[OOC] The Prophecy

[Mercinus3]

Just a heads up that I should be able to get a post up tomorrow as I've been busy with an exam tomorrow.

EDIT; I've posted. I wasn't sure what position Morgan would be in so I added the choice to how Ixion would react in that. Let me know if that's a bit too much, Jack or Rhae.

M3

[yoshua171]

You know, I swear these three will kill each other before the Fixer gets the chance xD

[Rhaevnn Xeno]

You know, I swear these three will kill each other before the Fixer gets the chance xD

@yoshua171

But aren't some of the greatest friendships formed in the fires of bitter enemies? :P

Anyway, a few clarity questions:

@Mercinus3 Since I'm going to have Morgan fall over (seeing that he's pretty close to the initial pillar as it is), what do you mean Ixion "stepped over" Morgan? Was he approaching from the front and stepping over the vampire's body lengthwise, or is our assassin stepping over him from left shoulder to right shoulder? (or something along those lines)

@Yoshua171 How did I'on know Morgan's name? Unless I was so careless to reveal it so soon, he should be just a nobody. But then again, Morgan's had run ins with the law and such... It could be plausible. And, of course, if you're planning a grand reveal to why Morgan's name is known, don't spoil it. I do love a grand reveal. :3

[yoshua171]

No, that was entirely me forgetting that I'on didn't know. So I can easily edit the name out. It wasn't intentional.

[Mercinus3]

@Mercinus3 Since I'm going to have Morgan fall over (seeing that he's pretty close to the initial pillar as it is), what do you mean Ixion "stepped over" Morgan? Was he approaching from the front and stepping over the vampire's body lengthwise, or is our assassin stepping over him from left shoulder to right shoulder? (or something along those lines)

@Rhaevnn Xeno

It's the latter case as he appears behind him (so along those lines).

@Yoshua171 How did I'on know Morgan's name? Unless I was so careless to reveal it so soon, he should be just a nobody. But then again, Morgan's had run ins with the law and such... It could be plausible. And, of course, if you're planning a grand reveal to why Morgan's name is known, don't spoil it. I do love a grand reveal. :3

@Rhaevnn Xeno

No, that was entirely me forgetting that I'on didn't know. So I can easily edit the name out. It wasn't intentional.

@yoshua171

Yeah, I was a little surprised by that, which was reflected in the post :P. I'll edit out the mentions of Morgan in the post.

M3

[Shienvien]

There, I wrote up a short post, if after a fair bit of delay... Jack/cthulu are free to go if they feel like it. Legion will be posting himself sometime in the nearer-ish future.
(I suppose it's Rhae's turn in the City?)

(And since I occasionally continue conversations where they left off as though no time as passed, especially in writing...)
What do you yourself call the "devils" in your folklore? Indeed the same word as - for instance - the Christian devil? And, perhaps more importantly, do you have a separate native word for demons? (Estonian, for instance, only has a native word for devil, but not for demons - and the "devils" in Danish/Norwegian do not get translated into "devils", but end up being translated to minor equivalent entities in our own folklore ... which I suppose makes sense, both for the similarities, and the fact that due to cultural bleedover, those might technically be the same thing.)
We don't really have trolls or witches in the same sense, though (our witches were humans and originally typically good) ... we did have various giants, though (our second-largest island is pretty much named "Land of (the) Giants"), as well as serpentine things (mostly older folklore) and undead, spirits, ghosts, and more spirits. (The being I intended to use for the De Seil Carnival RP was sort of inspired by one of the creature-types in our folklore.)
(Hmm... I've mostly known lindwurms as a type of dragon - and typically spelled with "u" rather than "o"...)

(Just to note, Aemoten would probably still be referring to random deities as devils - mostly because he's a Sekalyn, rather than a Rodorian, and their understanding and classifications are somewhat different. Such as Deliph being "the Devil of War"...)

