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Here is my concept for Hume's human partner. I hope you enjoy.

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Laaame.

Pretty much suspected that from the start

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The way I understand it, what humans perceive is sound is a result of a pressure wave - whether audible or not to the human ear. That pressure wave then creates vibrations as it travels through a medium, thus disturbing it and creating those vibrations. Those vibrations are then translated as 'Sound'. As an example, a Sonic Boom travels at different speeds and sounds vastly different in air than it would in water, which is the result of the pressure wave moving through a different medium.

If that's not how it works then welp, everything I know is a lie and that's how I've always been using this sort of power in my like, ten plus years of RPing and boy do I feel silly.

That said, to make things a bit easier and less confusing, I'll just come up with something a bit more appropriate after I get some food in me.


Yes, sound is a type of pressure wave, but sound is the result of something, not the causation factor. You could say "She has the ability to cause vibrations that manifest itself as sound" but not say "She has the ability to create waves of sound that manifest themselves as something like an earthquake"

Sound is the result from the earthquake, not the thing that causes it. I think that's where the confusion lies for me. Your power shouldn't be to manipulate those waves, it should be to create those waves. The method you use to create those could then manifest itself as a sound.

I got caught up in the wording where you implied you could change sounds somehow, while in actuality, you're just creating general shockwaves. To call it sound is a bit of a misnomer, in my opinion.

I think laying out the exact science behind a power is the exact wrong way to go about it, though, because if we go into the technicality of how it physically happens, then it becomes a bit too grounded in reality for my taste. Try tweaking it a bit so it's not so scienc-ey.

(Also I might be off-base on some of this- if I'm wrong, apologies. Also apologies if I missed the point entirely. I am not smart cookie.)
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Here is my concept for Hume's human partner. I hope you enjoy.



Years later, the runaways remain attendants of Geiru, collectively claiming the honor of its longest-enrolled students. There's Ken, stern but self-conscious about his height, with his noble constructs Falx and Spetum; there's the free-spirited but short-tempered younger sister Mari and her monstrous construct Smoky; there's the oldest, Rita, sharp-witted and authoritative, with her loyal construct Bellagusta. And of course, there's Hugo and Hume. Altogether, they make a potent if slightly dysfunctional bunch, with nothing if not each other.


oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh no

Luge, I feel bad for you, but I'm not going to allow you to just casually decide what NPC's are around without asking me beforehand. While I suppose it's my fault for not saying this, I was going to use that reserved post in the characters tab as a log of any NPC's you guys encountered. Further, I was going to have last-years too. While I'd maybe be fine if you'd asked me ahead of time with one of those running around, and me writing it in to the best of my ability, I'm not really okay with you casually dropping 3 NPC's(7, if counting constructs) on me like this.

I'm especially not okay with creating this particular dual-wielding construct user either, as while they'd come into play, I very much have an idea of my own for them. You're right in assuming they'd be a last year, and of course you'd be privy to the surface-level information required to make interacting with them not a nightmare, but it's very much not this character. Making multi-partnerships 'commonplace' also really stings for me, as it should be an extremely rare trait. Technically any human could do it, but the amount of stress you'd be putting on your body would be akin to exercising beyond your limits every day. At some point, you just break, which is why it takes both a trained and talented mind to be able to pull this off. I really wish you'd asked me this beforehand, because it feels so awkward to have to casually dismiss a big crux of your backstory.

As it stands, I really can't accept this character, I'm sorry.
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I got caught up in the wording where you implied you could change sounds somehow, while in actuality, you're just creating general shockwaves. To call it sound is a bit of a misnomer, in my opinion.

I think laying out the exact science behind a power is the exact wrong way to go about it, though, because if we go into the technicality of how it physically happens, then it becomes a bit too grounded in reality for my taste. Try tweaking it a bit so it's not so scienc-ey.

(Also I might be off-base on some of this- if I'm wrong, apologies. Also apologies if I missed the point entirely. I am not smart cookie.)


Nah, I think you got it right. Now that I had a chance to think about it, I think that sounds pretty much what I was going for in a general sense. Sorry about the science thing. I do have a tendency to do that with stuff, hah.

