[OOC] accepting all challengers

[Max Shadow]

okay, sorry i'm late but i had a crap day yesterday and didn't really want to put any of that into this. on that note.....

sorry if this sounds rude but what idiot would hold something as heavy as lith would be parallel to the ground with one arm without holding it at it's center of balance? that would put excess strain on his arm and leave him vulnerable to the types of attack he's expecting. the best positioning for what he has would be;
kneeling down with lith in his right arm, using lith's guard to protect his arm, the head on the ground in on his left and in front of him. holding geth in his right, armored arm to protect his right. like this he can move lith to defend most of his body from above, the left and the front with minor protection on his right which is supplemented by his right arm. but due to me not thinking clearly when posting i didn't include all that and at any rate lith would be placed with the tip in the ground to reduce strain on the fighter.

second, while size wise lith isn't that large the surface area of it is roughly twice what it appears due to the 'petal' blades (which i keep calling petals due to each being about the same size as a standard rose petal) that cover the entire surface and overlap, also counting the small gaps between the rings that allow them to spin. giving the entire thing as a whole a very large surface area.

this one i have to call into question. looking at your sheet you only mention that he discharges the electricity, not that he can control the path it takes meaning that really his attacks shouldn't be able to arc in the manner you mentioned. with how you put his ability it can only be interpenetrated as he can launch bolts of electricity but he can only fire it in a direct path. meaning that while it doesn't follow a straight line is you were to you could draw a straight line through the path it took like a graph. you made no mention of being able to control electricity, only generate it, so really as soon as it has left your body it would be nothing more than an aimed lightning bolt and therefor unable to pull off the precise hit you're saying he's using.

another note about his lightning, both his ability to charge it fully while still fighting normally, and it's base power that you stated is "capable of outright killing a human, leaving burn marks and smoke rising from their remains" mixed with your fighters ability to use it as an essentially unblockable/undodgable attack comes across as op in my opinion. as seen when you one hit killed the only opponent you actually killed. your charge has little to no effect on your character where a normal charge attack has some kind of drawback while it is charging, despite this you have displayed him being able to use even advanced moves such as the sword without and drawback while charging your bolt. the only noted drawback being that he can't use the hand he's charging with which can be avoided since he doesn't have to use a hand to charge.

this one is covered in the first bit, since he knew he was against an electric enemy he covered as much as he could, expecting an attack coming from just his opponents general direction.

and sorry for this one, but it's my interpretation of the power you're using. with that said the power you've described comes across as something that you're not going to let me come away from alive if i do take any of the damage from it. after all this was the description you used for an attack against another character, that has less charge than this one.
" A white-hot bolt of lightning thundered from his palm straight at the grenadier's face, potent enough to burn a hole clean through a modern tank, along with setting the entire crew ablaze from sheer electrical current. The sound and light alone were twice that of a flash-bang grenade"
with that kind of power and you saying that i should be taking more than a little of the force. when, with the kind of power you've described 'a little' damage would be the loss of the arm holding lith and severe internal scaring and damage leaving my fighter crippled and basically dead.

all it sounds like you're arguing is that i take the drawn out version of you saying 'nope you're dead cos i fired in your general direction'

[Max Shadow]

okay, sorry i'm late but i had a crap day yesterday and didn't really want to put any of that into this. on that note.....

sorry if this sounds rude but what idiot would hold something as heavy as lith would be parallel to the ground with one arm without holding it at it's center of balance? that would put excess strain on his arm and leave him vulnerable to the types of attack he's expecting. the best positioning for what he has would be;
kneeling down with lith in his right arm, using lith's guard to protect his arm, the head on the ground in on his left and in front of him. holding geth in his right, armored arm to protect his right. like this he can move lith to defend most of his body from above, the left and the front with minor protection on his right which is supplemented by his right arm. but due to me not thinking clearly when posting i didn't include all that and at any rate lith would be placed with the tip in the ground to reduce strain on the fighter.

second, while size wise lith isn't that large the surface area of it is roughly twice what it appears due to the 'petal' blades (which i keep calling petals due to each being about the same size as a standard rose petal) that cover the entire surface and overlap, also counting the small gaps between the rings that allow them to spin. giving the entire thing as a whole a very large surface area.