[Dark Jack]

We do have different words for them, yes (devil will be "djævel", and demon translates into "dæmon", so they are actually rather close to their English equivalents (and just to mention it because it seems interesting, the English word "imp" would be translated into "smådjævel" - literally "little devil"), and it is, indeed, the same word we use about the Christian devil (though we usually make a distinction simply by adding a definite grammatical article to the latter - "djævelen"). That said, we do have certain rather glaring difficulties when it comes to connecting Danish terms to particular mythical creatures, since each mythical creature usually have a number of different names, and different creature-names can typically be used about any number of different creatures. Leprechaun, for instance, is really hard to find a Danish word for... we'll call them "trolde" (trolls) or "nisser" (I guess... elves? Gnomes? It's a word that refers to a lot of small mythical creatures). Reading Tolkien's novels is also a rather different experience in Danish, by the way, since a very wide array of different creatures in it - ogres (I'm not even sure ogres are in there, but I mention them all the same because they are on the list), trolls, orcs, goblins and hobgoblins (Uruk-Hai or something similar in Lord of the Rings) are, in Danish, all simply "trolde"... trolls. The distinction is made by linking to their usual habitat instead (goblins are cave trolls, orcs are mountain trolls (though often referred to as "orker"), trolls are forest trolls, and so on and so forth... collectively they are trolls, though).
Trolls are very common in Danish folklore, and are actually often surprisingly human in their behavior compared to the otherwise more commonly recognized as human-term, witches. Witches can just as easily be monsters as they can humans in our folklore, too, but the common trait for all witches is that they are uncompromisingly evil... which doesn't really make sense, since when we look at our real witches, and those featured in Norse mythology, they've almost exclusively been good entities. We have a lot of much more obscure creatures, too, a lot of which are actually somewhat interesting to compare to more widely known entities. (Danish elves, for example, have always been evil and enjoyed luring people (usually men) to their death in various gruesome ways, often by seducing them in one way or another. The seduction is very rarely with any sexual nature, surprisingly, but usually belies on tempting them into somehow betraying the way of life that was commonly acceptable at the time.)
Or lindworms (or lindwurms or however you want to spell it; in Danish it's "lindorm"). As the name suggests they have always been viewed as snakes here, albeit sometimes with legs. There's never been a lindworm with wings, though, and they always breathe lethal toxin. Some refer to Jörmungandr as the greatest of the lindworms, too. (I could never get used to call it Jörmungandr, somehow... in Danish we usually refer to it as an approximate translation of its other name, the Midgard Serpent (Midgårdsormen).)

[Rhaevnn Xeno]

Aaand posted. If anything needs to be fixed, let me know!

@Dark Jack I know I'm probably assuming a lot here, but I figured if Morgan could learn how to filter soul ambiances, then, in theory, he should be able to also filter certain magic affects. Granted, he would be very poor at it, seeing that he would have to self teach himself, but if the shoe fits.

[yoshua171]

So fun fact about this spell. It's not going to fade, which I did describe in my post. This spell was not directed at one person. Its effects are going to last several minutes, which is why I'on felt the mana go out of him like that. So while his instincts could snap him out of the relaxed state, he will return to it unless he constantly pulls himself out of it and that's just part of the effect.

The rest of the effect makes anyone within the Area of the spell (which is within the building and slightly surrounding it) try to avoid aggression or violence. Also, the effect doesn't just cause relaxation (related to the word "calm," in the spell), but also reduces stress levels. I also specified that this spell is effective enough that it has caused things fighting I'on in the past, to become totally passive and stop attacking altogether (and continue to be passive while he killed them. Though for a short period of time).

This isn't something like his spell back at the gate that he tried to use to calm the situation (where he literally just said "calm,") where you can easily brush it off. This is a powerful, quite effective spell, that is effective even in a combat situation of high stress. While the initial calming/stress relieving effect is stronger than the sustained effect, the overall effect is still strong enough that it should stop Morgan from just throwing Ixion off of him so roughly.

