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Current Status? Look up synonyms for perturbed, grumpy, disinterested, and snappy, read them all out loud, and you'll have my status for pretty much every waking moment.
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If you're here, odds are that either you take issue with something I've said or done (in which case I would direct you to my secretary Johann, who will file your complaint and make sure that I get back to you shortly), or you've made some grave and horrible mistake. In either event, I welcome you, but encourage you to get on your way hastily.

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Victor is not a master of hand to hand combat. While trained in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu…


Did someone say BJJ? FITE ME!!1!1!1!!!
@JBRam2002

Worry not; I'm just here to give Lemons a hard time. I myself, caring little for either cyberpunk or fantasy* have no commitment to "purity". My only commitments are to good logic and ruining Lemons' time.

*While I'm not a "fan" of cyberpunk or fantasy, particularly when it comes to literature, in the case of RPs I enjoy them as mediums for creative storytelling, and thus I am here.
@RedGentleman

It's less "Mexican food made with French ingredients" and more "Mexican food made with Mexican ingredients and then also adding some French ingredients," as it doesn't lose any cyberpunk before the addition of fantasy elements. The rest of those examples see flawed, as in order for them to make sense, something from the original medium, i.e. contemporary English, would have to be lost. It is fundamentally cyberpunk, but other mechanisms have been added. It doesn't actually lose any of the original cyberpunk. From any metric I've seen, cyberpunk isn't measured by whether there is inclusion of elves and magic, but whether the fundamentals of cyberpunk itself are present.


In that case, I would direct you to American culture as a more complete allegory, since you seem to be missing the point, old friend. I certainly wouldn't call American culture, even in the early/mid 1800s, British culture. The base does not define the whole, as the introduction of such non-belonging elements—Irish culture, black culture, Eastern culture; orcs, elves, magic—change both the nature and the action of a world. In America, we get the melting pot phenomenon, complete with all its diversities, tensions, and nuances that make it so distinct from its homogenous Anglican base. In cyberpunk, the addition of fantasy elements creates new issues, new approaches to old issues, and warps the culture into something not dissimilar but nonetheless unique.

Edit: Upon further consideration, I direct you thusly en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox suggest that we stop wasting these good people's time with our insipid debate.
@Didgeridont I have to respectfully disagree. It's cyberpunk with elements of fantasy; doesn't make it less cyberpunk.


Doesn't adding foreign elements to a pool change the nature of the pool? If you take Mexican food and add French ingredients and style, is it still Mexican food? If you mix the syntax, poetry, and vernacular of a Shakespearean play—even only in medium doses—into contemporary young adult literature (i.e. clichéd garbage a very different taste), is it still either of them, or some fresh abomination meriting its own category? Sure, it contains elements of either particular food, genre, etc., but mixing such opposing components, so long as the proportions are not dramatically inequivalent, creates not just a new hue, but a new colour all together.

At least, that's my two cents.
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