this one i have to call into question. looking at your sheet you only mention that he discharges the electricity, not that he can control the path it takes meaning that really his attacks shouldn't be able to arc in the manner you mentioned. with how you put his ability it can only be interpenetrated as he can launch bolts of electricity but he can only fire it in a direct path. meaning that while it doesn't follow a straight line is you were to you could draw a straight line through the path it took like a graph. you made no mention of being able to control electricity, only generate it, so really as soon as it has left your body it would be nothing more than an aimed lightning bolt and therefor unable to pull off the precise hit you're saying he's using.

another note about his lightning, both his ability to charge it fully while still fighting normally, and it's base power that you stated is "capable of outright killing a human, leaving burn marks and smoke rising from their remains" mixed with your fighters ability to use it as an essentially unblockable/undodgable attack comes across as op in my opinion. as seen when you one hit killed the only opponent you actually killed. your charge has little to no effect on your character where a normal charge attack has some kind of drawback while it is charging, despite this you have displayed him being able to use even advanced moves such as the sword without and drawback while charging your bolt. the only noted drawback being that he can't use the hand he's charging with which can be avoided since he doesn't have to use a hand to charge.

this one is covered in the first bit, since he knew he was against an electric enemy he covered as much as he could, expecting an attack coming from just his opponents general direction.

and sorry for this one, but it's my interpretation of the power you're using. with that said the power you've described comes across as something that you're not going to let me come away from alive if i do take any of the damage from it. after all this was the description you used for an attack against another character, that has less charge than this one.
" A white-hot bolt of lightning thundered from his palm straight at the grenadier's face, potent enough to burn a hole clean through a modern tank, along with setting the entire crew ablaze from sheer electrical current. The sound and light alone were twice that of a flash-bang grenade"
with that kind of power and you saying that i should be taking more than a little of the force. when, with the kind of power you've described 'a little' damage would be the loss of the arm holding lith and severe internal scaring and damage leaving my fighter crippled and basically dead.

all it sounds like you're arguing is that i take the drawn out version of you saying 'nope you're dead cos i fired in your general direction'

[drallinix]

Max I don't wanna seem rude, but your guy literally just got hit by a guy wearing durasteel armor at mach 1 and rolled it off. Not only that, but now he can just absorb a lightning bolt with Lith. That is kind of OP I mean taking the hit from my guy even if it was a glancing blow would have broken a couple of things. On top of that his speed is a problem even if he is fast

A. my guy is moving at mach 1(that's the usual highest accepted norm for arena characters)
B. Arty didn't move he literally just blasted electricity up and down on you. It wasn't fired in your general direction since he knew where you were.
C. even if you were fast enough normally to absorb the bolt with lith you just shrugged off a hit from mach 1. Your guy would be at least somewhat dazed or winded which would slow him down. Maybe he shouldn't be outright dead, but he needs to take damage from that because he cannot dodge and logically he would be unable to muster a block. Again I don't want this to come off as angry or rude, but its just from what ive read.

[Schradinger]

You're right about how he'd be holding the lance, when I originally wrote that portion I was operating under the assumption that Lith was spear-shaped, which isn't the case.

For the size, it would only be slightly larger than a standard lance, unless you had the petals standing on end and sticking straight out, but then there would be gaps through which the electricity could pass without striking it (assuming that the petals face the tip of the lance).

With regards to Arty's electricity, he can very definitely control it. If he couldn't, no bolt would ever make it ten meters, much less a hundred. If he couldn't control it, it would ground itself the instant it left his hand and just plow right into the ground or the nearest grounded object. This isn't the first time he's arced a bolt around something, and nobody had an issue the first time it happened.

As for charging, the biggest drain with the sword is its creation, when he's expending a bunch of power to get it made. Once its made, there's very little maintenance because it's a fairly closed system. The sword was also made in a post prior to the one where he began charging his bolt, so there isn't a noticeably substantial effect on the power of either. If he'd made the sword while he was charging the bolt, there would definitely be a drain on the power of the bolt, just as there would be if he were to use any other powerful active ability (like creating gusts of wind).

Most of the wording in the description of that previous bolt was artistic fluff and hyperbole. All it was meant to do was get across the fact that the guy it was hitting wasn't going to get out of it alive, because he simply didn't have the durability required to withstand 2000 degree heat and all the electrical power that was generating it. He also had no means of launching a viable defense.