Like...he'd feel immensely uncomfortable the moment he tried to throw him. He'd feel fine when he grabbed and stopped Ixion's arm from moving the blade to his neck.

I...actually should've addressed this earlier when Ixion approached Morgan and very aggressively pressed a weapon to his neck. He's free to do these things, but it's going to make him feel more uncomfortable than Morgan would feel with a blade against his throat.

Edit: Shien, Jack, tell me if this is going overboard at all or exceeds what I already described in my post in regards to the spell's strength and effects. Though I am almost certain that it is this effective.

Edit p2: I do say that I am quite happy for I'on that his spell, nonetheless, managed to help keep Morgan at a manageably sane level xD

[Dark Jack]

@Dark Jack I know I'm probably assuming a lot here, but I figured if Morgan could learn how to filter soul ambiances, then, in theory, he should be able to also filter certain magic affects. Granted, he would be very poor at it, seeing that he would have to self teach himself, but if the shoe fits.

Rhaevnn Xeno

"Filter"... by which you would mean that he would be able to block out certain energy patterns? Eh, I'm sorry, but sniffers actually don't work that way. That's the reason so many sniffers end up losing themselves and turn numb: they are literally incapable of shutting out anything within range of their senses, and are uncontrollably bombarded with awareness of every bit of magical energy in their vicinity.
"Filtering" magical effects would be similarly improbable (borderline impossible). The only way to actually block out mind-affecting magic is with magic of one's own, which sniffers are inherently incapable of. The only way one could get away from mind-affecting magic without using magic oneself would be to simply shake it off and break it with one's will and intellect.

Yoshua... hmm... I've been pondering the properties of this spell for a while, and I think there are certain things I'd have to address, at least. The first one would be that the spell - or practically any mind-affecting spell of even basic potency - would ever linger in an area to continue to affect individuals within it over time. Rather, a mind-affecting spell would typically disperse its energy in an instant as it activated its effect, and then latch that energy onto anyone within the area of effect to specifically affect them, not the area around them. There are a lot of different reasons that this is the only way something like this would be practically doable, some very pseudo-scientific in relation to the universe and would take a while to explain, but the most fundamental reason is that the energy it would take to permeate an area with an effect of that magnitude would kill you. Not just the caster, though no ordinary mortal would be able to survive losing that much magical energy, but everyone within the area of effect. The energy would have to be so immense that people would actually suffocate and die. (Spells that affect minds directly with any kind of reliability take huge amounts of magical energy, much larger than spells of other types.)
If it did latch onto individuals and functioned by having the energy focus on those people, then the above issue would be dealt with. There is another thing about mind-affecting spells, though: the energy fed into casting the spell is depleted a lot faster if the target(s) try to resist the effect, and the stronger the will to resist the spell is in the target, the more energy will be required to even affect it at all. It would take an awareness of what one was trying to resist to be able to do so, though. Simply knowing that one's mind was being affected by magic would not be enough to allow one to resist such a spell; one would have to be able to identify how one's mind was affected, in this case mainly by curbing aggression. If one knew this and did not want to be affected thusly, then additional energy would be drained in order to subdue the target's will, which would shorten its duration... or, if the spell proved insufficient to do so, simply render it ineffective.
So really, there'd be no guarantee that any kind of effect would linger at all, even a discomfort when performing aggressive actions. That said, an effect like this would probably be pretty hard to identify... one would probably notice that one was being manipulated, certainly, but recognizing how one's mind was being affected would be difficult, which would make resisting it similarly difficult.
For the same reason I imagine that anyone affected so strongly that they would not even stop someone trying to kill them would either have to simply not want to defend themselves, or be exceptionally susceptible to mind-affecting magic (an example of the latter would typically be very weak-minded individuals, such as often witnessed in late-stage piaan-addicts).

