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@Vilageidiotx
Still though, GMOs may save human civilization from becoming Fallout.

The modern world as we know it would still be fucked though as the sole super power of the world becomes Brazil by default.
I think that people freaking out about current events need to have some perspective.

Assaults on the USA's freeness have happened time and time again, be it Jackson, Nixon, Wilson, the Bushes etc and have been carried out by people much, much smarter and much, much more politically capable than 45. Nixon had a personal crony appointed to the FBI and for an election sabatoged peace talks while actively spying on US citizens. He also was much much more popular than Trump ever war, winning a landslide in 1972 and filling half the supreme court with very right wing appointees. Yet despite that, Roe V Wade happened under his watch and despite having so much time to rid of Roe, the right never was able to even as Roe had not nearly as much precedent as it does now. It is not even clear if Gorsuch would dare overturn it. Or if the politicos even want to overturn it.

In the 1990's, a time of suppossed nostalgia and american greatness which is claimed to be more stable than today Yeltsin nearly caused WW3 while Drunk, we nearly got into a war with China over Taiwan and a genocide happened in Europe. The 2000's weren't much better.

I think it is safe to say that political instability is the NORM, not stability. A caligula with nukes is scary, yes, but they have existed before be it when fucking Mao (who believed nukes could be used tactically) had nukes and nearly started a war with the USSR or when we let a aging man with dementia have nukes for five years straight.

Nuclear war is viewed as a inevitable apocalypse, I question this since they said this about bombers and chemical weapons back before the world wars and Saddam was suppossed to cause a global famine when he destroyed the oil wells. Seeing as there are far, far less nukes now (even if more nations have them) is it really a given that a missile war between nation states means the end of technological civilization or just be a collapse of the current system much like how the world wars destroyed Europe's hold on the world and gave the vacuum that allowed for American dominance? The mongols wiped out nearly 20% of the world population yet civilization around the world survived even if Islam was forever ruined by the mongols.

How many more decades (or years, if you believe the NK hype) we have until such war, who knows, and who knows what factors may develop that may make such wars not nearly the end of the species as a chomsky would claim. Climate change is horrifying, but biotechnology can abett it to a strong degree and that tech already is being used to make more resiliant crops. The structures that existed 70 years ago lack the resiliance structures made post-9/11 have and many US citizens live in Suburbs, not in the cities.
So what has yet to be done? Oath keepers or Dominionists are what I am split between.

@Dinh AaronMk
I just don't see how the US military vanishes the way the gm makes it sound like it does. All those assets are still out there and since you have players with control of states like texas or california access to US military assets should be more common than the GM makes it sound like.

I suspect it's a asymmetrical situation as I just don't see why some players wouldn't have access to jets, helicopters, ships and tanks. The situation isn't apocalyptic (no nuclear war between America and China occurred after all) and the US has tons of energy resources even if global trade has collapsed which it likely did as China is probably a pariah state over the destruction of the worlds orbital infrastructure and the global economy tanking is just inevitable in this situation.
@NecroKnightThe Oathkeepers are a real organization that have former war vets in their ranks. I am basically usiung a real militia group here since they are a very likely actor in a situation like this and their ranks would swell in such break down of civil order. They probably would be like glorified warlords in small town areas. Maybe they carried out a coup in one of the states, though I am not sure which states the Oathkeepers would be most likely to take over.
@NecroKnight
Soldiers vs militia members usually favor soldiers as even without GPS or whatever, the soldiers are just more disciplined and organized along with usually being better equipped.

Like as Oathkeepers (who have many former war vets in their ranks) I doubt i'd have much success in a direct engagement against a organized military force. I'd be reliant on ambush engagements and improvised traps on the defensive I suspect.

Still I don't see how this correlates to the US losing military power unilaterally. Whatever group restores the federal order is likely to inherit the powerful military complex the US has.
@NecroKnight
Powerful nations whose civil society collapses don't lose their military power overnight. I can't think of any historical example where that has been the case. The Russian Federation still haz a strong military and extensive nuclear arsenal to this day despite being the product of the USSR peacefully collapsing.

And the US has tons of inertia going into this. All those bases didn't get nuked after all. The war didn't escalate that hard- it just had a war with a rogue state and a invasion launched from Japan that got rebuffed with China alienating the whole world by destroying everyone's satellites.
I am contemplating being Oathkeepers or some radical group of that nature.

