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Legion X51 said
No, no, no, no, no, no, no!The point of plate armour is not just to strut about in big fancy suits of heavy metal sheeting. Plate armour, as in a proper suit of plate armour, will deflect the blow from a mace or warhammer quite well, but it's not the 'plate' that deflects the blow, it's the padded gambeson and leggings, as well as things such as the mail hauberk that you wear 'beneath' the armour that protects you from a mace, club, warhammer or any other blunt instrument of war. Arguing that being in or being out of plate armour, when you're being hit by a mace, doesn't make a difference is folly. You would be much, much safer and much better able to continue fighting if you were in plate armour if you were hit by a mace. In fact, I would argue that a sufficiently-crafted set of plate armour (styled in the form of Greenwich armour, Gothic or Maximilian) would be able to shrug off blows from maces or hammers without too much of an issue - after all, there are numerous examples of Gothic and Maximilian plate being able to deflect musket bullets from as close as 20 yards away.


That just isn't true, at least not for the majority of cases. Perhaps it is possible for an expensive, specialized suit to be made specifically for the purpose of mitigating blunt damage, but one of the most attractive uses of maces and other blunt weapons was their effectiveness against armor. They could damage the wearer, thick armor, or both in a much more direct way than blades ever could.

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_%28club%29#European_Middle_Ages

(Edit: that being said, if you're going to get hit, having the armor is better than not having it)
I'll need to think about what I'm doing. I had plans, but forgot them.
Lucius Cypher said
I wouldn't quite say that, Commander. Maces are certainly more useful against armor if because the physical trauma of a blunt blow is not as easily deflected or cushioned as a blade. But to say that "getting hit by a mace is almost the same as getting hit by it without armor" is misleading. At the very least, you're armor is less likely to protect you from the full blow of a mace, but you're not much better if you get hit with the full force of a mace without armor either. Dodging can be done with or without armor if being without armor is suppose to be taken in that regard as well, but at least when you're in armor you also have the option to simply take the blow.


It is true that armor gives you the ability to deflect the momentum of the blow more easily, but a solid hit will be basically as bad as if you did not have the armor.
Lucius Cypher said
What I've portrayed isn't what reflects orcs as a whole. And I wouldn't say that Malakaus is the best representation of what orc culture is like; he doesn't even want to involve himself in the affairs of his stronghold, which would have than gave him legitimate reasons to represent orcs. Right now he represents himself, regardless of what you perceive his race to be. Malakaus isn't even the greatest at what he does, he just happened to be better than most of the others he's fought. Hence why he would want to learn Khajit Martial Arts; expand his knowledge of combat and how to harm others.And besides, when has he actually "Get mad hit things" in a fight? Sure, he's gotten mad and hit his underlings for being bad at their jobs, but in a fight he's a bit more clear-headed than that. Reckless maybe, but a Shield Charge and 67% damage immunity in tight quarters is much more useful than you might think, specially if your enemies have been grouped together due to said tight quarters. Things are only as simple as we make them, New Yorker. Emotions cloud judgement and our range of options. Malakaus only allows himself to rage when there's only one option he wants.


There is no such thing as a percentage damage resist, not in the RP. A good set of heavy armor will make bladed weapons almost useless. The only way they can be used against heavy armor is stabbing attacks at joints. There are a few gaps in armor around joints that can be exploited, but it would be foolish to say that they are easy to hit. If there are two opponents of comparable skill, one is using heavy armor, and the other is using a blade (for this situation, no other factors, such as magic, are taken into account), the one in armor is very likely to win.

Now, blunt weapons, on the other hand, are very effective against armor. The plate only provides marginal cushioning for the blows, so getting hit by a mace is almost the same as getting hit by it without armor.
Fighting with blunt weapons is actually rather demanding both in strength and tactics. Were it simple, there would be no difference between masters, and the average fighter. Blunt weapons play a different role to blades and require entirely different tactics. The greatest role they serve is in taking on armor. Swords are better for flesh.
"If it makes sense to, I will. It is a training bow, so the arrows are blunt and it has less draw strength. You used a staff last time, yes? I heard you did very well against Wutanxeex last time, even with the poison. I know I can't beat him. I...am a bit nervous to fight you." Okun-Jei responded honestly. He did not seem nearly as hostile as Wutanxeex was, and he certainly did not appear like a person that would beat on an opponent who had surrendered.

Kaleeth appeared to be at least a bit unsure. Her interactions with her father over the past few days had been tense, or at least they were from her perspective. It could have been just her own worries clouding her perceptions. "He did not yell at me or anything. I think he is still angry at you though. I just don't know if he is angry at me. I am certain that he is...disappointed with me, but I don't know anything else. When we talk now, it is only for a few minutes about important things. I am almost done with my armor, so he is going to make me a full hunter soon. I...think he is still proud. It is hard to tell."
Lucius Cypher said
I had assumed that Sharee knew a guy. Even I can't turn a profit with skooma despite how many of them I steal in any of my ES games. I think of it kind of like how one deals with excess ore in Skyrim; there's someone who's willing to buy it for a full price as long as you're willing to do the work of getting it yourself. I make a tidy profit on ebony this way until I get my smithing high enough to utilize it.