[Rhaevnn Xeno]

"Filter"... by which you would mean that he would be able to block out certain energy patterns? Eh, I'm sorry, but sniffers actually don't work that way. That's the reason so many sniffers end up losing themselves and turn numb: they are literally incapable of shutting out anything within range of their senses, and are uncontrollably bombarded with awareness of every bit of magical energy in their vicinity.
"Filtering" magical effects would be similarly improbable (borderline impossible). The only way to actually block out mind-affecting magic is with magic of one's own, which sniffers are inherently incapable of. The only way one could get away from mind-affecting magic without using magic oneself would be to simply shake it off and break it with one's will and intellect.

@Dark Jack

Okie doke then - edited my post to reflect this ruling. :3

[yoshua171]

Yoshua... hmm... I've been pondering the properties of this spell for a while, and I think there are certain things I'd have to address, at least. The first one would be that the spell - or practically any mind-affecting spell of even basic potency - would ever linger in an area to continue to affect individuals within it over time. Rather, a mind-affecting spell would typically disperse its energy in an instant as it activated its effect, and then latch that energy onto anyone within the area of effect to specifically affect them, not the area around them. There are a lot of different reasons that this is the only way something like this would be practically doable, some very pseudo-scientific in relation to the universe and would take a while to explain, but the most fundamental reason is that the energy it would take to permeate an area with an effect of that magnitude would kill you. Not just the caster, though no ordinary mortal would be able to survive losing that much magical energy, but everyone within the area of effect. The energy would have to be so immense that people would actually suffocate and die. (Spells that affect minds directly with any kind of reliability take huge amounts of magical energy, much larger than spells of other types.)

If it did latch onto individuals and functioned by having the energy focus on those people, then the above issue would be dealt with. There is another thing about mind-affecting spells, though: the energy fed into casting the spell is depleted a lot faster if the target(s) try to resist the effect, and the stronger the will to resist the spell is in the target, the more energy will be required to even affect it at all. It would take an awareness of what one was trying to resist to be able to do so, though. Simply knowing that one's mind was being affected by magic would not be enough to allow one to resist such a spell; one would have to be able to identify how one's mind was affected, in this case mainly by curbing aggression. If one knew this and did not want to be affected thusly, then additional energy would be drained in order to subdue the target's will, which would shorten its duration... or, if the spell proved insufficient to do so, simply render it ineffective.
So really, there'd be no guarantee that any kind of effect would linger at all, even a discomfort when performing aggressive actions. That said, an effect like this would probably be pretty hard to identify... one would probably notice that one was being manipulated, certainly, but recognizing how one's mind was being affected would be difficult, which would make resisting it similarly difficult.
For the same reason I imagine that anyone affected so strongly that they would not even stop someone trying to kill them would either have to simply not want to defend themselves, or be exceptionally susceptible to mind-affecting magic (an example of the latter would typically be very weak-minded individuals, such as often witnessed in late-stage piaan-addicts).

@Dark Jack

I can modify it so that the "area of effect," is more like a detection field. It detects how many people are in the area (unless specific people are targeted) and then directs the available magical energy to them as needed to fuel the spell (but only the amount of magical energy allotted to the spell, obviously).

However, what I am getting from this is that the spell would still be quite effective meaning that logically Ixion and Morgan should have had more trouble breaking out of its effects, correct? Mostly considering the fact that I'on primarily used his hands to weave the runes, rather than say the words super loud. He was mouthing them and I don't recall Ixion or Morgan being able to read lips (correct me if I am wrong). Plus, neither of them would've been paying much attention to him while he was preforming the spell due to what was going on within that time frame.

So...since neither of them would be privy to the exact nature of the spell and due to some of its effects being rather nebulous/difficult to immediately notice, logically the spell should be much more difficult to break out of. This on top of the fact that since it'd be implausible for the spell to truly be an AoE, practically all of the energy would be directed towards, Ixion, Morgan and the masked Sister as they are the ones who are in it. The blue haired sister would get some too and maybe a few of the fleeing inn customers would, but they'd also be even less likely to resist the spell given they shouldn't have much reason to at all.