In closing, I'm honestly torn right now. On the one hand, the bolt was specifically fired in an upward arc then coming down toward your character's head, and your character's lance was specifically held in between the two combatants, which would put it out of position to block the lightning bolt without substantial movement. Getting hit by an undefended bolt would very likely kill your character, even with his superhuman physical stats, and that's what would be most likely to happen with all variables taken into consideration. On the other hand, I don't want to be a dick about this and force you to kill your character, and while the lance could absorb enough energy to make the attack survivable, it wouldn't negate it completely like you say it does in the original post. Either way, you would need to take damage, and while the logical, no-nonsense part of me wants to play this out in the most realistic way possible (your character dying), the good sportsman part of me wants to cut you a break and let the facts slide just a bit this time. So I leave the choice up to you. Realism and character death or sportsmanship and we keep fighting. Either way, I'm not going to hold anything against you (as long as you don't completely ignore the damage).

Though Drall has a point about the Mach 1 hit. That would hurt like hell, high gravity and glancing blow or not. You also would have likely been flung a couple dozen feet through the air and not been able to grab the dagger.

[Schradinger]

You also mentioned

Max Shadow said another note about his lightning, both his ability to charge it fully while still fighting normally, and it's base power that you stated is "capable of outright killing a human, leaving burn marks and smoke rising from their remains" mixed with your fighters ability to use it as an essentially unblockable/undodgable attack comes across as op in my opinion. as seen when you one hit killed the only opponent you actually killed.

A .45 ACP is also capable of killing a human in one hit, and if you load it with incendiary ammo, it'll create the smoke and burn marks too. Killing a human in a single attack isn't a great feat, it's pretty standard for any kind of offensive power, especially in the intermediate tier. Anyone with a .45 can launch half a dozen such attacks in a single post if they so choose, and I'm limited to two (one per hand). Contrary to movie lore, two successive hits from a .45 and you won't be walking away from it. There's an off chance you'll get carted away in an ambulance, but even that's pretty slim. An attack from a .45 ACP is also just as un-dodgeable for a character with the speed yours possesses as a lightning bolt is. The only thing missing in an attack from a .45 ACP loaded with armor piercing ammo (that is present in an attack from my lightning bolt) is the intermediate-tier telekinetic that can curve the bullet (or the killer from wanted, who might not even be intermediate tier).

Point is, being able to guide my lightning on a pre-determined course is no more OP than being able to do the same with a bullet. What would be OP is if I could change the pre-determined trajectory mid-flight in order to continue the attack on a target fast enough (or lucky enough) to avoid it.

All that said: You may be right. Arty's current powerset may be OP. This is the first fight I've used it in, so there was nowhere else to work out the kinks. Even if he is though, he wouldn't be the only one, and I'm going to use him at the level he was approved for.

[Max Shadow]

first off, before i come back with my reply, i just want to apologize for the number of times it posted. i was rushed towards the end of typing it and panicked slightly when the site didn't seem to put the post up (trying 7 times on two computers >__<) i'll hopefully reply and edit my post at sometime tonight.

whoever it is that is after me please don't wait for me unless you need to.

[bushidoxisamu2]

Fixed my character

alex

Name: Alex

Nickname: "Monster" or "Demon"

Age: he forgot but knowing he is well older then a decade

Race: Considered a Demigod but has his fathers powers

Occupation: the judge/ executioner/ or a chaotic hero

Height: 5'9

Weight: 125"lbs

Character tier: Intermediate

Personality: murderous and sadistic. Intellegent in the way he will figure out a way to bring down the most challenging foes.

Bio: ???

Powers:

Hades Fury: using powers from his father he is able to create black flames on his hands which he can use in many different ways like throwing fire balls or blow out like a dragons fire, making a fire wall or barrier, and to use as a little trick to his close combat by using it like boxing gloves or to burn victims in a grapple and to break out of one. Burning as hot as 635 degrees Celsius (tier lvl: intermediate)