I'll get to rewording it soon with that in mind, and if that still don't work I'll think about doing something else.
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oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh no

Luge, I feel bad for you, but I'm not going to allow you to just casually decide what NPC's are around without asking me beforehand. While I suppose it's my fault for not saying this, I was going to use that reserved post in the characters tab as a log of any NPC's you guys encountered. Further, I was going to have last-years too. While I'd maybe be fine if you'd asked me ahead of time with one of those running around, and me writing it in to the best of my ability, I'm not really okay with you casually dropping 3 NPC's(7, if counting constructs) on me like this.

I'm especially not okay with creating this particular dual-wielding construct user either, as while they'd come into play, I very much have an idea of my own for them. You're right in assuming they'd be a last year, and of course you'd be privy to the surface-level information required to make interacting with them not a nightmare, but it's very much not this character. Making multi-partnerships 'commonplace' also really stings for me, as it should be an extremely rare trait. Technically any human could do it, but the amount of stress you'd be putting on your body would be akin to exercising beyond your limits every day. At some point, you just break, which is why it takes both a trained and talented mind to be able to pull this off. I really wish you'd asked me this beforehand, because it feels so awkward to have to casually dismiss a big crux of your backstory.

As it stands, I really can't accept this character, I'm sorry.


Whoa, I didn't realize I was treading such dangerous water. I had no idea that we weren't supposed to make NPCs. You might consider adding that to the rules. Anyway, it's no problem for me to just eliminate the whole last paragraph.
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Whoa, I didn't realize I was treading such dangerous water. I had no idea that we weren't supposed to make NPCs. You might consider adding that to the rules. Anyway, it's no problem for me to just eliminate the whole last paragraph.


It's pretty common etiquette, my man. I've never ran into a situation before where someone just casually drops 3 NPC's on a GM without asking. I also said "no more than two characters" per person- I didn't want people creating more populace in my world than I could be reasonably asked to handle.

Either way, removing the last paragraph doesn't really get rid of the crux of the issue. The backstory is still implied as having a lot of them flee together. I should apologise again, though, because there's a few more issues I failed to touch upon in my last review because I was taken aback by the suddenness of the issue I described above.

Firstly, the name "hugh" isn't all that commonly Japanese. Is he someone born in the American area, fled by boat and transferring? Because that would make an amount of sense, as long as you could also justify him knowing the language. Ayesha gets away with it because she was named by a hermit and doesn't even have a last name, and the constructs get away with it even more because they're not humans. Speaking of which, you're also missing a last name.

And I'm also going to go more in-depth as to why I'm not accepting the genetics idea. Simply put, genetics are not an absolute given. While it's possible to have a controlling set of parents who might have those traits, it doesn't necessarily grant their children the same. Even if we ignore how incredibly unlikely it is that two people being able to handle multiple constructs meeting and breeding is, their offspring would have no guarantee of being able to hold the same traits. Genetics are a construct of many, many generations, including ones with lesser or more diluted genes that are still present. You also have to keep in mind that life force is akin to stamina, and closely linked to it, but not entirely the whole cake. It's also intrinsically tied to your magical ability- something inherently supernatural. It's an almost uncontrollable force.

It'd be more accurate to say that with a mix of intense training, the right genes and a much higher-than-average magical affinity, you'd have a shot at wielding two constructs and an exceedingly rare chance at 3. This isn't something you can achieve via simple aggressive breeding. While it could be that his parents were very abusive and tried their best to get this as a result, and be delusional enough to think it works, I wouldn't count on it working with any certainty. It'd give him enough reason to flee, but I don't feel comfortable in using it as a justification for why we have a multi-construct user running around.

It also seems like a weird goal in general to set, because the ability to wield two, while extraordinary, is not exactly a world-shaking event by itself. It wouldn't suddenly make them some kind of messiah, and the person in question would still need to have two constructs willing to follow them. While people like this would obviously be valued in peace-keeping scenarios, there's very little utility it would give outside of that. It's more akin to an abusive parent who never got the chance to be the best pianist in the world specifically raising their child to be just that. Just having lots of kids doesn't make for the best pianist though, you have to nurture it carefully and methodically with purpose.

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It's pretty common etiquette, my man. I've never ran into a situation before where someone just casually drops 3 NPC's on a GM without asking. I also said "no more than two characters" per person- I didn't want people creating more populace in my world than I could be reasonably asked to handle.

