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Do The Eagles Circle the Mountains?

How do you do the Eagles Circle the Mountains?

Its like pretending your an airplane as a kid. Everyone holds out their arms and does circles around each other. Ideally while screeching.

Do The Eagles Circle the Mountains?

There should be a question mark in the title. Elsewise it looks like you are asking us to do a hip new dance.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

Nation: The Technocracy of Topeka, And Specifically The North West Part Of Topeka Around Gage Park (TTOTASTNWPOTAGP for short)

Leader: General-Soldier Jim Sortame

History:
The American Government decided to be cruel to the Kansas, specifically the Kansas in an around Gage Park in Topeka. The threw them in jail for mean reasons and stomped on their faces sometimes so the people of Kansas, specifically those who lived near Gage Park in Topeka, decided they had enough. They found a leader in Jim Sortame, who was a master with every weapon and was so loved that the entire Army supported. Jim Sortame proved he was a bad-ass when him and the entire army tunneled under San Francisco and stole all the aircraft carriers and brought them to Gage Park, making the part of Topeka around Gage Park as powerful as the United States.

Jim decided that the part of Topeka would be a technocracy, and all the grateful scientists used their new technocracy powers to build many high tech jets. Jim told them to invent a B-2 bomber, so they are now working diligently to make a B-2 bomber. The hard working scientists all agree that it should only take one post.

Jim decided to build a mine and tasked all of the villagers to it, so now that part of Topeka that is in the vicinity of Gage park rules the economy world. When he discovered that Spain was invading Africa, he decided to send special agents to Spain to do some secret plans. Those agents ziplined bravely across the atlantic and shot up Valencia and took the secret plans to making more aircraft carriers.

A civil war is now happening! America has sent their army and they are evenly matched with those Kansans that live within the same zipcode as Gage Park. There are trenched and tanks, and the war is being fought all over the place too.

When Jim read wikipedia and decided that Anarcho-Capitalism is better than Technocracy, he made his entire Kansas Around Gage Park In Topeka an anarcho-capitalist nation instead of technocracy, and his people agree. He still gets those researches, though. But he also gets a lot of freedom now too.

The neighborhoods around Gage Park in Topeka are now economic center of the world. Their exports are oil, steel, special forces, and nuclear submarines.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

I've got a post finished. All I need to do is proof it and i'll post.

This will make your day if you watched 1990s sitcoms

Let's do this one then.

Who are your favourite historical leaders?

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Technically in a sense the Mongolian Empire was rather successful in its goals of creating a unified state and what brought it down wasn't any sort of military incompetence but Mongol law and tradition really, which was as successful as any Mongol would imagine. The thing with this post is that you're trying to frame Genghis Khan's ultimate goal in a modern or even a theory of a modern complex framework, even if "own the world" is an inevitably simple one. But I doubt the real goal of Temujin's conquest was really to do that. The mission of Genghis Khan was likely more along the lines of forming a unified Mongol state through finding and fighting external enemies, as they did. And then taking the people they subjugated and finding a common enemy for them and the Mongols and pitting the combined armies against them. Rinse, wash, and repeat until the Great Khan dies and succession dictates his sons get equal territories and powers.

The other strength of the Mongols was their practice of conscripting their subjugated states into their armies with more-or-less the same equal standing in its structure. Being tribal they didn't really bother with trying to justify any sort of religious morality under Tengrism as most people so they weren't as persecutory as the peoples they rolled in under their banner. So they were much more flexible than any other armies.

Plus it was the classical medieval era anyways, so modern nationalism didn't exist so there wasn't as rigid a definition of who you were in relation to your neighbors and your exact practices.

But in any case, I wouldn't call Genghis Khan a military failure since the division of the Empire went about as would be expected by Mongols at the time. And their Empires likewise.

But in the framework of the thread that is not "best Empire" but "best leader" the question of the Empire's health isn't really a factor since it occurred only after his death. If because he wanted to avoid his family beating the shit out of itself over who claims the entire thing so declared it all would be divided equally with each son being Great Khan in their own right. He was a by-gone factor by the time legal division happened.

It's a similar deal you find in other Empires. The Carloingian Empire didn't so much "collapse" as we might think but just sort of lapsed out of existence, because also fuck having French sons kill French sons. Or holding multiple titles of the same strength.

@Dinh AaronMk

A lot of this comes down to why Empires happen. Megalomania only describes a few of them. Most of the time, there is some social or economic drive that causes the Empire to happen. As you alluded to, Genghis Khan's Empire was a snowball. He united a group of relatively diverse warrior tribes. When your court is filled with people who have old feuds with each other, and they have a penchant for creating new feuds over the sparse resources in your lands, then you have to keep them occupied so they don't break everything you have created.

The Carolingian empire is sort of an after-the-fact concept. Early Medieval Europeans didn't think about these things like we do. To them, the Franks were a people, and the kingdom was a land-contract. From Charlemagne's point of view, splitting the Empire amongst his sons isn't the end of his accomplishment because he still accomplished what a Frankish King was supposed to accomplish: he saw Frankish hegemony spread across western Europe into places that had previously been held by other peoples. For him, dividing the Empire amongst his sons wouldn't be so much more different then a modern business mogul splitting up his corporate empire. The win is still there, it just isn't all under one contract. (this is a time when titles were fairly nominal. Hence why the Crown just sort of lapsed from the Merovingians to the Carolingians with no real contest. No civil war, no murder or rebellion. Just a haircut.)

Really cool civilization experiment minecraft server is looking for players.

I'm sort of already in something like that already, though weaker. It's more of a fantasy NRP with severe identity issues and an admin that's really weak in his authority and taste for confrontation.

@Dinh AaronMk

And on yours, you're the only one who actually makes anything =p

I did get into a server like this. Unfortunately, the leader of my civilization liked to antagonize people and he ended up getting our city put to the torch.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

Featuring Littlefinger and the Spanish Cazadores.

Who are your favourite historical leaders?

Augustus seems like a good choice. The Late Roman Republic has set up a clear pattern, where a strongman would come to power a while, there would be an interim, then another strongman would step up. Marius to Sulla to Pompey to Caesar, this pattern kept going at it kept drawing blood. But when Augustus stepped up, he played some master politics (this is a guy who could have won the game of thrones in a season) and managed to create something else entirely. Something that was relatively stable. That is, as far as it goes, pretty impressive.

Napoleon is another one. As far as warmongering megalomaniac's go, it is difficult to diss a guy who is all about bringing law and liberalism to a semi-feudal Europe. The worst thing that ever happened to Russia is that Napoleon lost.

Or maybe it was Sargon of Akkad. If nothing else, he would at least get to yell "First!"

Quotes of the Day.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

-Frank Herbert, Dune.