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Cynder said
Originally, the movie was intended to be much darker with Elsa as the scripted villain and "Let It Go" is the remains of the villain song from what I know (don't quote on me that).


You're most likely right because check out this deleted scene



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Haven't watched, not interested.

The closest I can get to caring about Frozen is me wondering where Walt Disney's body is cryogenically frozen.
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you're right, what I should have said was to me it seemed like Frozen didn't back up the message with a good story like all of the other Disney classics and the message was too simple in my opinion, in Beauty and The Beast, the message was more meaningful and it also taught a lesson about how it important to be good and beautiful on the inside instead of the outside. and I have to agree with what one person pointed out in their post, if the movie was about sisterly love then why was there not much development and problems between Elsa and Anna? once again it shows that Disney did not think very thoroughly with this movie and it makes it feel like a Disney sequel. Most people who are hyping up Frozen seem to only look at the fact that it was movie about sisters and that none of the characters got married, that to me is a bad excuse to hype a movie that much.


Essentially, I agree with you. The main point that doesn't make me want to watch it is the lack of a decent villain. Disney villains
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Essentially, I agree with you. The main point that doesn't make me want to watch it is the lack of a decent villain. Disney villains


I agree, I did not like the twist with Hans, to me that felt like a last minute decisions to get a villain in the movie. Elsa should have been the villain and that would have made Let It Go the villain song and when you listen to it, you can see it being changed around a bit to make it a great song for a villain. Not to mention if Elsa was the villain then that would have made the title a lot more metaphorical with Frozen referring to the freezing of Elsa heart and becoming a cold and bitter villain who loses her humanity do to her powers. That would have made a much better film and would have given kids a smart film. Instead we got a messy plot and not very well developed cast of characters, and to make matters worse, people are trying to make Frozen seem like a masterpiece and quality children entertainment. I'm sorry but Disney can do better than this and need's learn that.
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If I may offer a point: it seems like Frozen didn't hit its target audience anyway. Honest, none of us would think it overrated if it was a kid's favorite movie, but it's the fact that teenagers and adults seemed to have liked it more. That's probably why we find it so annoying, were colleagues and friends sing "Do You Want To Build a Snowman" out of the blue or even worse, if you have a Tumblr account and are swarmed with Frozen symbolism.

Now, I'm not necessarily saying it's bad, but it was already mentioned somewhere in this topic that "people need to stop digging so deep into Disney movies" and I entirely agree. I still feel like the overall message should be obvious, in a cute or silly way to entertain kids. Frozen did not hit its target audience as much as it was intended to and that's why we feel it was overrated.

Agreed with Yog Sothoth, Disney can do better. I still think of Oliver and Company and Tangled as two of the best Disney movies of best time - that's just matter of opinion though!
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If I may offer a point: it seems like Frozen didn't hit its target audience anyway. Honest, none of us would think it overrated if it was a kid's favorite movie, but it's the fact that teenagers and adults seemed to have liked it more. That's probably why we find it so annoying, were colleagues and friends sing "Do You Want To Build a Snowman" out of the blue or even worse, if you have a Tumblr account and are swarmed with Frozen symbolism.

Now, I'm not necessarily saying it's bad, but it was already mentioned somewhere in this topic that "people need to stop digging so deep into Disney movies" and I entirely agree. I still feel like the overall message should be obvious, in a cute or silly way to entertain kids. Frozen did not hit its target audience as much as it was intended to and that's why we feel it was overrated.

Agreed with Yog Sothoth, Disney can do better. I still think of Oliver and Company and Tangled as two of the best Disney movies of best time - that's just matter of opinion though!


I think it is very important that kids have smart movies because it encourages them to think more and not be simpleminded. I find it sad that in today's world, children's entertainment treat kids like they're not very smart and for the last several years, Pixar and Dreamworks have been making more smart movies than Disney which is sad because Disney was the same company that pushed the limits with movies like the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

I need to watch Tangled because after hearing what some people have said, I wished I had seen that in theaters instead of Frozen. right now I can't to see How To Train Your Dragon 2
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I agree. I also didn't like Tangled that much, though my sister loved it.

Thought you all might be interested in this picture;
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Indeed, it is. My brother is addicted to its theme song, 'Let it Go' and has learned to play it's instrumental version. Every morning, he turns up the volume on the electric keyboard and I just wake up to a piano version of the song. It's a nice cover, but having to hear the same thing playing everyday, every morning is maddening.
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No adult should be watching Disney movies unless they are doing with a child. No adult should enjoy a Disney movie ever, it should be something you suffer through for the sake of a child.
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Revans Exile said
No adult should be watching Disney movies unless they are doing with a child. No adult should enjoy a Disney movie ever, it should be something you suffer through for the sake of a child.


Wow, aren't we expressing an opinion like it's a fact

Different strokes for different folks.
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No adult should be watching Disney movies unless they are doing with a child. No adult should enjoy a Disney movie ever, it should be something you suffer through for the sake of a child.


are you serious? movies like Fantasia and the Hunchback of Notre Dame were clearly for adults as well as kids. Ignorant statements like that are really ridiculous and show a lack of knowledge
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are you serious? movies like Fantasia and the Hunchback of Notre Dame were clearly for adults as well as kids. Ignorant statements like that are really ridiculous and show a lack of knowledge


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