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It's starting up in several states now. Apparently it's the new trend in the conservative playbook. Idaho, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Arizona, Ohio, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and Hawaii (they're mad that everyone teases them about the Rainbow Warriors apparently). All of these states are introducing laws similar to the Kansas law.

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Oh shit, that's what they did in Kansas. Does it include government workers as well?

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Tick said It's bad that it happens, discrimination's bad all around, but systematic/legal discrimination bugs me more than gangs being assholes. Gangs aren't considered part of the norm/default, and their actions aren't considered or argued to be acceptable or just. They don't have legal authority over anyone, either. Which you will see with cases like these. An African American would never get away with trying to justify doing the same thing to someone white as the reverse does.

Worst thing is people who go on about how the U.S. is actually discriminatory against people who have traditionally had more rights and power, and this is all just a fantasy created to justify and perpetuate that discrimination.

I forgot the biggest gang of all, the government officials. Organized crime.

It's not just skin color, you see it with wealth, too. There was a case in Texas where a woman who was white, educated, and well off who also happened to favor the combination of Ambian and wine. She drove under the influence and ran off the road, hitting and killing a mother and her baby. Then there is the recent "affluenza" case that allowed a 16 year old who killed four people when he was 3x the legal limit to go to a posh rehab place that costs about half a million a year that his parents will pay for rather than to juvenile detention. Their argument was partially based on the fact that the kid was spoiled and was raised to get everything he wanted and never had any consequences thus rendering him unable to make good judgement. If that's the case, the punishment is just enabling him again. There are many cases where it seems as if having money vs not having money is the only difference and the punishments reflect that.

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Turt said There are no white gangs, so it's ok.

Except for the WP biker gangs, prison gangs, and neo nazis.

What would spam's offical animal be?

Platypus

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They both have Disney. And we all know about how Disney felt about minorities.

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TP said Florida isn't even like the south though. Like, they're south, but so different from everyone. More like the west coast.

That depends on where you go, it really does vary a lot by region. The panhandle, where this shooting took place, is pretty traditionally southern.

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Nex said I think you're getting the wrong idea in your head when I say that Russians should move from Ukraine. I don't mean "the government has confiscated your possessions, move to Russia or be shot". There are programs that already exist between the Baltic and Russian governments to relocate Baltic Russians into Russia proper. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement.

Ok so this is my final word on this subject because we're going around a merry-go-round. You never mentioned these programs in your orginal statements which sound much more aggressive. And if these programs exist, then people already know about them and perhaps choose not to do so. They may have family or a business they don't want to leave. And maybe you should spell out your position a little more clearly, because when you say "Russians should have to move out of the Ukraine" it sounds pretty bad.

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Nex said I try to avoid blanket statements, but pro-Kremlin parties are notorious for being corrupt and autocratic. Look at Belarus, for instance. I don't think favour should be given to those people who support a pro-Western government, but favour should indeed be given to those people who support a democratic government.

I'm supportive of those protesters in the Ukraine for wanting to not be chained to Russia anymore but I dislike the idea of doing mass deportations as a way to solve an issue. It's a dangerous road to start in on. Making the ethnic divides even more obvious and setting neighbor against neighbor even more than is already happening. Ukrainians have a lot of reasons to hate the Russians historically but to become a functioning democracy they have to work with all the groups of people in the country. Part of what democracy does is protect the minorities, whether they be political, ethnic, or racially part of a smaller group within the nation so they are not run over by the majority. The protesters have a valid arguement and should be heard, it's sad that it had to get to this point.

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So only the ones that don't agree with a pro-Western government. How democratic of you.