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Dragon Ball: Legacy (Mogtaki and Vena Sera)

Vegeta wasn't overly thrilled with the notion of sending humans into space, regardless of what Sayomi had to say on the matter. The risks of exposing them to other races was too great for him to do such a thing in good conscience. "Of course humans have weapons to combat Saiyans. My company collaborated with others to develop the tech, seeing as we were some of the most notable Saiyans after Goku and the others passed on. My grandfather and father could probably attest to their effectiveness. But realistically, outfitting every space-traveler, every ship with that technology, it will take so long. Not to mention training people to properly use it, on top of training people to pilot ships and navigate. It's going to be a huge undertaking regardless of if they can protect themselves or not." Granted that they had defenses against Saiyans, but what of the other races? Kaesstrians? Yulians? Narbu? Vegeta doubted the Kaesstrians would cause humanity any problems, but he couldn't be sure about the others, and those were just aliens he was aware of. Furrowing his brow a frown formed on Vegeta's lips, simply nodding his head in reply to Sayomi's question. "I do blame myself. I've been asked to watch over him and help him recover. Any shortcomings on his part are a direct reflection of my own inability to do so," he replied plainly. "Like I said... If humans decide to take to the stars then far be it from I to stop them. But if they're counting solely on myself and Capsule Corp to do it then they'll have to wait."

"Considering Saiyans can co-exist, yes, Beastmen will have to as well. Perhaps even on Kortal, though I can already see a lot of resentment on the part of those who were changed. Perhaps Earth would be the best bet for them, they're already accustomed to Beastmen because of Viral, and we have people not unlike them as it is. Before we decide on where they'll be living we certainly need more information though, I hate making ill-informed decisions." The number could make the difference between a minor issue and a colossal dilemma. Whether he went to investigate or Sayomi did Vegeta knew it would be some time until they had the data either way. "I'll keep it in the back of my mind, but you're right, there's far too much to be doing right now. I find it hard to believe we're working towards a war here, it feels so... Distant. Perhaps I'm just not accustomed to this." Just because he could fight didn't mean he lived for war, unlike those around him and his friends who were brought up on it. "With all of this work ahead of me I'm thinking sitting around here isn't doing me any good. I know you'll update me as you can, and I'll do the same. I think it's about time I get the others and we get working though."

"And by the time they realize, if they do realize what is happening, it's bound to be too late. What will they do then, I wonder. Send ships down after ours? But then they weaken their own ranks and risk being overrun. If they do nothing though then our forces on the ground can fight nearly unopposed. It puts them in a very precarious position... I like that." So in essence it was much the same plan that Korian had before, only altered slightly to be made more potent. Smirking as he closed the display Korian glanced at Viral, giving a shake of his head. "I didn't mean allies on Kortal. These worlds you'll be seeing to, I meant allies from there. Though I admit that even if we get no one's support all we need are a few ships, and with those we can carry out this plan of yours. It's easy enough to execute yet simply brilliant, I'm impressed." So that would be that then, they had their plans for the final battle. There was still no guarantee that it would work as they had intended but it was a much better plan than what they had before. Korian felt much more confident about going into this now, he felt like they were almost ensured to win, even if things didn't go as they expected. "Thank you for your input, I think we're safe to move on with our plans for now. I imagine you and the others will want to get moving on soon?"

Takeshi wished he did have the answers Shu was looking for, he really did. He didn't have the answers he himself wanted though, let alone what his brother was seeking. They would get their answers at some point, it just wouldn't be from each other, that was pretty clear by now. "If you want to get stronger then keep training, if you're really strong then you won't have to be afraid of things ever again will you?" Power didn't exactly rid you of all your fears, his own fear of insects should be testament enough to that. It sure made facing them easier when you had the ability to reduce an entire planet to ash! A bit overkill, but point being if you knew you were strong it sure helped facing things that unsettled you... Usually. "I guess everyone's afraid of something. Remember before, when we were all in the jungle and that black fog attacked us? Everyone has a fear, you just got to fight even though you're afraid, you know?" Maybe Shu would outgrow his fears, or overcome them somehow, hard to say. If he wanted coping methods though then he was coming to the wrong person for them. They could always give the little guy some fruit, he rarely ever seemed upset when he had fruit. "Eh? I don't actually have a banana!" Takeshi stammered, looking at Shu surprised as he sprung about. "Do I look like I have any bananas on me?"

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"I know humanity is capable of great things, you're misunderstanding what I'm saying though. As far as combat capabilities go that's where humans lack. And when there is the threat of conflict in a more traveled space I worry about how they'd fare if they were made to defend themselves." The last person he needed a lecture on humans from was a Saiyan who had never been to Earth before. She might have data on them but nothing compared to firsthand experience like he had. Being slightly annoyed at being mistaken Vegeta put his hands up, taking a breath to settle himself before looking at Sayomi. "Humans did have a major part in Viral's inception, and they are capable of great things. I just... I suppose I don't want to send them into trouble," he answered, shrugging his shoulders before sighing. "If they become part of the universal community it will be by my hand more likely than not. If it turns out badly then it will be all my fault, inadvertently or not. It may be a selfish reason to keep travel from humanity, but... It's not a weight I wish to have on my shoulders. If someone else comes along with the technology or means for them to do it then fine, I'll support that. I just don't feel ready for humanity to make that leap."

