doing things wrong, just differently. Now please let an official judge this thread. Even if they aren't perfect, I should think a bit more subtlety is in order if you're going to try and cheat. I doubt your friend enjoys how you're making them look.

@Doc Doctor

I have to repeat myself because either you cannot comprehend my points, or are simply ignoring them. Which is fine, that's on you. Videos and huudurr reflexes like a boxer, is vague. Point blank. In fact, the only physical trait you define is his strength, mostly his lifting strength but crunching through a cinderblock is a good enough descriptor. That is where it ends and that is my point.

It gives no average speed on which your eyes can register the predicted movement and when the brain sends those signals. You might as well have just put fast and agile which already covers that. So no, you honestly haven't provided much more information.

Oh no friendo, I am criticizing you specifically because you are being dishonest you are straight up lying that you have any more detail in terms of reflex/speed than Trist. If it were up to me, I would force both of you to specifically state what that means. After a vigorous wedgieing.

In short let me summarize: You're reaction time is about as defined as Trist's speed and agility. The only advantage I would give you is the area of strength. Luckily it is not up to me, but I will make my opininion clear. You are shenanigans.

I will leave it at that.

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@Alexei

Also, do note that although your statements may hold bearing in a less competitive atmosphere, on this site and in ranked matches in particular, the profile is indeed God. If it isn't on the profile, you cannot use it. It also doesn't help that you arrived a few days ago at 'Tristwich's behest'. You have no history here and you're closely affiliated with the competitor. You're not qualified to give your opinion in this particular fight in light of those circumstances, only proven, unbiased judges are. I'm not saying you aren't trustworthy or knowledgeable in your areas of expertise, but this isn't a matter you should be involving yourself in.

@Doc Doctor

My statement holds bearing in a far more competative setting. Far far more. If that is indeed true, your ability is too vague to be of any use. If this is RM I think there needs to be some real hard numbers. Otherwise it creates a big hole in the integrity of the fight. I will state one thing here. There is no such thing as unbiased. In fact, I should be a judge in consideration to one from this site. To provide a balance against nepotism. Two judges are better than one. Actually you are stating I am untrustworthy which is fine. You are too. There needs to be a clear overhall of T1 rules. Abilities must have clear definition if this is the case.

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@Alexei

A professional boxer must meet certain criteria to achieve a significant degree of success in the ring. That includes slipping and weaving through punches, being able to predict an opponent's attacks based off of their body language.

@Doc Doctor

That's still not giving an actual reaction time. Just stating you can react quickly means little to nothing in T1. Even if you had a listed time, it would be a negligible thing. In T1 all characters are the same in physical capability.

If not, Eiji could literally tear through Kull. Given that his musculature is crafted from interwoven cabon nanotubes, called bucky paper. If we want to go through the fluff in a character sheet as if it means anything.

On the mention of reading body language, I find the concept laughable in the way I have seen it used. So far it might as well be highly predictive precognition. Kull has consistently dodged everything and in RM that is simply a deal breaker. Its unrealistic and to the point of metagaming.

@Alexei

It's not scarcely as vague as having no aforementioned reflexes listed, and in fight writing, the profile is God. If it isn't on the profile, you don't give it to someone anyways. I also specifically stated Kull's physical stats and provided examples of his prowess.

@Doc Doctor

No its actually worse than not stating it at all. It is incredibly vague, which alliws you to manipulate it as much as someone without it. Only difference is that you can point to your profile, and pretend it says anything of real value in regards to it. So no, in write fighting the profile is not God. It is only ever useful in regards to spells. Physical ability is pointless. Especially when your charactee can combine strength and speed with no trade off. Which isn't realistic.

You specifically stated a vague descriptor. Unless you want to lay out hard data its useless.

@Alexei

A few seconds is a long time in a fight. And, I suppose I should mention it a third time, it takes Kull less than a second for the switch up. It's not as complicated as you make it out to be. Fighters change stance mid-blows all the time. Want videos of that as well? Been awhile since I dug up the Machida fights.

@Doc Doctor

That's pretty fast. I have to call shenanigans. It might not be complicated but less than a second is also vague. How much less than a second? How fast is your opponent moving in relative to you? If these are not defined clearly by either side that is an exercise in uselessness. All the time yes, but irl there are certain factors at play not at all present in text based combat. Especially, as I stated, when such is ill defined.

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Reaction speed of a professional boxer is quite vague. That could really mean anything depending on the boxer. Secondly as much as that might be doable, those few seconds change a great deal and should influence your ability to react to an attack when adjusting stance and switching the weapon to a hand.

I also play by the rule that everyone is equal in terms of physical capability until you can get your opponent to state otherwise.

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The more actions one uses in a post, the less effective they become overall. As doing more effectively eats up more time as opposed to comitting to one or two. Attacking and moving doesn't eat up much time. But attacking, moving, and changing stance would.

Just my two cents.