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Generally anything that floats will have extensive amounts of recoil.
Hidden 9 yrs ago Post by So Boerd
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Not so, actually. Rockets have no recoil because their forward momentum is countered by the backblast.
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It depends how you launch the rockets
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Indeed it does, but really I don't give a hoot. Do you want your air fleets to use big guns? Do you want them to use rockets? Do you want them to bomb their enemies or a little bit of everything? Air battleships and armored cruisers or just floating weapon platforms? It really doesn't matter, I appreciate that people have gone through the effort to do the math for such things, but to be perfectly frank I don't really care. Airships exist for thematic purposes, there's magical fucking antigravity clay, and steam engines are far more efficient and powerful than they have any right to be. This setting doesn't exactly need to be 100% perfectly logical down to the newton or joule or coulomb considering that this is steampunk, and steampunk and "math" have never made good bedfellows. Major breaches in logic should obviously be addressed, but for the rest things can be hand waved as needed. At the end of the day, take a deep breath, relax, and repeat the following to yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ugebzq3juE
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Indeed it does, but really I don't give a hoot. Do you want your air fleets to use big guns? Do you want them to use rockets? Do you want them to bomb their enemies or a little bit of everything? Air battleships and armored cruisers or just floating weapon platforms? It really doesn't matter, I appreciate that people have gone through the effort to do the math for such things, but to be perfectly frank I don't really care. Airships exist for thematic purposes, there's magical fucking antigravity clay, and steam engines are far more efficient and powerful than they have any right to be. This setting doesn't exactly need to be 100% perfectly logical down to the newton or joule or coulomb considering that this is steampunk, and steampunk and "math" have never made good bedfellows. Major breaches in logic should obviously be addressed, but for the rest things can be hand waved as needed. At the end of the day, take a deep breath, relax, and repeat the following to yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ugebzq3juE
Ahh... MST3K Mantra... speculative fiction's best friend.
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I'm not telling anyone they shouldn't make a big gun ship, (sorry if that is how it came across), but for my own sake and all like minded hard math people like me, I enjoy the challenge of making viable creations that can stand up to handwaved stuff while using themselves as little handwaving as possible. So really it's just my own thing.
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WEll, each to their own, now get mathsing on an steam powered orbital laser... so I have an excuse to have one
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Did that Christianity chat get started?
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WEll, each to their own, now get mathsing on an steam powered orbital laser... so I have an excuse to have one
I do math, not miracles.
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Math prohibits miracles
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So your saying that steam powered Mega Space Death Lazer is a no go? Damn... I'll tell my engineers to think up something new :(
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Here's the completed app.
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Very good app Keyguy. However all this talk of elan based airships got me thinking about how I should describe the AUNS Northern Birds. When I wrote it out I imagined the air force being more giant hulking battleships (very similar in appearance to actual battleships) that rely entirely on bombarding land fortifications and positions to make way for the much larger, and less trained, Liberation Army. Very much a WW1 military theory really.
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BTW, someone who is better at art than me should make an up-to-date map - that MS paint travesty still has Talossa on it, and looks like ass
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An an observer, I wonder why Elan is only being used for colossal ships. Why not other hover-craft? Hover-tanks, hover-cars. Hell, that dude with bicycles could upgrade to hover-bikes.
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I think it is mostly a combination of the lack of major modern conflict stopping massive shifts in military thought from happening, and for pure flavor reasons. Also, the GM said that Elan needs to be burned in a big burner in pretty large quantities, so I don't think it is at the point where such things are available for use on small vehicles
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An an observer, I wonder why Elan is only being used for colossal ships. Why not other hover-craft? Hover-tanks, hover-cars. Hell, that dude with bicycles could upgrade to hover-bikes.
Pepperm1nts... We meet again... . . . Ayy lmao.
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Very good app Keyguy. However all this talk of elan based airships got me thinking about how I should describe the AUNS Northern Birds. When I wrote it out I imagined the air force being more giant hulking battleships (very similar in appearance to actual battleships) that rely entirely on bombarding land fortifications and positions to make way for the much larger, and less trained, Liberation Army. Very much a WW1 military theory really.
As you can see, I went and said "It's the Navy but in the sky". I envision Vanjanan doctrine saying "100% of the world is covered by the sky, so if we rule the sky, then we rule the world". Expect combined arms to feature heavily, especially since my destroyers are fast and maneuverable little bastards. The Army marches in with airships above them, the airships start bombing the enemy while the Army hands back and fires away, then the Army pushes in along with an Aerial Dreadnought and pounds the remaining enemy soldiers to a pulp. You know, provided the enemy doesn't have AA guns. In that case, the Army hopes the King is leading them. Because he's (as you can tell) Charles XII.
An an observer, I wonder why Elan is only being used for colossal ships. Why not other hover-craft? Hover-tanks, hover-cars. Hell, that dude with bicycles could upgrade to hover-bikes.
No, no no. Not yet. That's for when we find out that its effect is actually reducing mass and can also be activated by flowing an electrical current through it.
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We're doing everything we can to keep armored warfare out. That's why we stopped the Communist Mecha: such things would pave the way for PANZERKAMPF, which while being fucking awesome is not the focus of the game at first. Also, it could not be reducing mass, otherwise people would know, because if mass was reduced not only would the laws of physics be out the window [even more so than now], but also collisions would not be a problem in the slightest.
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