The matter of Beastmen was much too daunting for them to even consider fixing just yet. It was as Sayomi said, there wasn't enough information. Acting on so many unknowns could only end badly, they would have to investigate before taking proper action. So now on top of recruiting from previously visited worlds now they had to investigate the resurgence of Beastmen, not that much work. "If they're no threat to anyone directly then I say yes, give them a world to call their own. It would be such a shame to have to kill them instead, and if we can't find a way to reverse the work then this will be our next best bet. There is bound to be plenty of planets available once this is over, I would imagine. Not every single one in this universe can be inhabited, we can find a nice place for them to settle down on and build a new life." It sure felt lousy discussing this, even if they had good intentions. People would lose their homes if they hadn't already because of what had been done to them, and they could likely never return. It wasn't a fate Vegeta wished on anyone, certainly least of all innocents who had been caught in the crossfire. "We'll look into the matter, if it's all the same. Do what you can from here, and while we travel I'll see what I can dig up. We've a communications link between our ships so it won't be hard to keep each other in the loop."

"We had... 14 of these ships on Pagonia. Taking yours from that we've 13, and I know we lost at least 3 attacking the base, so that brings us to 10. Even if only half of those are still in operating condition that's 5 ships we can use, which gives us far more room for maneuvering in terms of our strategy." Korian rather liked where Viral was going with this plan of his. Deception wasn't something he frequently used, mostly because the bulk of his knowledge came from the very people he was fighting. To use even a small cluster of ships as a decoy, on top of a diversion the form of a battle, that would probably work very well. "If we put them in a ship and send them to the planet... Perhaps send you and your friends with them... That would be very convenient for us. A breach in their defenses could cripple them, especially if you cause havoc on the ground. While things there are in a disarray we can easily overcome the enemy above and join you on Kortal for the final surge. I like that..." It would throw enemy forces into a fit and make it harder for them to control the situation in spite of their larger number of troops. "If we can find some allies in these people as well then our odds will be even greater."

Takeshi was all for getting Shu help with his problems, he just wasn't sure he'd be the best one to do it. He had his own problems, how was he supposed to help his brother when he couldn't help himself? "We'll find some help for you, I don't know who but we'll find someone." Who else did they really have? It was basically Yumi or Vegeta, and if both of them were busy then who did they turn to? "I don't know, I heard Vegeta say breathing was supposed to help you relax or something, he told Viral that." Other than what he vaguely overheard Takeshi had nothing to give his brother, he was far from helping someone deal with anger issues. "Fear is not going to help keep you calm... Like... Where is the logic in that? If you want to be calm you need to be, I don't know, calm. Find something that helps you relax, you know? If we can figure out what helps you relax then you'll be fine though. Maybe... An emergency banana or something..."

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"We've not used them on travel ourselves, or anything for that matter. Besides, even if they were hard to come by you'd be astonished what money can get you." It was a good thing that Vegeta had accountants, balancing a checkbook wasn't something he could be bothered with either. Not that he wasn't financially responsible, because he was. If you asked him how much was in the company accounts though he'd look at you like you had two heads. He knew the ethics of business, how to operate one and the technical side of their products, but not the money. Smiling in amusement Vegeta shook his head, looking at Sayomi curiously. "Sure, they're smart. But how well will their intelligence stack up against the brawn of a Saiyan in battle? Or the stealth of a Kaesstrian warrior? I'd like to think there won't be conflict, but let's be realistic, there is going to be. I doubt that humanity is ready to fight if they have to, and I'd rather not risk the chance if we don't need to." Humans would go to space when they were well and ready, whether that was on his terms or someone else's. Perhaps just to humor the idea he'd request to speak with their own King when they got back home, just to see what he thought. "I suppose literally speaking I wouldn't be here without humans," Vegeta added, smiling, "After all, my mother was human. And her mother, going back a few generations."

It was a bit difficult to focus on anything other than the Beastman issue right now. The potential risks that this brought about definitely warranted their attention, they couldn't afford not to worry about it. While Vegeta and Sayomi couldn't quite agree on the nature of the project they did both acknowledge that it wasn't at all possibly good. They needed to shut down the program, that was the only certainty. The King couldn't be allowed to play God and make people like that, or change people against their will for his own use. It was so wrong that his father's work, work meant to make something to protect people was being used for something like this. "How long has he had this then, I wonder... And how many people have already been effected? Yumi is proof of concept that it works already, so I doubt they stopped at her." It was so hard to imagine why anyone would subjugate people to be changed like this. Sure it gave some power but you also risked the chance of instability, sometimes enough so that the only option was to put someone down like a common animal. Considering the track record of Saiyans he didn't suppose they would have any issue doing such a thing. "I would have to think a different world, personally. It would make more sense for them to do it off planet. No risk of accidental exposure to the population, easier to run things how they want with discretion. And if anything bad happens they can just leave the planet, no need to eliminate anyone, just abandon it altogether. It sounds cruel, but I'd put my money on that."

