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Ultimate Muscle – Blythe has no size limit, suggesting she in turn never runs out of tissue mass, one can logically infer this means she can regenerate almost limitlessly. This also allows her to increase her strength –without limit- Verdict: Possible limitless regeneration and limitless strength, both god-like abilities, T9/10

Phenomenal Cosmic Power: Blythe has limitless endurance and immunity to diseases (and afflictions, whatever that means, presumably another form of blanket immunity.) Blanket immunity is banned in Arena (except in very special circumstances where immunity is granted by logic alone, such as a robot having no blood and therefore being immune to poisons.) Verdict: Limitless Endurance, Blanket Immunities, both godlike abilities in this context T9/10

Dem Bones: Blythe has ‘nigh unbreakable’ (so what, nearly invulnerable bones she can also protrude from her body as weapons or defences?) bones and more blanket immunities. Verdict: Super bone armour and weapons, nigh unbreakable wording is ambiguous, T9 powers.

Melty Blood: Super flexible blood, instant regeneration powers by consuming other blood, immunity to disease, poison and exsanguination. Verdict, T8, just on the cusp.

Outrage: Psionic defence (because Blythe obviously needs to cut off another entire method of attacking her other than physical force.) Vague notions of speed and strength being equivalent, no statistical limitations in sight. Super-dashes with no implications of having a cooldown, so essentially the ability to move faster than the human eye can see albeit in a jerky fashion. More strength without limit. Verdict: Potentially looking at Mach speed, who knows. Strength is limitless again. Some vague stuff about super shockwaves, who the hell knows any more. Verdict: T9, potentially T10, as any limitless ability is by necessity godlike.

At the moment, there's a serious issue with scope in some of the wording in Blythe's power-set. For example, you said that she can actually only run at about 100mph, but no-where does the sheet suggest that. There is also no particularly reason why she can't just use her dash ability constantly to maintain insane speed, because you don't mention any limitations. It's things like this that are causing issues for LeeRoy in judging if your character is fit for this setting. (For the record, T8 is the highest character tier level allowed in this setting, anything over that is just too powerful.)
I'll tell you what, I'll just do a quick tear apart break down of your sheet where I highly suspect the issues lie.
Actually you've just snipped his words right there.

'Well I can't say I hate the sheet, in fact I quite like it, but you are terribly vague with the limits of her ability. As it stands, she's infinitely strong and infinitely fast with infinite regenerative ability and infinite endurance. It seems that her only weakness is the inevitable heat death of the universe, and even that would be a slow process.'

I don't really need to interpret LeeRoy for you though, evidently you've provided sufficient data for him and your character is now accepted
oh wait

Evidently LeeRoy felt your description of these traits was insufficient to discern her abilities. I'm not interested in your characters hyper specific weaknesses, to (badly) quote someone here 'you can have a list of weaknesses a mile long, but if you can blister the skin from someone's body from a mile away, it doesn't matter.'

Look, I'm just trying to help things along as LeeRoy doesn't have enough time to look through sheets. Ignore me if you want, but don't then complain about your sheet not being accepted.
It would probably help NMS if someone compiled a quick list (with links) of the new people who have stuck around to be added to the OP list. I can do it if necessary, but it might be better if someone like Ded did it so he can Pm it to NMS or w/e.
@nitemare shapeI don't mean to pester you all. But my character has yet to be approved or the other one that means it's not approved.


I think Ded accepted it, and none of the others had any issues with it.
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You might be right, but still pockets. I mean Archers have arrows for a reason, they're not utility items that reveal the Arrow Phone, or Arrow Pillow. If they're made for toy sales in mind that's dumb. But what can you do.


Well, usually archers have a massive bag on their back that can only hold long thin objects, so if you want to make the most of that massive bag...
@Divinity
The argument isn't 'but Corban is here so we brought our big guns', the argument is 'Corban was allowed in, so why are you blocking characters who are of a similar strength'.


1. That's simply not true, Enki admitted like three posts back that he changed his original submission and entered Alex because of Corban, he even said so at the time and I tried to convince him not to, for the reasons Divinity just mentioned actually, that Corban doesn't really have an offensive personality, so you have to be actively wanting to fight him to get in a fight with him anyway.

Here's the quote, if you somehow missed it despite it being literally a few posts above your own on this very page.

This actually makes sense. None of us were gonna put in these characters till Corban got accepted.


2. LeeRoy has already explained that the difference between Corban's OP-ness and Alex's is completely different, and he's already explained what his issues are with Blythe. Both are fairly similar, they have abilities that are either redacted so there is no real indication of their scope, or just so vague that they could mean potentially anything. I think when he gets to looking at Blythe properly he'll probably accept it, but Alex as is barely registers as an Arena character. His abilities (as they are worded) leave so much up in the air he could be god tier for all we know.

In fact, LeeRoy spelled out exactly what was missing from Blythe's sheet, and you basically ignored half of what he said. He wanted hard-limits on your character's endurance, regeneration and tankiness, so he has some idea of what can actually defeat her. You just told him she's always as strong or stronger than an opponent and did nothing to answer his other queries.
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This actually makes sense. None of us were gonna put in these characters till Corban got accepted. That's the fact and truth of it. I was fine with Jen until I seen that, and then the others wanted to join in the OP sheninagins.


I understand that, but two wrongs don't make a right in this situation. I mean, if you specifically wanted to go after Corban, fair enough, but saturating the RP with too many powerful characters isn't going to help, we're barely getting anywhere as-is.

Plus, I reacted to Corban being entered from the outset in the exact same way as Blythe, if you remember. I'd have preferred it if no high tiers were entered this early tbh, not banned entirely, but brought in when the story actually needs them.
@MelonHead Fine, whatever, she's overpowered, how about we quit arguing about this since you supposedly don't care?


I said I don't care that she is overpowered (it's not like I'm forced to fight it), I didn't say I wasn't going to defend my claim that she's overpowered.

For the record, the reason why I care is because I've seen four (maybe five, can't remember) of these Multiverse re-iterations fail, and it's almost always down to the same reason. One person enters a high tier character, and it causes some kind of ridiculous arms race where everyone then follows suit. High tier characters then saturate the world, and high tiers suck for RPing, and all the lower tier players wonder what the point is when high tiers are everywhere and can do four or five times what they can with a wave of their hand, then everyone loses interest, arguments break out over OP characters, GG.

That's been the formula for the last four Multiverses, so I had this crazy idea, what if people refrain from entering the most powerful characters possible from the outset, and make characters that fit the context of the wider player base? Wouldn't that be great.

Unfortunately, I don't hold out much hope, but you never know.
@MelonHead

Faster than the human eye? That's way under a few thousand miles per hour. Sub-Sonic speeds are slower than 700 miles per hour, which is far away from a few thousand. If anything Blythe would be moving at a few hundred in short bursts. If you were standing still, looking across a street, you'd barely see a red sports car pass by at 100 mph. Negatmosk's character is definitely sub-sonic.

It also doesn't mean that the character would be able to punch with the force of a nuke. The Little Boy that was dropped in WW2 had a yield between 13 to 18 kilotons of TNT. Considering the speed we're talking? You're exaggerating by a lot dude. Chill.


Actually I underestimated how fast you would have to move to be invisible to the human eye, which is what the ability suggests. It's actually very ambiguous, you'd be better off just saying how fast you were going.

Read it and weep, matey.

Don't assume I make baseless claims, I always research these things first out of interest.

The nuke comment was a joke though, punching power is pretty difficult to calculate mathematically. Then again, looking at the sort of speeds necessary to become invisible to the human eye, maybe I was right, who knows. I'm not a physicist, i'm a goddamn historian
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