darkwolf687

From Stardust, To Stardust

WilsonTurner said
And if you ask why I just came back and said this [which is odd; I leave and everyone starts arguing about banning and/or kicking me], well, you're all talking about me so much, so I figured I should put my last words in.

The argument has erupted because this is a 6 of one and half a dozen of the other situation, or so it seems to me.

From Stardust, To Stardust

I must protest ducks latest action. I sent ships to investigate the "mysterious ships" right after the post they appeared, duck made no response to that, so I assumed the ships had fled or otherwise dealt with (As is sometimes the case with ducks posts, where things seemingly vanish from existence). That window certainly did not provide enough time to conduct a full planetary evacuation, a few million or otherwise.

Colonial Powers, A NRP of colonisation, conquest and diplomacy.

I shall post later, with my compromise

From Stardust, To Stardust

You came back to a bomb site...

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I apologise, I didnt mean to pretend the arms didnt assist, the 1st world war would have played out differently if they hadn't, but they are profiteerimg rather than assisting. It doesnt require morale to profit off others misery.

Source? Do you need a source for that? Its commonly accepted that when the Germans first arrived, paticularly in Ukraine, they were first seen as liberators, until the people realised the Germans were even worse than Stalin. Better the devil you know lol

And sorry, but the French officially surrendered. The Free French were actually more dangerous in Africa, as I acknowledged further down. The French officially surrendered and half their homeland was occupied for most of the war, that was my point.

In regards to people having a numbers advantage, thats all well and good until the people realise its hard to buy goods and equipment on bravado. In the modern world, you can kill a man from a bunker some thousand miles away. Its an unwinable fight, in which many innocent people will be caught up and killed, be it by overzealous revolutionaries or the careless killings of those with the guns and the cash. The UK has 64 million people, many of which would not support the revolution or would start revolutions of their own.
As for the correct pre requistes, I would argue Britain lacks the pre-requisites you claim. Britain is primarily a service based economy. Now, hows that going to work out when the country collapses into a civil war? And although Britain has a strong industry too in some respects, who will the trade partner be? America? They'll never touch a revolutionary Britain with a barge pole. The EU? They wont want to risk fanning the flames.
Oh, and then Northern Ireland will probably start up its own revolution (The loyalists claim loyalty to the monarch, not parliament, and the nats want out anyway) the die hard SNPers in Scotland would seize the chance and secede.
The new state would be in taters already, with huge chunks dropping off and a DOA economy.
It just wouldnt work. Even if it succeeded (at massive cost of life, and international prestige, likely having unforseen consequences... I cant imagine the majority of the overses territories remaining British in that scenario, and I can't imagine the commonwealth surviving one of its keystone members and its "mother" going through such a disaster, though its possible they'd toss Britain out or suspend it. Likewise, the EU would take another massive blow etc) the surviving state would be in complete shambles. And when its complete shambles, here come the cut backs. I wonder whether Britain would actually end up further to the right as a result, the socialist like policies of the UK couldnt survive economic collapse. I imagine the people would feel cheated, and that kind of atmosphere could potentially result in further instability and rebellion.

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Vortex said
Moral? Pah! Troops know what they got themselves into and they should be willing to fight for whatever reason they joined. Although Britian did have Conscription at the time no? Well in that case the task of keeping the troops in order are of even greater importance to the commanderAnd anyway other countries without monarchs seem to do just fine, are you Brits reliant on your Monarch that you would lose all hope if they left you?Both the brave and the foolish die because of recklessness, or as some like to say "courage", on the frontlines. Better is the wise or the cowardly who actuallly liveThats because most revolutions did not have the right prerequisites unlike what Britian has today, a "advamced" Capitalistic economy, reliance on other countires for resources and trade, more Economic crisis's coming at a greater pace, and as always, disatisfaction with the systemAnd what is this other uneven playing field? As for wasting time, I must wholeheartedly disagreeWell of course. I never said we have to do it all in one fell swoop.

They did fine, eh?

WW1: Russia left the war during the revolution, America only actual joined battle for half a year despite having officially been at war for over a year (Though I'd say this was more greed) and the French had to set up machine guns facing away from the Germans because so many of their soldiers kept running away.

WW2: The French surrendered, Russians only fought because Stalin was worse (In fact, many towns in Western Russia at first thanked the Germans for conquering them and didnt resist) The Chinese collapsed into a civil war, the USA only joined half way through and got their arse handed to them until they swallowed their pride and joined up with the British and Frew French (I am of course reffering to Africa... Where the American soldiers ran away in their first battles). The Germans and Italians lost the war.

I that they did fine.

Right, and when the revolution starts you expect the world to be fine with such? Oh, and the people will win? This is the 21st century, now more than ever rich people have the advantage.

And the other uneven playing field? So you know, France after the French revolution and Russia after the October revolution all ended up so even, right?

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You can argue that we could have done it without them isnt inherently true. In war, morale is very important. Would we replace them with a president? A man who the majority of the country will have voted again and will despise? Even less people like Britains elected officials than like the monarchy, good luck uniting the people behind a president...

As for a brave fool, I have in my time come to the conclusion that a brave and honoirable fool is better than a wise man. The wise seem to endlessly plan each others dimise

As for a revolution, I hope you arent serious. Very few revolutions with noble goals have ever ended in happiness. and more often lots of sorrow. A revolution may be the only way to "even the playing field", but it will end in another uneven field. This is the invariably truth of humanity, we'll just be wasting time.

Why just go Europe? Because at the moment thats realistic. I can say "The entire Earth should be united" until the cows come home, but to unite a planet you must first unite a continent.

Put it this was; The tribes of Great Britain were transitory componants into the old kingdoms, which were transition states into England, Scotland etc, which were transition states into the UK, which is a transition state into the EU, which will be a transition state into a UE.

Colonial Powers, A NRP of colonisation, conquest and diplomacy.

I see.

Well, I shall redirect my force to other ventures then...

Still, I require my muskets. Hm.

Colonial Powers, A NRP of colonisation, conquest and diplomacy.

Indeed, and an interesting piece of history :)

I'm now waiting on Keyguy's response, if he says yes I'm gonna land soldiers in Vanjana, march into Parra and justify my war due to Parra's recent actions. I am preparing to see Parra's GDP fall like a rock. Service and trade based economies dont work too well when invaded rofl.
That should force them to A: Lift restrictions on the Lance
B: Cede lands

As for the colonial reports, did I not warn people about over crowding? Just you guys wait and see now -.-

Also, Nutr is looking to be Ducks Afghanistan. I pray to God Parra doesnt do that...

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Chapatrap said
The European Union is a bureaucratic, neoliberal mess that is almost beyond the point of repair.

Sadly, this.

I'm in favour of a European super state, though. If the EU were to pull their bloody act together...