Needless to say these plans were still in the early stages of production. The two that Korian had presented were from a list of perhaps a dozen, and they had only just settled on their final options. Viral had proven to be helpful in giving his insight, and also showing them just how ill prepared they were. Maybe he was being a bit overzealous in getting to the fight, Korian thought. They were so close to beating the king he felt like every minute they spent sitting back was a minute people could be freed, it was maddening. "Yes, I suppose you're right. It would be a waste to use that ship as a distraction, definitely an infiltration ship," the rebel mumbled, looking over at Viral. "I guess it's a good think Pagonia will be a stop then. If you can manage to find any of our ships still intact then we can input commands from here and have them return back. If the Narbu agree to join us then they can just use the ships to reach where we are. Provided of course they don't have ships of their own." Admittedly they knew very little of Pagonia, their time on the planet had been as brief as it had been unpleasant. "If I had to assign a pilot, I believe that Ricken would be up for the job. He's not too bad at it, and I'd trust him to keep you all safe. I don't imagine Vegeta is a poor pilot either, considering his experience. He could more than likely do it as well."

Darn it, and there he went only making Shu even more bummed out. That wasn't what he wanted, seeing Shu disappointed and dejected was the worst. "Yumi is with Choi a lot, yeah... But if you asked for help I know she'd help you too," Takeshi answered, smiling slightly. "If she wants to take a break then we'll let her, she's not the only one that can help us. Vegeta kind of knows some therapy stuff, I think. Or maybe someone on here knows." Really, were their anger problems the biggest thing to be worrying about right now? Sure, he and Shu were prone to bouts of rage and tended to go nuts during them, but it often resulted in them beating their opponent. While neither of them wanted to hurt someone quite that badly it would be a little useful to have that extra insurance, just in case things went south. "Uh... Keeping calm... Shu you do realize who you're asking, right? Keeping calm isn't something I usually do," Takeshi admitted, sighing as he itched at his head. "But... Uh... Vegeta's said something about breathing exercises before. Take a deep breath, hold it and release it, do that a few times. Other than that..." he shrugged, smiling slightly, "Beats the hell out of me."

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Vegeta hadn't thought of it that way, suddenly building those scouters seemed a great deal easier. He still hadn't the knowledge of how one actually worked but at least he knew now that producing them was a relatively simple job. "Eventually you'll have new technology conflicting with the old however. You can't upgrade old tech forever, something has to give at some point. Perhaps its time you begin putting research into new models? I could even help, I've got plenty of funds, albeit that would mean we would have to do the work on Earth. If you don't mind that stipulation I would be more than happy to be a benefactor for your work." Anything that meant the advancement of technology he would try to put his two cents worth in. Unlike some of his business ventures this was a very promising investment, even if a bit of a ways off in reality. With the potential of dozens of aliens interacting however it would be almost mandatory for scouters to be distributed to provide communications, and their devices could be just the thing they would need. Smiling at Sayomi knowingly Vegeta waved a hand dismissively, giving a light chuckle. "I'm well aware of the risks, and I would employ people to ensure as much safety as possible. I am a businessman on the side. I just often can't be bothered with it all, compared to this it's so droll. And the reason I keep humanity from traveling the galaxy? Humans are inherently weak, even with the knowledge of Ki at their disposal. It would be too risky for them right now to become part of the universal community, I think."

No matter what way you sliced it the notion of more Beastmen wandering around was bad. They would either be rampant, killed for any number of shortcomings or made to live a terrible existence. It was beyond selfish that the King was willing to do something like this, to the point where Vegeta was sickened by it. "If we don't see to it before this is over, all of their work has to be destroyed. We can't allow people to create life on a whim like this, or to change people to make them tools. I hate to erase any kind of information, but the problems this research poses are far too risky to let exist." Even if the King were defeated there was no guarantee the work would stop, someone would get a hold of it for nefarious purposes. Tracking down all of the scientists responsible would be one matter entirely, let alone trying to destroy any traces of their work. "It'll be a hollow victory if planets are constantly in danger of being ransacked by manic Beastmen. I can't imagine Viral is going to appreciate our doing it, but we need to find a way to snuff this problem out sooner rather than later."

"Every plan has a weakness, even the best laid out ones..." Korian remarked, sighing as he rubbed at his head. He expected Viral to find holes in his strategies, and he was glad the Beastman had. While some of it he had considered before there was a bit of new insight that really got the rebel thinking. It would be impossible to cover all bases in reality, they couldn't know what the enemy was doing. And if the enemy became panicked during the battle it was nigh impossible to predict a frantic enemy. "Unfortunately we lack anything with stealth capabilities. We had one before but lost it in a skirmish, and the technology for that is difficult to come by. Stealth then isn't going to work, not in the traditional sense. It would have to be someone circling around and avoiding the enemy while the main forces engage, IF we have someone slip by, that is." Having a ship go in alone was incredibly risky, as they could easily become overwhelmed. If forces could get on the ground it would disrupt everything above the planet though, giving them the edge. "A small ship... You all still have that cargo vessel of yours, don't you? We could use that as a scouting craft. It should be just small enough to avoid radar and quick enough to evade the enemy. I'm sure we could find a crew willing to take on that task. Still... I don't believe our strategies are as good as they could be yet, we need more time to work them out."