Either way, removing the last paragraph doesn't really get rid of the crux of the issue. The backstory is still implied as having a lot of them flee together. I should apologise again, though, because there's a few more issues I failed to touch upon in my last review because I was taken aback by the suddenness of the issue I described above.


I wasn't planning to play them or even really have them involved, just off in the background somewhere. I do apologize for overreaching in that regard, and I'm sorry that the issue was so severe as to take you aback. Had I known what I was doing was such an affront, I never would have done so. In addition to removing the last paragraph I have edited the backstory so that they separate not long after fleeing.

Firstly, the name "hugh" isn't all that commonly Japanese. Is he someone born in the American area, fled by boat and transferring? Because that would make an amount of sense, as long as you could also justify him knowing the language. Ayesha gets away with it because she was named by a hermit and doesn't even have a last name, and the constructs get away with it even more because they're not humans. Speaking of which, you're also missing a last name.


The name is 'Hugo', which is at least formed of syllables that exist in Japanese. I'd reason that somewhat crazed, supremacist characters might choose names for their kids that set them apart, and also that a kid who explicitly wants to get away from his family might disavow his last name, but I can certainly add one in, and if you do really want a normal Japanese name, I can do that too.

And I'm also going to go more in-depth as to why I'm not accepting the genetics idea. Simply put, genetics are not an absolute given. While it's possible to have a controlling set of parents who might have those traits, it doesn't necessarily grant their children the same. Even if we ignore how incredibly unlikely it is that two people being able to handle multiple constructs meeting and breeding is, their offspring would have no guarantee of being able to hold the same traits. Genetics are a construct of many, many generations, including ones with lesser or more diluted genes that are still present. You also have to keep in mind that life force is akin to stamina, and closely linked to it, but not entirely the whole cake. It's also intrinsically tied to your magical ability- something inherently supernatural. It's an almost uncontrollable force.

It'd be more accurate to say that with a mix of intense training, the right genes and a much higher-than-average magical affinity, you'd have a shot at wielding two constructs and an exceedingly rare chance at 3. This isn't something you can achieve via simple aggressive breeding. While it could be that his parents were very abusive and tried their best to get this as a result, and be delusional enough to think it works, I wouldn't count on it working with any certainty. It'd give him enough reason to flee, but I don't feel comfortable in using it as a justification for why we have a multi-construct user running around.

It also seems like a weird goal in general to set, because the ability to wield two, while extraordinary, is not exactly a world-shaking event by itself. It wouldn't suddenly make them some kind of messiah, and the person in question would still need to have two constructs willing to follow them. While people like this would obviously be valued in peace-keeping scenarios, there's very little utility it would give outside of that. It's more akin to an abusive parent who never got the chance to be the best pianist in the world specifically raising their child to be just that. Just having lots of kids doesn't make for the best pianist though, you have to nurture it carefully and methodically with purpose.


I'll admit that I overreached in the multi-constructs thing. I knew that it was supposed to be an extraordinary phenomenon, but I hadn't quite comprehended the degree. I can strike the whole thing from the record. Are those all the issues you have?
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The name is 'Hugo', which is at least formed of syllables that exist in Japanese. I'd reason that somewhat crazed, supremacist characters might choose names for their kids that set them apart, and also that a kid who explicitly wants to get away from his family might disavow his last name, but I can certainly add one in, and if you do really want a normal Japanese name, I can do that too.


alright so

I admit my wording was super fucky on this one because I'm writing at midnight and my brain is running out of juice. What I meant to say is that it's not a very common name. Even then, the syllables you're describing are "Hi" "Yu" and "Go" since "Hu" is actually more a "Hyu," a mix of the "Hi" and "Yu" sounds. "Hu" does not quite exist on its own in ye olde nihongo. It's "fu". If I want to be anal about it, technically his name should be "Hyugo" and I think a general "Yugo" works much better in that regard, but I'm not going to be on your ass about it. The lack of a surname + the fact he fled made me think of a westener, though. It was just unclear in that regard, I'm fine wit the name.

I'll admit that I overreached in the multi-constructs thing. I knew that it was supposed to be an extraordinary phenomenon, but I hadn't quite comprehended the degree. I can strike the whole thing from the record. Are those all the issues you have?