Demonic presence: from the dark aura that radiates from his body that acts like a thick shadow aura that manifest , he uses it to create different forms to aid him in a fight. For an example like the shadowy aura covers his arms to form extended fist or arms to reach, grab, or smash his opponents(you can compare it to how naruto fought sasuke when he had the first tail.) or even to create a weapon like manifesting a bladed weapon in his hand or arms. Can do the same but forming on his back to form eight arms or tentacles that extends five meters outwards. They pack 4000 newtons of force behind them which is enough to break bones of a regular human being. While using the tentacles they can stick into the ground and come back out to keep his targets in place for a grapple so he can hold the target still for an attack. One post prep needed an target most be stationary to complete the transition. Or instead of a grapple they can root itself to the ground and come back up to form shadow spikes come out and produce one square meter each. Giving it 25 foot radius range for his attack. (tier lvl: intermediate)

Shadow Puppets: using the Demonic presence he uses the shadows to form shadow figures to create dark hydra heads to come out of his tentacles from his back. Same amount on his back but doubles for each hydra head cut like the real but only up to 32 heads until they are gone completely. They are apart of him since they are mere puppets. They bite with 87psi or acts as cannons to deliver his hades furry to make a volley attack.This power is greatly affective in a cemetery where there is deceased. Because he can use his tentacles to posses up to 4 tier 1 undead warriors to fight for him they also have the appearance of flight but only from the fact they are controlled by strings like puppets. He needs concentration to do either one or both. For how durable they are they are as durable as average elite soldiers with no special power other then their previous combat abilities. The coarse are mainly a distraction since they can't do any really damage to anything non human. Producing two at a time with corpse and one with hydra to which doubls on itself when head taken off. One post prep for one but two or more for both with continuous concentration(tier lvl: intermediate to high)

Hell's Bounds: forming chains that cover both his arms to create metallic whips to fight. Can use hades fury to ignite the chains to burn victims in grapples. Or to be use to swing out or make tight turns when moving at fast speeds. (Tier lvl: intermediate)

Black Plague: blowing out of his mouth to create a cloud covering a patch of the area to poison his victim, showing rapid symptoms of it till dead. Not effective if they are wearing anything that keeps it out or an armor that is in closed with a filter in it. It must be inhaled for its effect to work and takes up 10x10 feet of square inch unless wind is involved. A small huff takes three days to die if not treated correctly but the days shorten depending on how much was breathed in. As time passes the symptoms would show and will be damaging to the host. At first it acts like tear gas to causes a burning sensation to the eyes and mouth, but not to the producer. (Tier lvl: intermediate)

Demon wings: he creates them using the shadow puppet ability and uses them to fly and using hades fury in his hands to propel himself so he can go fast as 150-200 mph to able to turn to avoid attacks. Can also be used to block an opponent if in a fist fight. With a three feet wing span. One post prep to pop out wings(tier lvl: intermediate)

Regeneration of the dammed: as the title pretty much explains it. He can able to regenerate his body if its damaged it any sort of way. Of an arm is cut off then it regrows simple as that with the same rules as his other limbs. However, He uses a lot of his energy so he will be fatigue fast if done more then twice.Also being attacked by a holy object or striked by a magical weapon makes the process to either slow down or not to be effective. Only exception is if beheaded then the head stays off. Has to be done of combat due to it drains his ability to fight.(however he can make artificial limbs if one is cut off with the help of demonic presence)(tier lvl: intermediate)

Bats of the night: bursting into a wave of bats to easily go through his adversary fir either dodging and retreat. Requires a one post prep, if a chunk of his bats are gone then he might loose an arm or a leg(tier lvl: intermediate)

Natural abilities:

Unholy sacrifice: when bad goes to worst, this natural ability tends to be the last resort in any given battle. Demons and devils makes contracts to give what anyone wants so using the same concept but without no pen or paper. Paying with any ability or natural ability in order to get a boost in the end. For example: sacrificing a natural for his power to give it extra strength or a new type which can go the same but reversed process and the enchantment ratio is 2:1. (Saying like giving up my wings to gain half my strength to my ground speed or getting rid of my fast movements to better improve on strength by increasing it by half.) sacrificing a limb will regenerate his original power with the cost of an arm or a leg, but that's only for a life or death situation. (Could use demonic presence to make a temporary arm until finding a suitable replacement) (tier lvl: intermediate to high)

Prowess of a demon: His strength and ability is something not to be reckon with. His senses are far past any normal human being to the point he is an elite demon. Making him nimble on his toes and flexible to dodge attacks but it doesn't make him like neo dodging bullets. Heavy yet fast pinching from lift half a ton on each arm(boosts on prep with demonic presence by times 2)and speeds to go up to 95mph on ground. If all power has been lost then that's all he has since he is not human.