Takeshi wasn't really thrilled about Shu fighting their father, even if he did want his brother there at the same time. The King was going to be a scary strong opponent, the risk of losing someone against him was high enough as it was. He remembered their first time meeting the man when they went after Viral, how just his presence alone had beaten them. Sure they were stronger now, but he probably was too. "I know you're not weak Shu, but... Father's on a whole different level than anyone we've fought before. I don't know if I can keep you safe from him." Hell, Takeshi wasn't so sure he could keep himself safe, let alone anyone else. The closer they were getting to this the more he was beginning to feel nerves. He never got like this around an opponent before, not once in his life. Sure he got uneasy around T'charrl but that was for a whole different reason, the Kaesstrian wasn't absurdly powerful. Hoping to help both Shu and himself the older boy reached out, pulling Shu into a one armed hug. "Maybe Yumi should help us with both of ours. Anger management has never been my thing really. Honestly I never really thought I had a problem until recently." With no one around he never thought any of his behavior was wrong, it was only with the introduction of Shu and the others he had tried to change himself. "She does do an awesome job of helping people, doesn't she?"

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"The Tuffle model, hm...? So these scouters date that far back..." His father had mentioned them once or twice before, as had his grandfather. How interesting that these modern devices dated back so many years ago. They must have been awfully primitive, yet Vegeta now felt an urge to get a hold of one. Perhaps somewhere in his travels he might come across one, he'd love to try and reverse-engineer it, just to see how one was put together. The notion of scouters had never really been much of a focal point for him despite how ingenious they were. Knowing there was such a long history behind the devices renewed his enthusiasm a bit however. "Oh I'm well aware, trust me. And realistically it will take some time, not every world will have the resources to even build a ship, let alone go on long voyages in one. It'll take a year at the very least to get any programs off of the ground, and then who knows how long thereafter to really get it booming. Unless, that is, we provide some aid, then other people could join us in no time." As Sayomi pointed out there were a good few repercussions of bringing more and more races into space. Risk of conflict aside these aliens simply wouldn't know how to navigate or what worlds were safe, it'd be a hectic beginning for sure. "Humanity has been in space, just not as extensively as Saiyans. I suppose there's never been much reason for us as a planet to travel out. My company does research new technologies though, so humans could very well join as well soon."

Vegeta was rather troubled by the idea of more Beastmen, as he should be. Making them was relatively easy compared to making one that was stable, his own father's work could attest to that. The King could well produce 1,000 and maybe a fraction would be fit for any kind of service. Artificial or not he thought that was a waste of life, and talent. If those scientists could duplicate such a process then they shouldn't be doing so to create weapons of war. "Beastmen are unpredictable though Sayomi. My father's work speaks about his failures, and he had a few that were borderline manic because they were so unstable. The ones that were like that had to be put down..." he explained, frowning dismally. "Those who were mentally sound were often too unhealthy and died rather quickly. I don't know what I'm more worried about, why the King might use them or how many lives will be lost trying to perfect it." Maybe Sayomi was right though, they could just be made as slaves. That was just as bad in Vegeta's mind, creating life only to have it live in servitude to another, such a waste of potential. It was part of the reason he was conflicted about giving Viral orders, he didn't like taking away the Beastman's autonomy, even if he did work better with direction.

Sharing their battle plans with Viral would hopefully bring him down from this angry bout he was having, Korian didn't want a scene on his hands. Not that one hadn't happened already, the Beastman and Takeshi were anything but quiet. With the display set up for Viral to see the rebel went through their first plan step by step, changing the display as he went to give a visual idea. Even in his precarious mental state the commander wanted to hear Viral's input, he certainly did have a mind for strategy after all. Korian would be a fool to not accept some input, there were always things he could miss or not even consider, some which Viral highlighted right away. "Either we destroy them or disable them, the latter being preferable," he agreed, nodding his head. "We considered the use of decoys, but we've only so many ships to our name, and even fewer that we can spare. Decoys might work... But that's a big risk we're taking by leaving it all to chance. This is precisely why I asked for your input." Smiling a bit Korian brought the display back to the original phase, hitting another button as the image changed. Now the rebel fleet was broken up into three clusters, each approaching from a different angle. "And this? What do you think of a trident approach?"

Takeshi had sort of forgotten about Shu while he was arguing, only recalling his brother was present when Viral went off. Immediately he felt ashamed and angry with himself for acting out, knowing full well it made his brother uncomfortable. Between feeling slighted and being upset with himself he was in a fair lousy mood now, standing at his sibling's side with his arms tightly folded against his chest. Regardless of whose plan they went with pretty soon they'd be fighting their father, and all of his men. Were they really ready for something like that? Was Shu? "Would you want to stay back...? You can stay on a ship while we go fight, if you want to." Takeshi replied, smiling gently. "I won't think of you any differently if you don't want to fight buddy. I'm nervous too, but... We have to stop him, and I'm going to help however I can." Even if meant fighting while afraid he had to do it. It was their fault that people had gotten hurt because it was their father who did it, so it was only right one or both of them stop him. Reaching out and putting an arm around Shu's shoulders he pulled him in for a hug, looking over at Korian and Viral as they spoke. "I'll help you with that, if you want," he added, looking down at his brother before rubbing at his neck bashfully. "I kind of need help too don't I?"