If that is the case, you have never played Morrowind. It's quite valuable in that game. You can make a lot of profit selling it, though the only people who will buy it are Thieves guild vendors, and Khajiit vendors.
Rareth groaned and stretched out her muscles as she awoke. Having Telmeck awaken her was nothing new to her. It happened quite a few times over the past year since he had been placed on leave on Rothia. Rareth had worked with him on the last mission he was on, the one that attracted the attention of his new superiors, the Rahn'Masser. They had grown...quite close to each other since that mission, so Telmeck was a regular visitor in her home.

"I cannot comment on what I may or may not have done last night and all that. You know the drill. Thavrin, make us some breakfast, and no, I don't care what it is. Surprise me." She said to her apartment's computer, which promptly carried out her instructions. She smiled and nuzzled her snout against his for a moment before standing to her feet and stretching out her muscles some more. "I do wish I could tell you more, as well as being able to give you a bit more warning when I'm going somewhere. Sorry for cancelling our plans last night, but this last task was dropped on my shoulders pretty unexpectedly. Ghirn has a habit of picking up assignments for me at the last minute, then giving me even less time to prepare."

Rareth sat back down and looked at Telmeck with a smile before putting her arm around him. "Don't worry though. The mission is over, and now, I have all the time in the world."

Seemingly seconds after Rareth finished speaking, Thavrin's voice appeared once more with an alert. "Master Rareth, you have an incoming call from Agent Ghirn'Lors, marked urgent."

Rareth lowered her head and sighed in resignation. "You know, I got overconfident. I deserved that. I need to take this in the other room." She said, giving Telmeck a pat on the back before walking upstairs to her bedroom. As soon as Thavrin closed the door behind her, it activated a holographic display that followed her around the room. Once, Thavrin accepted the video call, Ghirn, a green scaled Rothian with yellow markings on his face and neck, appeared on the screen.

"Good morning, Agent Rareth. I believe congratulations are in order." Ghirn commented.

Rareth chuckled. "You can congratulate me when you send me on an actual difficult mission. The one last night was almost depressingly easy."

"Well, you're in luck, then. Because that is exactly what I have for you right now. You know those talks between the Assembly and the Rahn'Saki that I have been telling you about, they're finally coming to fruition. The joint species team was approved, and you're being assigned to it." He explained.

Normally, Rareth would have been surprised, but as a Datius, she was privy to a good deal more information about the Rothian government than the average citizen. Since this matter applied directly to her, Ghirn had been keeping her in the loop. "Hmm, assigning a Datius to a join-species team. I suppose the Rahn'Saki are taking this very seriously, though I shouldn't be surprised about what happened with our last mission. By the way, those names I forwarded to you, the ones that were involved in last year's mission near the border of Sovereignty space, did the Assembly consider them?"

Ghirn nodded. "Yes, in fact, a few are being assigned to this as well. Ashley Munroy, Telmeck'Rorta, there will be a few friendly faces there. You should leave as soon as possible for the city of Concord on Pax. I'll send you the exact details of the meeting in a moment."

"Understood, sir. I will leave immediately...though I have to say, I do hope to get back under your command soon enough." Rareth responded.

Ghirn opened up another display next to him and typed away on it for a few moments before turning his attention back to Rareth. "Indeed. I will leave you to it, agent. Oh, and I am sending a message to Telmeck telling him to report to you for his next assignment. Or should I say Agent Telmeck? I am also giving him an official promotion to Agent of the Rahn'Masser. I would expect to see him soon." Ghirn said before ending the call.

"Sooner than you think."

Rareth gave a light chuckle and mused on the assignment for a few moments. Telmeck's involvement in the mission, as well as his promotion, was something she had been aware of over the past few months, but she had been unable to mention it to him. Now that he was officially a member of the Rahn'Masser, she could be a bit more open with him on classified matters, though it was still preferred that she keep her identity as a Datius a secret. Although, with a few centuries worth of work, it would possible he could one day attain that title as well. He certainly had the skill.

Stepping out of her bedroom and going back downstairs, Rareth heard the beeping of Telmeck's own device as she approached, indicating he had received a message. "I have a new assignment...and so do you, Agent Telmeck."
Also keep in mind that in our world, we have global transportation that can get goods from one side of the world to the other in days. Using sailing ships for that purpose, you get half that distance in months. Transportation costs would drive up the price considerably, for any good not produced locally. Also, a more practical reason for not overstocking the ship with skooma, even if you could afford it, would be the logistics of getting past port authorities. If every crate you have has skooma, then it would be amazing if it wasn't discovered.
Sabine's opponent was not exactly expecting to see her before the fight, so he did not have any questions immediately in his mind when Tunxeek offered to translate between them. He rubbed the back of his neck awkwardly, trying to think if he had anything particularly important to say. "Uhh....hello. My name is Okun-Jei." He finally said to introduce himself.

"I...did not, actually. I was too nervous to ask anyone about it. No one has said anything to me yet though. Maybe it is just because you are here and they are busy. The Treeminder has been working a lot on the trial recently, and Reanaseer does not usually leave her home. She is very old and does not have much energy. Usually, people have to go to her for advice. She only leaves her hut when we move the village to a new place, or something important happens. For my father...I have not spoken to him much. I would rather talk to the Treeminder about it." Kaleeth answered. Despite Janius' suggestions, she could not help but to eat quickly in anticipation of whatever it was he had in store for her.
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