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ActRaiserTheReturned said
It depends on what you say homophobic means. If you say it's being discriminatory, then no, because of already mentioned reasons.

You're discriminating just on the fact you're saying their sexuality is a sin and evil, but your sexuality isn't.

mdk said
Disagreement is not necessarily fear/hatred/bigotry. But I can hardly blame anyone for interpreting it that way, and the only explanation to the contrary involves like a 45 minute walk through the books of Corinthians and some heavy references to the 'old law,' so..... well, sparknotes version, the keystone piece I guess, if I assumed that guildees only had patience for one verse at a time, is "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive. Essentially -- well not a 'condemnation of,' but a 'deviation from' the idea that Christian salvation is coming from an adherence to a book of laws.

So basically you're saying Homosexuality is a sin because it's not constructive?
If so then in what sense? If it's in creation of a child, I feel the need to point out we're in a world where both Gay Marriages and Abortions are rising yet we still have tons of children in orphanages without parents even. So we're not on any kind of shortage of children.

HeySeuss said
You know what a town in Missouri did to get rid of WBC?Simple -- they made sure to park in every legal space in the entire town. WBC couldn't park and weren't about to either park very far away and thus not have their escape vehicle ready on standby and they weren't going to risk being towed by parking illegally (cause the cops were in on it.) Problem solved, constitutional rights not violated.

That's amazing! XD

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Commander said
Seeing as the Bible was written 2000+ years ago by some guys with various revisions and interpretations since then, I treat it much like Wikipedia; not a credible source. It's nothing more than a belief. No physical entity exists. I can understand why we have religion as people need a place to turn to, however I often feel bad for some of them. Go to an emergency room and look at the various people there, whether it was from a car accident or cancer that spread to the brain, and pray for them. Remove the doctors, the science and technology, and tell me how that belief works out for them.

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I was only referencing the Bible to disprove the claim people were making that the Bible and God aren't Homophobic.

ActRaiserTheReturned said
The only verses calling for the death of homosexuals are in Leviticus, and ancient Israel does not exist anymore, and that law was particularily laid down for Ancient Israel.

Still part of the Bible, still Gods word.
Outside of the Old Testament claim (and even that is controversial if going by Bible quotes. Also, saying it's no longer counts simply cause Christians find it inconvienient doesn't work. You want to say God told you to ignore what he said? Show me where he himself [And note, being atheist when I say where he said that, I mean where what is supposedly him, the Bible says that], not what Christian's want him to have said). The Bible isn't very keen on telling people to just ignore what it says.

mdk said
In fact, one of the most-quoted verses in all of Christendom reads "God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." If we're following the example of Jesus, then, and we believe that homosexuality is a sin, we should be ready to die on the sinner's behalf, out of love for our common man.

That's honestly the way I'd prefer Christians to interpret the Bible.
However, that still means the Bible is claiming Homosexuality is sin,
May it also say "Die for them" or not, if it's calling the sexuality a sin, then the Bible is in fact being Homophobic.

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Protagonist said
None of those verses seem to support the particular actions of Westboro, however. There's a big difference between thinking Homosexuality is a sin and running about picketing funerals accusing random people of being homosexual with no evidence whatsoever so that you can harass them. Seriously, anytime something bad happens, Westboro will begin to celebrate it. Their motivations are clearly not biblical ones.

I'm not claiming the Westboro Baptist are justified (Though no one is justified for these things simply cause "God Says so").
Or that they're not completely heartless and idiotic, cause they are.

I'm just pointing out that the Bible does indeed speak out against Homosexuality.
So to claim the Bible doesn't hate Homosexuality is false, hell within those passages I linked it even calls for their death for it.

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ActRaiserTheReturned said
Yeah, I agree too. I don't believe that you should be cruel to anyone you disagree with. The God Hates Fags people don't know anything about the Bible they thump. God gave Sodom and Gomorrah time and time again to repent, this was back in the Old Testament when God was always on a punishing spree. Even then he didn't hate what they call fags.

Also I meant to reply to this last time, but didn't feel like it then.

Romans 1:26-27
Leviticus 20:13
Leviticus 18:22
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:8-10

Just a handful of Bible Quotes that outright says God doesn't like Homosexuals/"Fags".

Not defending Homophobia in the slightest's.
Religion's Homophobia is one of many reasons I despise and disagree with Religion.

But to claim that those who are Homophobic aren't following their Bible?
That's just an inaccurate statement.

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Why am I not surprised? -.-

BioShock Studio Irrational Games Is Shutting Down

Bioshock 1 and Bioshock Infinite called to very different crowds/people.

Were largely separate stories (although in the same world) and from what I understand Bioshock 2 is the first but worse.
So it could of worked as separate stories, but at the same time it's big tale and world was ending.

Nothing screamed for a sequel or continuation of that series.
But seeing the company itself fall, who could of went on to make other great games?
That does suck.

Cheap Death in Storys?

Brovo said Kind of like how it ignored having a quality ending, but I digress.

To be fair, they were rushed by EA.
By a whole year from what I recall.

Plus they half-made up for it when the free expansion DLC on the ending later.

[Pkmn] Which eeveelution to choose for my shiny Eevee?

I like Umbreon nest too.

Sylveon & Vaporeon looks half decent too,

Espeon I see being really dependent on colour preference.
It is ultimately up to you though and your tastes though.

I'm waiting, Nature

I'm already in it.

Cheap Death in Storys?

Depends on how people can be brought back to life.

How easy is it to perform?
What does it cost?
->Ex: In Merlin to bring someone back to life another person must sacrifice themself.
Are there ways to stop it from working?
Are there any other effects of the death?
->Ex: Doctor Who, when he dies he regenerates. Basically becoming a new person, so in a sense that last doctor you loved is dead personality wise.

Then for the death itself they could of had an agonizing terribly painful death.
That would still hold meaning regardless of Resurrection.