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"Exactly, which is why we won't abandon him. He's one of us as far as I'm concerned. I've neglected him up until now but I intend to remedy that as soon as possible. It'll be difficult, splitting my focus, but I can hopefully help both T'charrl and Viral." At the very least it meant there would be plenty of work to do, something Vegeta couldn't complain about. He loathed being idle, and while training was necessary it hardly was the sole thing he wished to fill time with. To have T'charrl be able to handle himself and gain an ally in him, Sayomi was right, he'd make a powerful friend indeed. "I've never cared much for culture, or language either admittedly," Vegeta said, smiling as he itched at his nose. "Perhaps a good thing we were lent some scouters then. I'm about as useful as a translator as Shu is with a wrench I'm afraid. It's admirable though, your hobby. As I understand you compiled most of the data for the scouters yourself. I'm impressed, that's a lot of work for one single person." Hm, and what had he done as of late? Bicker with Viral and help modify a ship, not exactly anything boast-worthy. Perhaps it was high time he start seeking grander horizons, after this war was done with of course. "I do intend to travel a bit myself when we're done. There are a few worlds who aren't yet space-travel ready, I intend to help that. A free universe with all sorts of races interacting and trading, I do think that will be a good outlet for my time."

Regardless of what the King's reason was for making Beastmen it couldn't be good. This was worth looking into, probably even before traveling to the other worlds for recruiting. If they could find where this was coming from then perhaps they could shut it down for good and prevent any more cases like Yumi's. Over the noise of Takeshi and Viral yelling at one another Vegeta glanced down at his computer, pouring over the data he'd gotten. This might help, or it might be a total bust, it was hard to say just yet. "Those two... They never stop..." he mumbled, slipping his handheld back into his pocket. "I intend on keeping it a secret, and only if I find a solution then I'll bring it up. I'm sure Yumi has no desire to undergo another operation, but if it means restoring her back to her old self I can't imagine she'll be opposed. She's still having a hard time with it, understandably." The question Sayomi then proposed made Vegeta worry a fair bit, looking up at her with a concerned glance. The King playing god... That was the last thing they needed. If he could make an army of artificial lifeforms, Beastmen loyal to him and him alone, they would have a massive issue on their hands. "What I'd like to know is why he's doing it. Everything I've heard suggests he's more for Saiyan superiority, so why create something that could jeopardize that? That's what's confusing me..."

If left alone Takeshi and Viral were certainly going to fight, Korian could see it coming. Perhaps a distraction then to diffuse things, and he had just the thing for Viral. "If you want to talk strategy then come with me Viral, I have something to show you." Sharing this information wasn't that big of a concern seeing as they were going to be fighting together. Plus the rebel did actually want some input, he preferred an objective insight to check for possible problems. "Charging straight in? With all due respect I've been at this longer than even you have. I might come across as brash on occasion but I do know what I'm doing." Korian replied, smiling in amusement. Requesting for some documents to be brought up he gestured to the screen, the first image being of Kortal. Pressing a button on the panel he brought up a cluster of blue ships designated as their own, and the expected enemy formation before the planet. It gave an idea of numbers, and the pressing issue he had brought up of being outnumbered in battle. But that was neither here nor there, that wasn't the point of the demonstration.

"As you see, the Saiyans will most likely form a protective wall in the outer reaches of the atmosphere to prevent entry to the planet. They have no new ships since my and Sayomi's departure, so we can safely guess at what we'll encounter. A few gunboats such as the one you all have, a frigate, and several smaller combat vessels. Our primary concern is the frigate, a ship like that is equipped to tear through all but the strongest of armor. Because of that if we encounter one myself and Sayomi will use this vessel to fight, it's the only one that can withstand blasts. The remaining troops will engage the enemy vessels and we'll whittle down their numbers in the process. As for where you and your friends come in..." Pressing another button he brought up a lone ship, just off the left flank of the cluster. "As we engage the enemy the intent is to send your ship around the chaos and directly onto the planet. If we make our presence known most of the forces will come up to confront us. At most you'll have a few Elites to contend with. Should all go as planned we will beat the enemy up above while you secure a landing zone for the remainder of the forces. Once that happens we make a unified strike on the capitol and for the King." That was the ideal plan, but rarely did things go as well as they were written. Mistakes were likely to be made and there were always unaccountable events. "Thoughts?"

Takeshi glowered at Viral's back as he was taken away, folding his arms over his chest and beginning to sulk. He had military experience too, he was the leader of a squad for a year. As if he didn't know strategy, he and his squad had made it through a year for a reason. Instead of him being asked to help the damn Beastman was being brought over, that was so unfair. "Viral has no idea what he's talking about... I know plenty of strategy..." he mumbled, finally tearing his eyes off the pair and looking at Shu. "Would you trust me to make a strategy...? Actually never mind, don't answer that." Shu would agree with whatever he said probably, he didn't know any better. He'd ask Yumi but she still looked annoyed with him. Sighing softly he rubbed at his head with one hand, glancing towards the front of the ship and out at the black void of space. "What do you think Shu? Do you feel ready for all of this?" Honestly, he didn't. Not by a long shot.

