Vilageidiotx

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

In 1993, Hollings told reporters that he attended international summits because, “Everybody likes to go to Geneva. I used to do it for the Law of the Sea conferences and you'd find those potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva.”

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Shit, we need to remember that one for PoW.

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Where do manly ideals come from?

@ASTA

John Wayne

Actually, there was historically an obvious reason for manly ideals. The traditional house hold was the norm for so long because it worked. That's where those people who misrepresent patriarchy as something men did to women are getting it wrong. When all labor is almost entirely manual, when the ownership of land so directly correlates with somebodies position in life that simplified but unequal inheritance codes are the difference between peace and feuding, when the lack of machinery makes the biological inequality of strength between men and women more noticeable and important, a division of the sexes is the best way to do things. Capitalism and industrialism made that division an impediment, and feminism naturally followed. But there are still echoes left over from those old values, in the same way the severely outdated Abrahamic religions still stay around. People don't change quickly - we're drawn to traditions that make us feel comfortable and right. And that is fine. There isn't anything wrong with masculinity as a concept. But occasionally, just like any social force, it can create problems. Male rape victims being seen as weak is an example. The same way femininity will occasionally convince a woman to stay with an abusive man.

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I seem to have forgot this.

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That's not to mention that Greentext is supposed to be for simple shit, not for a line that lasts for an entire paragraph. It's a straight to the point way of getting to something directly and beating around the bush.

>Implying faggotry
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@Dinh AaronMk

As a general rule, actually using greentext to greentext outside of 4chan is cringey af.

bReAKInG nEwS

Celiac disease is conspiracy. Ever notice how it didnt exist before 2012

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I find that false rape accusation says otherwise. Again you seem to not care about the damage that these people do. I wonder how you would respond if MRA did the same, would just tell feminists to not be bothered? Or would you get up in arms screaming about misogyny

@Weird Tales

You're personalizing this. That's not healthy. If a person rapes another person, I would be opposed to it. If a person falsely accuses another person of rape, I am opposed to that too. As are everyone else except a few unbalanced people. I'm not going to check up with any movements to see which side I am supposed to be on.

In the trenches of the real world, shit gets muddled. Rape is especially difficult because you have to walk that fine line between false accusation and the complexities of proving rape. I can't pretend to be capable of answering that problem because it's way too muddled in the details. I'll leave that to the courts.

But what you're doing, and where you are going wrong here, is that you are taking these individual cases and framing them in the context of some epic battle between MRA and Feminism. Humanity is lost, and every actor in a rape case becomes symbolic of this larger struggle. Don't do that. It'll create a weird dichotomy where every rape or accusation thereof is a conflict between MRA and Feminism, not as it really is, a crime committed between individuals.

And for the record, I've never screamed misogyny in my entire life. I can't even spell it without double checking.

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If they pass laws then it becomes a problem. Hitler and his Nazis started out talking to the public and they didn't take over Germany with threats, they promised a better future and all other empty promises, I find that groups that claims to be righteous and immune to satire and criticism are a serious problem

@Weird Tales

Actually, the idea that Hitler rose to power peacefully isn't quite true. He used a hell of a lot of violence, even trying for a full-out violent take over as early as '23. Even after that failed, he used his SS paramilitary to eliminate political threats and bullied his way into office.

Moralistic forces can only take over a society if they have broad appeal. Religion tends to be the winner because it comes packaged with cosmological urgency. Fascism was only upheld with a certain amount of bullying. But tumblr's brand of extreme feminism? A movement that can't spread beyond teenage girls and sociology professors isn't going to become a real problem. It's just an easy target that means nothing.

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That still isn't equality. Also mra focus on feminism mainly because feminism has infected several institutions such as schools, government and have poisoned them. Atheism+ is that reality

@Weird Tales

Nope. They focus on it because they've fallen for the scapegoat fallacy. They don't try to improve themselves or the world around them. Rather, they blame their problems on an arbitrarily chosen scapegoat. It's like those Neo-Nazi's who blame their failures on other races instead of looking at themselves or the institutions that surround them. Picking a scapegoat is easy. It takes a certain amount of maturity and cool-headedness to recognize the more complicated reality, and too recognize that you are at least partially responsible for these things.

Feminism isn't a problem. There are certainly overzealous feminists in university settings, and on tumbler, but there are overzealous everything everywhere and most people don't pay them much attention. Don't get caught up on that.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

Jesus, give him a few more years and he might look like a ghoul.

@Dinh AaronMk

I suppose he does now.

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I'm not sure feminism is the boogeyman you're looking for here. Men don't talk about their problems because of the "manly" ideals that have been instilled in them over hundreds of years, before Feminism even existed. You don't see men in ads because women are the ones addressing this, because no one has spent generations building a social construct that tells women not to tell people about their shit and only deal with everything themselves.

@Sombrero

This.

The problem isn't that feminism is blocking male issues. The problem is that men's rights movements have focused all their attention refuting feminists and are spending no effort actually helping men. Women didn't get the vote by whining that men were mean. They marched, they protested, they signed petitions and made noise. People are generally more reasonable then everyone likes to think. If you make an effort pointing out the skewed design of child support, or the sexual stereotypes attached to abuse, people will eventually listen. Because really, in both sexes, the support is already there, it just hasn't coalesced yet.

Pet Owners: Help? [SOLVED!]

Pets are work. They are living beings. You aren't going to find one that isn't work. Anything that lives in a tank will come with the need to change the tank. Same with birds in a cage (plus birds are awful creatures that poop on heads). You're either going to have to accept the responsibility that comes with pet ownership, or find another way to supply the benefits you are looking for.