Since the inngoers are a non-issue the spell would prioritize the people closest to I'on and would only give those at the perimeter of the "area," a brief wave of calm, after which the spell's energies would focus on the people in greater stress and who are also attempting to resist its effects.

Also, for future reference, I think I may just come directly to you and/or Shienvien when making spells. I'd rather avoid having this sort of discussion again (mostly because it causes people to have to edit when it could've just been done right the first time).

[Dark Jack]

I imagine that neither of them would be able to shake off the spell immediately, at least, since it does have such a relatively difficult-to-define effect. Realizing how one was manipulated through sheer self-analysis and the powers of observation would probably be a challenge, so I imagine that the most Ixion - who seems to rely a great deal on such - would be likely to accomplish was to act in spite of the magic rather than simply resist it, which would in effect mean that he would experience the consequential discomfort you described earlier when doing so. Morgan, though... he wouldn't be able to figure out how he was being affected simply by being affected, but ironically he would be able to tell through sensing the changes wrought by the spell in others near him, in this case Ixion. Once he had seen how Ixion's flow of energy had changed, he would probably be able to figure out that the spell was liable to have had the same effect on himself, and subsequently make an effort to resist it.

You might do that, though mostly I'll try to be as accommodating as possible, obviously. There just are some quirks to certain kinds of more complex magic, such as that which affects minds directly, that make them a bit less intuitive. You want to blow something up? No problem, there's loads of spells that do that. But if you have a spell with a very specific effect, or one that manipulates things in a very delicate manner, go ahead and ask if you're in doubt.

[Rhaevnn Xeno]

So, uh - how to proceed? Is the post ok or does something need to be changed, or?

[Dark Jack]

Eh... well, technically, if going by what was written in the post and yoshua's description of the spell as well as the general nature of mind-affecting magic, Morgan would not have been able to identify the effect of the magic on him, and as such the statement "with the magic now gone" would be false, which would consequently induce the discomfort yoshua described when acting despite of it.
Basically, submitting to part survival instinct and part vengeful anger is not the way to cancel the spell, only to defy it... if that makes sense. It wouldn't allow him to break the magic affecting him, but it would give him the determination to push through.

[Shienvien]

@yoshua171: Sure, feel free to consult me when you're not certain whether something or another would work, be it magic or something else - I suppose I'm perhaps around a bit more consistently*, and also during your daytime. My word obviously doesn't have the same weight as Jack's when it comes to the specifics or the world of the Prophecy more narrowly, but I've been around for a long time and if he's ever actually written the information down where I could see it, I can most probably recall it. If it was literally over five years ago, it may be a bit outdated, and if I don't know enough to as much as infer anything, we'd be waiting for him anyway, but that's that... In a sense, I'm pretty much like a sapient browser cache.

*Somewhat ironically, I am even more omnipresent when I'm working, as this effectively prevents me from leaving all computers alone for extended periods of time or immersing myself in something enough to neglect to patrol the places I frequent as I otherwise am wont to do. Granted, I tend to at least check up on most places on my cellphone when I am away from laptop-friendly places, but unless it's something that requires my immediate attention or can be answered in a sentence or two (which, knowing my general verbosity in text, isn't all that common occurrence), I am not too likely to respond in text from a touch-input device. Pocket-screens are good for reading things without getting out of bed and quickly checking something on the go, but not literary works.
Speaking of which, I'll probably never fully understand the phenomenon that is the popularity of tablet computers (their general cheapness left aside). Can't fit one in your pocket, which negates half the portability of cellphones, and they're still touch-input devices with all the flaws that has. (As a sidenote, I kind of wish they hadn't gone from pressure-sensitive screens to touch-sensitive screens ... especially in cold weather, where you might want to wear gloves, or in cases when you hands aren't all that conductive in general.) Could attach a more reasonable input device peripherally, but then you're left with a screen without a stand and/or not enough hands to hold everything and control things at the same time (whereas I'm reasonally capable of holding a laptop on my right arm and typing with my left while standing, never mind using a laptop as the name designates).
On a more random note, I don't think we're going to have thought to text any time soon. And *not* because the technology won't be here (hey, we kind of can get vague images out of people who envision things hard enough already). More simply because human brains don't tend to work as such technology requires - conscious thoughts very rarely are one continuous, coherent stream of words. Brains get distracted, context-switch, get even more distracted, context-switch again, backtrack, think better of something that was already put down, context switch again... We'd probably have to raise a generation of people who exist in constant state of deep meditation while also handling all daily tasks of life before thought-to-text will be easier to the average person than just typing. That, or we'd minimally need a competent enough AI for it to be capable of figuring out what would or wouldn't make sense ... and one or the other of previous conditions filled, there is still the issue of literally reading minds being now possible. Just imagine the possible social ramifications of that...