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"If that's the case bringing him home might be our best option. The only issue with that is no one there can handle him if he goes berserk..." Evidently a lot more research had to be done into how Kaesstrians worked. Vegeta knew he had been lacking in that regard, much too focused on trying to sort out Viral as of late. Splitting up his focus wasn't all that appealing, if only because he worried how well he might work when juggling them both. "I don't quite trust very many others with something like this. Yumi perhaps, she tends to have a knack for calming people down it seems. Always has, one of those people with a gentle touch, oddly enough. I certainly don't trust either of the boys to watch over him, or any of their friends for that matter." Considering how busy Yumi was as of late with Choi it fell to him then to keep an eye on T'charrl. Fishing his own computer from his pocket Vegeta booted the software up, offering it out to Sayomi. "You certainly have an odd obsession with aliens, don't you? I suppose I've no room to talk, my own love is technology," he mused, smiling as he glanced at the computer. Both scientists but with their own little quirks.

Vegeta proved his own point about being more concerned with Viral by asking for the data on him. The notion of Beastmen being let out and about was more troublesome than some potential berserk alien. T'charrl could be handled, he had been before a few times already. Strangers turned into Beastmen who risked rampancy? That was not something he had any desire to face in battle. "I trust your information, but what I have is a bit more comprehensive than what you have. If I can find any links between our data I might even be able to highlight some discrepancies, find out how we can counter this." It was pure speculation at this point but Vegeta had a theory in mind; Would changing Beastmen back to normal be possible? They were altered due to an introduction of new genes, so what happened if those genes were extracted or shut off? As the data was being transferred the Saiyan glanced towards the bridge thoughtfully, wondering if they were all still going at it inside. "You should tell him, just in the event we have to face them in a fight," Vegeta replied, looking back at Sayomi. "I would imagine he'd feel worse if you sent troops in and they were beaten by an enemy he didn't know about."

No surprise that Shu was against the idea, he was pretty well opposed to violence for the most part after all. He was really not going to like this battle then, there was going to be an awful lot of chaos through it all. Takeshi wasn't too certain if he was truly cut out for it or not either. He had been in large scale fights before, sure, but nothing where the stakes were quite this high. Was this nervousness or excitement he was feeling now? "We'll keep people safe Shu, just like we always have tried to. Just because they're going to fight with us doesn't mean we can't protect them like before." It was hard to convince Shu of anything with Viral being so pessimistic, even if it wasn't unfounded. No one present was completely vested in this plan but at least they were gradually coming to the agreement that it was necessary. "I don't want to just send these people to their deaths Viral, I want to fight with them," Takeshi answered impatiently, frowning at the Beastman. Why was he making it sound like he didn't care about these people? They had already saved them once, wasn't that indicative enough?

"We'll come up with a plan then! We're obviously not going to just try going through the front door, so relax! We'll figure something out!" Now Takeshi was getting all angry again, he was really sick of Viral making him sound heartless. He'd already said it, he wasn't fond of this idea to begin with. While he might not have some extravagant plan in mind he didn't have to think of one, that wasn't his job. Ultimately all Takeshi really cared about was getting to fight and beat his father and make him pay for what he had done. If they had to get some help to accomplish that then fine, they'd do it. If he personally had to keep an eye on the new recruits then he'd do that too. In fact... "If it makes you feel better then have me keep an eye on the new troops! I'll lead them into fights and I'll protect them, how's that? If people don't want to fight then they don't have to, but those that come with us I'll protect with my life if I have to!"

Korian had just about enough of this back and forth bickering, they were making no progress. Viral's largest concern sounded to be strategy at the present, so perhaps shedding some light on their plans might help alleviate that. "Viral? We've already got one or two plans of attack in mind, perhaps you'd like to discuss them with me? I could use the input of another commander." As far as Takeshi went the boy most certainly would just charge right in, even if he said he wouldn't. The boy was much too aggressive and too quick to act, it had always been his problem. In a small battle sure, it might work fine, but not here. If they ran headlong into the enemy they'd be decimated. It didn't help matters either that the primary engagement would be all through their ships, meaning no one would actually fight personally. That would be the riskiest part, as a damaged or disabled ship meant death in the vacuum of space. "Come with me, I'll let you take a look over this, maybe you can offer some advice or point out flaws," Korian added, gesturing before walking back to his console before. "Bring up contingencies Alpha and Zulu, please."

Legend of Zelda: The Templar Crusade

Through everything that was going on around him Caelan wasn't sure if he could pull his part off. Binding a man the size of Onyx didn't sound like an easy plan at all, but if everyone else was committed then he'd give it his all too. As spells were thrown out and Nayrin dropped onto the man's back he already had water ready, tossing it out and quickly crystallizing it at Onyx's feet. In a matter of seconds he had a thick sheet of ice holding their enemy in place, hopefully it was enough to pin him down. After his part was done Link followed up with an impressive shot of his own, managing to both damage Onyx and send him over the side of the bridge. From hectic to oddly calm Caelan dropped his arms at his side, panting despite having a small smile on his face. No way it could be that easy, could it? Boy he had a headache right now... How much more magic was he going to have to use?