Yeah, pretty much. Sorry for being on your ass about it; there's just certain factors I'm much more hesitant on allowing you guys to play around with than others.
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alright so

I admit my wording was super fucky on this one because I'm writing at midnight and my brain is running out of juice. What I meant to say is that it's not a very common name. Even then, the syllables you're describing are "Hi" "Yu" and "Go" since "Hu" is actually more a "Hyu," a mix of the "Hi" and "Yu" sounds. "Hu" does not quite exist on its own in ye olde nihongo. It's "fu". If I want to be anal about it, technically his name should be "Hyugo" and I think a general "Yugo" works much better in that regard, but I'm not going to be on your ass about it. The lack of a surname + the fact he fled made me think of a westener, though. It was just unclear in that regard, I'm fine wit the name.

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Yeah, pretty much. Sorry for being on your ass about it; there's just certain factors I'm much more hesitant on allowing you guys to play around with than others.


No worries. I knew it was unconventional going in, and actually that if I wanted to get a real name with as close a pronunciation as possible that I should go with 'Yugo', and that 'Hugo' with Japanese pronunciation -to my understanding- would be more like 'hoogo'. Anyway, since things are fine, I'll go ahead and put the modified sheet along with Hume's into the Characters tab.
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alright with that situation out of the way I'm gonna go zonk out now. I was going to drop an update of some kind today of what I'd be doing, but it fell flat because I got sidetracked with a million other things. I'll tell y'all the deets tomorrow(or, technically, later today) if I don't forget again.
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Alright welp, made the edits. Hopefully this explains things much clearer. If not, well then I dunno what to say other than RIP me, time to go come up with something else a bit simpler.

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Alright welp, made the edits. Hopefully this explains things much clearer. If not, well then I dunno what to say other than RIP me, time to go come up with something else a bit simpler.



This all looks fine to me. I'd say you even went into more detail than needed, though that's not really a bad thing. Consider your duo accepted now.

Anyway, @Rabidporcupine@BurningCold, you two are the last ones I know of that wanted to get a sheet out. I don't really want to wait too long, though, so I'm going to say y'all have about 3 days from when this goes up to get those finished for review if you're still intent on that.

For everyone else, I'll try to get the RP started within a similar timeframe. Admittedly, despite my abundant free time, stuff's still been just a mite hard to keep up with, so I might not be done right away. I'll still do my best to throw all you into the thicket of things sooner rather than later, though. Mostly just need to go asset hunting for now so I don't have to magically conjure up characters about 10 minutes before they show up in the story proper -w-
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Damn, coulda made Adamas a motorcycle instead.
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Sorry about taking so long for my character, I was working on a post, but had to take a break for a few days due to being sick enough that I think I might literally have thrown up my appendix. Don't ask how, because I don't know.

Anyway, I have a very important question. Say my construct was a shapeshifting scarf that can morph into a katana or a humanoid costume form for the cool magical boy-esque transformation scenes. Aside from 'edgy weebs wet dream', what do you think would be most accurate to put in for type? Like, do you think he would fit better as an Abomination, some other kind like Costume? Or just Scarf, maybe. Just having a bit of trouble figuring out what would be most suitable.
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Sorry about taking so long for my character, I was working on a post, but had to take a break for a few days due to being sick enough that I think I might literally have thrown up my appendix. Don't ask how, because I don't know.

Anyway, I have a very important question. Say my construct was a shapeshifting scarf that can morph into a katana or a humanoid costume form for the cool magical boy-esque transformation scenes. Aside from 'weebs wet dream', what do you think would be most accurate to put in for type? Like, do you think he would fit better as an Abomination, some other kind like Costume? Or just Scarf, maybe. Just having a bit of trouble figuring out what would be most suitable.


"Living object" maybe? Iunno dude, just use an adjective that describes it.
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Probably a bad idea to give an idiot like me so much freedom, but hey, as long as you don't regret it...
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Alright, here I am swooping in at the last possible second with my two brand new original characters, Shyboy and Edge! Let me know how much they suck, and if that much is too much.



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Out of curiousity, what happens to the scarf if it becomes a bomb?
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I can't see that happening unless something else somehow makes him one. It's not like he has gunpowder or any other kind of explosive elements. Also, he's pretty durable, so it probably wouldn't work even if he was wrapped around gunpowder. But... if for whatever reason he was turned into a bomb and it did explode him, he'd probably just turn back to dead fabric.
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