I just think there are people severely overestimating the military capabilities and ideological projection capabilities of other countries here. The US is still military super power here. A humilating defeat trying to invade a country whose military philosophy was built on guerrila warfare from the days of Mao onward doesn't make the US military which has bases literally all over the world magically vanish.

Blowing up a couple super carriers and satellites doesn't mean a country with a global military hegemony suddenly loses that edge. The worst case scenario is a loss of our military activity in East Asia due to being rebuffed by China. The US military is like 6-10x more expansive than the next largest military. The power balance is very lopsided... Intervening in the civil war of a super power would be a massive, massive gamble for any foreign force.

Also does the US international military still carry out operations even if the domestic situaiton has collapsed? I mean, they are likely without their CiC to set an agenda but they're still likely out there. A military without a country and all that.
@HeySeuss
I mostly do NRP for collaborative world building much more than for some 4X type thing.

That being said I have had all sorts of situations where you get players who power game shit. For instance in a space RO there was this one guy who just kept giving himself all the best tech without any real regard for context of plot. He insisted he had that, yet seemed much more occupied with thinking up ridiculously advanced tech than anything else. It actually bothers me when people in NRP try to make societies where "culture" is irrelevant not for some thematic reason but because they just care about gaming things. I've made hive minds with more culture than some human civs in sci-fi NRPs simply due to my lack of enthusiasm regarding creative energy writing about the armaments of various spaceships or making galleries of my favorite sci-fi deviant art pictures.
At the western foot of The Highest Mountains of Pyra

The flames of the camp fire glow in the eyes of a bulky, golden eyed man whom devours his half cooked rabbit meat in large chunks, using three highly ornate and precise brass lined picks fashioned onto his fingers as utensils. Clothed in furs and thick silk from the springworms of the oasis city Utan Brae with a flat cap hat marked with various runic symbols denoting his heritage like the cohorts around him. All around the fire a several other men huddle around, with their horses roped around a staked nearby. It is a cold night as usual, but something was off about this night in particular. For the merchants who usually accompany their Ranuun masters seemed particularly distrubed and not by anything the Ranuun have done today. It was of a disturbance that made Clisan, the second oldest brother of the grand soverign Insan compelled to ask one of his subordinates to ask the filthy merchant what he saw while in the milk filled kingdom Gattania.

The merchant simply repeated again and again 'the color, it is all color'.

The subordinate of Clisan, one of many, in response to this nonsense unsheathed out his curved blade and held it to the merchant's neck and with blood lined eyes that pierced the mechant's soul says 'we asked what you saw, color is everywhere- do not waste the time of a relative of the supreme Ranuun! This slight if you continue it will have your neck slit.'

But the merchant continued it anyways and so his neck was slit with the supervision Clisan who waved his arm up approvingly of the glorious killing of the beast man while sitting atop of the largest, skin lined chair around the campfire. The Ranuun with the brass picks looks on with delight as Clisan says to one of the workers in the colder parts of the camp 'now make this beast's body into something of value'.

Clisan than began to worry about the oncoming invasions of the Roturran lands to the South. The lords of Gattania may well get in the way of the next glorious conquest as they had threatened with the conquest of the kingdom of Ignatia which had a royal tie to Gattania. But the bigger concern to Clisan was the aging supreme soverign whose death very easily may cause Linsan to steal away Clisan's ascension to being the next supreme soverign. Fellow kin in the natural order of things can prove more dangerous than any foreign savage after all.

And thus Clisan in that moment of paranoia, perhaps spurred by a bloodlust from killing the merchant asked one of his loyal Ranuun, a scarred hairy man with a prechant for hatches to 'rid the world of Linsan in silence'

Clisan than sat on his hide filled seat, lined in spears and from his basalt plate ate raw rabbit meat with his bloodied hands like the true soverign he shall be. The Ranuun who gained a liking to the picks, derisively nicknamed the 'pick man' by his own kin found discomfrot in Clisan's lack of sanitation, but who is he to question his higher ups when the pick man cowardly uses primitive tools to eat?

Most NRPs tend to be short lived affairs, but it does seem some attract a lot more players than others. Why is that? Is it a matter of GM loyalty or a matter of the NRP having very loose standards?
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