Caelan expected there to be more, nonetheless he groaned involuntarily when Onyx reappeared, angrier than ever. Wonderful, so all their little barrage managed to do was irritate the beast of a man. Damn it, this really was the lousiest situation he;d been in quite some time. Just to drive home how sorry of an attempt that had been Onyx began to retaliate, throwing out powerful attacks of his own. By chance everyone managed to either dodge or evade the strikes, but even so they indicated a power perhaps larger than they had first realized. Being turned on by the enemy Caelan swallowed nervously, quickly calling forth more water as well. He had only just withdrawn it when Onyx created a mighty gust of wind, probably trying to blast them off the bridge. Unable to help the others so quickly all he could do was rend an ice wall before himself, hoping to block the gusts. Having made it so quickly his defenses were fairly weak, and as he heard the ice crackling he raised his arms to cover his face, wincing as ice pelted him when the wall broke. Near being thrown off of his feet the mage was blown back a few meters, coming to a gradual halt when he near collided with Link.

"Come on... This guy has that much power...?" Even if Onyx had to cut through soldiers like they had Caelan got the notion he'd still be every bit as powerful. This was a far cry from fighting the typical monsters, or treasure hunters that he was accustomed to. Seriously, just what in the world was he in the middle of. They were likely far from done and already he felt exhausted, mentally and physically. Using so much magic took a toll on his mind in a big way, he just wanted to lie down and go to bed at this point. Glancing down at himself he saw several small cuts and nicks on his person, a result of the ice shattering and cutting him. Nothing serious, he could wait until after the battle to heal, IF they got to that point. Hopefully his allies were in okay condition to continue as well. Seeing Link cowering at his side Caelan frowned, that wasn't going to help at all. He couldn't blame the kid, he was pretty close to that point himself. "Hey, Link, pick yourself up. Come on, we need you," he said, looking back at Onyx, "And all the blessings of the Godesses probably..."

Dragon Ball: Legacy (Mogtaki and Vena Sera)

Vegeta hadn't thought that T'charrl would be in so much trouble as this. Granted he knew the Kaesstrian was struggling with power and his transformations, but to imagine him becoming such a hazard was a bit of a stretch. Even with Sayomi's input it sounded like speculation, albeit it was speculation that he was going to heed very closely. "Having another strong ally on our side... I wouldn't hate that. So long as we monitor him closely I don't imagine we'll have too much trouble on our hands. Granted... He's had two instances now where he has nearly attacked someone, and as he gets progressively stronger the risk only grows with him." So therein was the dilemma, was the risk of having an accident worth the outcome of T'charrl becoming powerful? Hard to say, as once this war was over did they truly need so many powerful friends? "I assumed he could change back, it only made sense. In most cases no change is permanent as far as transformations go. I've assumed he'd revert for a while now, I just don't think he knows how to. And while he does have Ki his energy is too different from ours to give him any advice. Trying to be optimistic and think we'll figure it out soon, but as it stands it's not looking very good."

Perhaps it was a bit of a bias, but Vegeta was more concerned with the potential outbreak of Beastmen than T'charrl. Even if T'charrl were to go berserk they could likely stop him and restrain him, that was a worst case scenario. To think that Beastmen were being mass produced however, that presented a whole slew of problems. The only two Beastmen that he knew of were both in moderate condition, each having a tendency for excessive violence if pushed. While the argument could be made that in part it was due to Viral's genetics there was no excuse for Yumi, she had never been that aggressive. Something about what was done had to be unstable then, and imagining a few dozen people like that was certainly daunting. "False-positive or not it's best we don't take it lightly. If you'd allow me I have some documents of Viral's genetic coding on our ship, if I can use your research I might be able to confirm this, and maybe even figure out a means to stop it." Undoing a genetic mutation, easier said than done. Gene therapy was a possibility, but that took expertise well beyond what Vegeta possessed. Reaching into his pocket he pulled out a small electronic device, smiling as he held it out for Sayomi. "Never leave home without at least one computer on me. As soon as I make any progress I'll forward my work to you, hopefully we can solve this before it does become an issue."

Takeshi wasn't quite sure why he even asked Shu, as he expected the little guy was lost. Smiling slightly the older boy placed a hand on his face, sighing before patting Shu on the back. "Don't worry about it too much if you don't get it. We're just trying to get some friends to help us, that's all. Strength in numbers and all that, you know?" Not that it helped too terribly much if those numbers were lacking in the strength department. He was still against the idea for the most part but saw the reason for it too, and like it or not they needed to go along with it. Overhearing the idea of splitting the rebellion up Takeshi just had to give some input, thinking that idea was a bit excessive. Why split up when they had their own little force already? They all worked well with one person or another here, no reason to separate them. "I think we can fight the king already if we had to," the Saiyan replied, smiling at Viral. "We need help getting through his defenses though. There's just too many people, you should know that considering what you did for the Saiyans." It disgusted him to acknowledge this, but what they were essentially looking for was cannon fodder. He didn't like it, but again, it was necessary.

