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You just described the majority of teenagers, whom probably fill 90% of this site. You also described a good portion of spam in particular, femininity aside, who reside in spam in most cases to get 'something off their chest' or use it as a 'closet of sorts' for their angst against things on the outside world. Congratulations. I would suggest that instead of judging a specific individual, that you try to understand them. However, this is spam and it will, as in all things spam, remain convinced that it has something better to offer.


Actually agree with you a bit but the delivery obviously is turning people against seeing your point. Also id temper it with the fact that spam isnt always that close minded, and when it is its either part of the tough front or down to the same inexperience that causes the angst you mentioned.

There's never a point to painting all of spam with the same brush, either.
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Get the fuck out of here, communist hippie socialist scum.


Fuck you, you old fascist dickwaffle. It's okay Jorick... I understand... Now Feel the love bro... Feel all of the love in the world... be happy man.
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You totally missed the point. It isn't that he was young or even a spammer, but that he was a person just like anyone else. It is obviously, as my pointing out suggested, a commonplace thing. The Mod title does not mean you are no longer capable of screwing up, or not suddenly have a group of people start hating you for whatever thing you've done, whether completely legit or not. Same for Kadaeux. He was obviously not fit for a Moderator position, but that doesn't make him any less of a human or any less deserving of being understood. You can argue it all you want, but disrespect of another person whether you agree with them or not is not the answer. That would be like me saying, that since we've now had this little back and forth, I should know dislike you cause of the way you view things, when aside from this, you could be an awesome person that I'm not taking the time to understand. Now, how silly does that sound?


Okay well this is just part of the spam culture, so wat youre saying sounds like misplaced idealism.
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What you consider idealism, I consider a blindfold. I don't expect any agreement, though. It's totally fine. :)
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Also, I think "spam culture" is just an excuse and scapegoat for what goes on. However, I'll end it at that. I have no intention of getting anyone worked up.
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What you consider idealism, I consider a blindfold. I don't expect any agreement, though. It's totally fine. :)


Wait are you saying you consider your viewpoint a blinfold?

Theres always a time and a place and here theres less of a point to trying to prevent conflict. Often in communities like this, conflict within certain bounds keeps places alive. Too little and they die off. Places like this are dying anyway, coz of social media.
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Also, I think "spam culture" is just an excuse and scapegoat for what goes on. However, I'll end it at that. I have no intention of getting anyone worked up.


It can be a scapegoat, like almost any rationale can. Whether it has been? Not much.
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I don't know if I'm reading the tone of these posts correctly, but I can feel passive-aggressiveness clouding the air.
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If you are legitimately curious and want to continue this conversation, then you can message me. If you're just interested in making argument, then I would suggest you enjoy your time elsewhere. As I said, I do not wish to keep a conversation out in the open that may cause conflict with other users.
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I don't know if I'm reading the tone of these posts correctly, but I can feel passive-aggressiveness clouding the air.


Precisely why I've ceased that particular conversation.
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I don't know if I'm reading the tone of these posts correctly, but I can feel passive-aggressiveness clouding the air.


nah not from my end, this is an interesting topic to discuss.
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Hey Sherlock, mind signing a nice friendly treaty to show the world how much of a nice and caring and friendly person you are?


Sorry, I think you're confusing me with someone else.
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If you are legitimately curious and want to continue this conversation, then you can message me. If you're just interested in making argument, then I would suggest you enjoy your time elsewhere. As I said, I do not wish to keep a conversation out in the open that may cause conflict with other users.


Of all the debate and argument you've encountered in your time in spam, I can't imagine anything provocative I've said that would give you that idea. It's just a basic debate.

If you feel defensive of your ideas and not really open to public scrutiny, that's understandable.
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Sorry, I think you're confusing me with someone else.


:(

How about you sign to show the world how much of a mean, horrible, uncaring, dictatorial corrupt person you are instead?
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Of all the debate and argument you've encountered in your time in spam, I can't imagine anything provocative I've said that would give you that idea. It's just a basic debate.If you feel defensive of your ideas and not really open to public scrutiny, that's understandable.


Oh no. Not at all, Doivid. The fact that I've offered to continue this conversation with you elsewhere is solely because you seem to be a respectable person. Not the opposite.
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Sherlock Holmes said
Sorry, I think you're confusing me with someone else.


Probably confusing you with Sophi. She was the nicest and caringest person everest.
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Probably confusing you with Sophi. She was the nicest and caringest person everest.


I hate to dispell the aura but considering how much thankless grunt work she did for people behind the scenes, this is probably unintentionally accurate.
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Moderating is truly a thankless job, specially in a circumstance in which it is completely volunteer.
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:(How about you sign to show the world how much of a mean, horrible, uncaring, dictatorial corrupt person you are instead?


Sorry, I think you have me confused with someone else again.

I'm neutral, if anything. I live by my own rules / sense of justice -- 'good' and 'bad' are simply too black and white for me.

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Probably confusing you with Sophi. She was the nicest and caringest person everest.


True.
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Sorry, I think you have me confused with someone else again. I'm neutral, if anything. I live by my own rules / sense of justice -- 'good' and 'bad' are simply too black and white for me.


And thus you adventure across the forum with cyborg watson as you clean up crime.
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