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This looks pretty pimpin~
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Try again, Path :P
And I haven't even gotten to Water abilities x_x


Woah you work fast!
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Yeah? A lot of it is just coming out.

I'm trying to give paths for both literal elemental usage, and figurative. I'm trying to think of what, physically, the elements of water and fire might boost.
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Well maybe fire would be like a damage buff or purging toxins from the body.
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As far as figurative, water could have some form of precision boosts, perhaps swifter combat movement?

Also, I'm kinda sad. I had a really good idea for an Ascendant, but I might just have to make a knight/monk to balance it out...
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Because everyone else is going Ascendant?

Yeah, it looks like it's going to be popular.
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I got myt eye on the monk.
Speaking of which. How about telekinesis as a skill for the wind, if it's not there yet. I haven't checked yet
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Knight all the way son.
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Well I gave telekinesis to the Ascendant already, but I actually don't see any reason not to give it to two classes.
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Actually now that I think about it you don't really need to make it a skill, because the way I see it so long as you'vegot enough control of wind you're already capable of the same thing as telekinesis. Your just moving things with wind instead of mind. Lol sorry for not realizing that earlier
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Well that wouldn't really work as well as you'd think. For one thing, air blowing on an object to move it is very different from forcing it to move independently. I could, for instance, pull a stone from a creek bed with telekinesis. But because it's under water you couldn't really reach it with your control of air, not without moving all of the water first, and holding it out of the way while your air surrounds and lifts the stone. It's just a much more wasteful way of manipulating objects.

For another, depending on exactly what you were doing, you'd need air moving in all directions at once. It would take way more power with wind than anyone's likely to have.

I have, however, put in a similar but distinct technique, with different pros and cons. Levitate.
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Alright, this looks pretty dope. I'm in. Earth focused knight for sure, cuz earth can get really offensive or defensive in combat, depending on how it's used. Also, I'ma be going full 30 in earth, so I wanna see some kinda really cool skill for that, if it isn't too much trouble.
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Well that wouldn't really work as well as you'd think. For one thing, air blowing on an object to move it is very different from forcing it to move independently. I could, for instance, pull a stone from a creek bed with telekinesis. But because it's under water you couldn't really reach it with your control of air, not without moving all of the water first, and holding it out of the way while your air surrounds and lifts the stone. It's just a much more wasteful way of manipulating objects. For another, depending on exactly what you were doing, you'd need air moving in all directions at once. It would take way more power with wind than anyone's likely to have. I have, however, put in a similar but distinct technique, with different pros and cons. Levitate.


Oh okay. I see what you mean. Yes, moving things just with air is possible, but its not really practical or efficient. Lol I guess that means crushing things with just air moving towards something from all sides is out of the question too1 > . <

How about, as a skill for wind, the ability to open up mental channels of communication with other, none monks? You said the monks talked amongsts themselves in that fashion, right? Is there any reason it couldn't be done with others?

Also, how about a wind based form of sensing like a monk can feel changes in the air around them for a certain distance?

I'm not sure what it would be called, but what about the ability to see things through the eyes of others? It would be sort like talking but instead your seeing things with their eyes, or experiencing things with their senses, but just that, it's not a form of mind reading.
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All cool ideas, I'LL probably put them all in.
though, the first and last one would be fire(because it relates to spirit).
Or maybe spirit will be both combined. Yeah, I'll probably go with it that way.
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All cool ideas, I'LL probably put them all in. though, the first and last one would be fire(because it relates to spirit).Or maybe spirit will be both combined. Yeah, I'll probably go with it that way.


I'm glad you like them. Though, i'm still a little confused on what storm, the combination of wind and fire, is. I thought it was lightning, is that correct? If so, lightning is electricity, and electricity is just moving electrons. So what kind of abilities would that entail? To me it seems like a skill tree which would allow for the manipulation of matter, but since the ascendants have that already, how would storm work?

Oh, and I have a few more suggestions for monk skills!

First, how much control would a wind user have over wind? Would they be able to control the exact ration of what makes up the air around a given area? For example, there's always a mixture of gases that make up the atmosphere. Could a monk move the wind around so its all carbon in an area or oxygen? If not possible as an innate ability, how about it as a skill?

Also, what about the ability to project images into another person's mind, and even confuse their senses?
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I'm changing it up, it's now spirit instead of storm.

That air idea is a little too close to matter manipulation. Also just imagine having to keep track of each individual atom and molecule. That's too much.

Projecting images into people's minds might be a go, though.
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Well, maybe instead of something closer to matter manipulation, they could manipulate air and fire in such a way as to create minor illusions? Something that when you touch breaks, but to the visible senses are tricks.
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Ascendants already have illusions, but I've got more monk ideas
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I'm a bit unclear what spirit is, exactly. Is it supposed to represent the personification of will, or does it involve the afterlife? ?
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More like one's mind and being.

EDIT: so yeah, will would fall under that.
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