"We have a little time to train them, probably. Even if we don't we'll pair them up with people who do. They can be sort of support, maybe a medic or something. They don't have to go hand to hand with a Saiyan after all, we're not putting them in any super dangerous situations I don't think." Especially not if it was people that they knew. Granted on planets like Narbu they hadn't met anyone, but Shaharia and Kaesstria were two totally different stories. Some familiar faces could well end up in their ranks and he would do everything within his power to keep them safe, as he was sure the others would too. "Why shouldn't I have confidence in them anyways? Most of them have been fighting, like the Kaesstrians, or have been under foreign control forever. They probably know how to fight Viral, let's be realistic. And you really think we need to be the ones to give them a reason to fight? You're willing to fight just because of what they did to you, yeah? Well imagine how a whole world of people must feel, I can't think they'll be reluctant to get their hands dirty for some payback."

Dragon Ball: Legacy (Mogtaki and Vena Sera)

Ah... Vegeta had been so focused on Viral he hadn't even considered taking much a look at T'charrl. He certainly trusted what Sayomi had found, he didn't like it one bit though. "Looks like I'm keeping an eye on the both of them for now," he said, smiling exasperatedly. "Thank you for the information. I knew there was a bit of toxicity to his saliva before but I never would have thought it was enough to be lethal. And if the potency is only going to increase with his transformations..." Who knows where the Kaesstrian could end up from here. The risk of putting him in battle now made him wonder if they ought to just keep T'charrl on the ship. Or possibly even send him home. Then again in his current state would he be able to control himself? As it stood were he to go rampant there was more than enough here to stop him, but back home his people would be powerless. Just as a precaution now they were going to have to take samples and develop antidotes, and do so again should T'charrl change once more. "I'm going to assume your facilities on here are better than what we have. Would you mind if we used your lab to run a few tests? I'll try to develop some antidotes before we leave, just to be safe."

Were T'charrl's poison not problem enough the revelation of more Beastmen only made things worse. What in the world was the king thinking, mass producing them? If not done correctly a Beastman could deteriorate at the smallest levels and just fall apart. So this information he was seeing, were these failed experiments? Or were these successes that had to be put down? The data looked near identical to Viral's so he'd think the latter. "Just how many of them has that bastard made..." Vegeta mumbled, shaking his head in disbelief. Whether the King was changing people or making them from scratch the fact of the matter was it was a big issue. "A problem is an understatement... If Yumi is any indication someone with Beastman genetics given to them sees a sizable increase in power, but they're also at risk of going feral more often. An army of people like that... I don't think we're going to have a very easy battle, I'll put it that way." Some mess this was becoming, the King was really trying to do everything within his power to make this as difficult as possible. "I don't imagine you'll let me take this for now, do you? I need whatever information I can get regarding Viral to help him, we desperately need to sort him out. Especially if T'charrl is at risk now as well."

Takeshi didn't want anyone fighting for them either. Hell, he didn't want his friends fighting, let alone some random people. He realized they needed the help though, and Viral should too considering what he knew. It wasn't ideal but then again nothing about the situation they were in was. Gritting his teeth angrily he glared up at the Beastman, stepping closer as he shoved him in the shoulder. "And what else do we do then, huh? Sit back and hope for the best? How is that a good idea?" he snapped, not moving when Viral lifted a paw. He almost wanted to be struck, it'd give him an excuse to hit back. Probably for the best that Yumi opted to step in and intervene, pushing both of them away from one another to break it up. Sticking his tongue out at Viral a bit childishly he moved back over to Shu, folding his arms across his chest as he did so. Hearing Yumi agree with him he smiled smugly, watching as Viral was backed into a corner. He shouldn't feel smug but he did, they had to do this like it or not. "Shu... What do you think about all of this...?" Takeshi asked, glancing over at his sibling. "You haven't said anything the whole time, tell me."

Yumi almost rolled her eyes when Viral played the blame card, expecting that from a small child, not him. Everyone was getting much too hotheaded from all of this, it was too important a decision to go rushing into. It wasn't what the Beastman wanted to hear but she went ahead and spoke her mind, agreeing with both Takeshi and Korian. If the commander was saying they needed more help then they must really need it, because as far as she was aware he had never done this before. Seeing Viral so disheartened she figured she would try to help, suggesting he be put in a position of power. Korian took it one step further, suggesting they break up into platoons to make managing so many soldiers a bit easier. She wasn't so sure about that, maybe a handful of them here had leadership experience, Viral being among them. Looking at her friend Yumi smiled apologetically, "If you don't want to do it then you don't have to. It was just a suggestion Viral. Besides, Korian has gone on this long commanding, and he has Sayomi and Leto to help. We don't have to take on that burden if we don't want to."

"Besides, we're already our own little platoon," Takeshi interjected, smirking as he spoke. "The five of us, Vegeta, Kai, Choi and Kabocha. Plus I guess if that kid Haku joins us then that makes 10 altogether. I think we're pretty set." They didn't really need a leader for that, they all had their own little pairings and could do just fine that way. The only one who didn't quite fit in was Haku, they would have to figure out where he worked. Takeshi had after all learned a bit about leading a squad, he was sort of a squad leader for a year. It was never used, but he did have knowledge on how to organize a team. Turning his focus onto Viral he raised an eyebrow curiously, cocking his head to the side a bit. "How's that sound Viral? You can even lead if you want, I don't really care. I just want to get this recruiting business out of the way so we can go kick our father's butt."