With the shadow puppets ability he can basically use the dark aura around him to make "physical shadow puppets" which can be used to attack, defense, or anything in between.(tier lvl: intermediate)

Masochist: since the fact he is a special hell spawn. He can basically withstand any kind of torture. Also not being able to be intimidated no matter what the circumstances are. He is from hell of coarse seen the worst(tier lvl: intermediate)

Power othe the Underworld: After his last battle with his creator. When he consumed hades after his defeat and thus taking the power of lord death along with it. The power becoming his core in which is his fuel for his everyday life even when not in combat. This can be seen on how the atmosphere around him changes from dim to black from the aura he gives out around his body. He can use the output to slowly turn the area of the battlefield dimmer to dark that requires three post.(tier lvl: intermediate )

Weaknesses: beheading and fatigue. The only problem with fatigue is that he can use unholy sacrifice to keep up his murderous killing spree. Eventually it will kill him when there is nothing more to sacrifice. Given the fact that his relies on shadow like entities to do combat with it is not as easily dispersed when fighting in the day time however it is significantly weaker. But in presence of holy items/weapons were to come into contact then it goes down even further for durability. If it is not seen then his dark abilities will be useless unless proper preparations are met.

[Schradinger]

It's better, but there are still some things that I mention in my prior post about the character that haven't been addressed. I would also recommend increasing the size of the wingspan to something around twelve feet, since a three foot wingspan wouldn't be even remotely large enough to carry a 5'9" man weighing 125 pounds aloft. That's only 1'6" per wing. Generally, a good rule of thumb for winged characters is to make the wingspan 2x greater than the character's height, though you can shorten or lengthen that a bit if you prefer more maneuverability or more endurance respectively.

I hate to be "that guy", and I apologize in advance if this makes me sound like a jerk because I honestly don't mean it that way, but there are a lot of grammatical errors in that CS that make it very difficult to read. Normally I try not to make an issue out of it, but in this case good grammar is pretty necessary in order for us to obtain a decent grasp of the character and his abilities. If you could try and clean it up (maybe read it aloud to help work out better phrasing and punctuation), I'd be really appreciative.

All that said, don't let this discourage you from participating. I know how frustrating it can be to have to go back to a CS after you've already written and altered it once, but once the kinks get worked out you'll have a much cooler character than you did originally (I'm speaking from experience on that). :)

[drallinix]

guy reminds me of Adrian except Adrian fights head up and has an enormous demon maul. Though I find Karnix much more interesting.

[Vordak]

Meh. I don't really have the motivation to post, so i'd rather drop out. Feel free to finish Rauchnaut off.

[Max Shadow]

quiet, you're up. i'll try to fix my post today, just been distracted and shit. likely going to kill myself off and work on a different fighter. not sure though

[Max Shadow]

i finally got around to making an edit. quiet, please try to hurry up and post.

[Schradinger]

Sorry to do this again Max, but he can't turn to shadow. He just used that ability last turn and the cooldown hasn't expired yet.

[Max Shadow]

fixed......again

and feel free to post, quiet has had at least 3 days since it became his turn

[QuietThinker]

Oh crap. I've been waiting to see Vordack this entire time. DAMMIT. SKIP ME.

[Max Shadow]

i'll have a post up tonight. drallinix you have till the end of the day to post.

[drallinix]

allright gimme a bit ill have one up.

[Max Shadow]

you know there are 4 fighters still in this >-> one of which is still fresh and unchallenged......on that note....

[Schradinger]

Max, wouldn't the retrieval of the weapons and return to his original spot require at least two teleports in a single post? He'd have to materialize in order to grab the weapons, then initiate a second teleport to return to where he was.

[Max Shadow]

i was originally going to ave only part of his body vanish, but someone decided to interrupt. and really he could partly materialize, only enough of him to grab the weapons and turn them to shadow forming rather that the majority of him meaning that technically it would only be one move rather than two or three. this being possible through how he's actually teleporting, where he's really converting his body into millions of tiny shadows and re-assembling himself from that in another place, which is why his movements through this method aren't instant. you and i discussed that part of it a while ago