Hmm... Reading through the OoC posts, it seems rather strange that the effect of such kind of mind-control spell would be hard to determine on oneself. If you already know there has been *some* kind of mind-affecting magic at play, then it should, conversely, be exceedingly easy as long - or about as easy as answering questions like "How do I feel/what do I perceive?" and "Do those things make sense?" I'd say the spell would minimally either have to be sophisticated enough to also cancel out the person's awareness and knowledge of self or, alternatively, it would have to be not a generic mind-affecting effect, but more specifically thought-control.
Speaking of mind-control effects in general, I perhaps should send a PM later to discuss why the ailment/blessing from the Illusionist-confrontation occasion...

Re: Words and folklore things
Yeah... Danish and English are probably much more similar than Estonian and English - immediate self-correction: there is nothing "probably" about it, as English and Danish are factually far more closely related than Estonian is to either, my own observations left aside -, and as such it may be a bit harder to tell what has been recently "borrowed" and what has been there for a long time (as I noted being rather obvious with "devil" having a proper Estonian word for it and "demon" being a very glaringly un-Estonian borrowed word). - I personally do not like lending words into Estonain from English in general, and actively avoid lendwords whenever possible... The words simply do not fit, and more often than not are fairly unpleasant to listen to ... kind of as if the person is actually using random English words in their speech, and doing so with an absolutely atrocious accent. It .. just doesn't sound good. At all.
I also assume at least part of why there aren't proper words for creatures like leprechauns is them not being an inherent part of the your culture, some variations on what a creature or another is was originally up to regional differences (also why I occasionally distinguish between Middle-, Southern-, Northern- et cetera Estonian folklore), or - perhaps as a derivative of the latter - the Danish "troll" was not so much English "troll" as it was more simply some variation of - or at least closer in meaning to - "monster". If you try to assign the English word monster to any specific kind of being then you run into approximately the same "issue". (For some reason, I tend to associate "trolls" with Norway first and foremost, though as far as I'm aware they're prevalent throughout Scandinavian folklore - minus Finnish, but they're not really Scandinavian in other ways but by placement ... they do have evil witches, though, much more so than Estonians did, and northern Finland is more the Samic culture.)
"Little devil" sounds almost adorable, somehow ... also somehow feels like you have the definitions of "devil" and "demon" in reverse, as much as I've always seen imps defined as "minor demonic creatures" or just "minor demons" and often used interchangeably in stories. It's also interesting that you'd mention the LoTR series, as some creature labels and even people's names (such as Bilbo being "Baggins" in one book and "Paunaste" in another) have gone back and forth quite a bit. I personally prefer the "properly" Estonian variant ... mostly because otherwise either the words look weird and randomly untranslated or worse, they just happen to be Estonian words, but not those Estonian words. Nothing detracts from the epicness of a tale like the main bad guys being a particularly angry set of toothpicks**...

**"Ork" is pretty much a sharpened stick. "Hambaork" is a toothpick. And "carnivorous squirrel" is "lihasööja orav". I knew there was something important I was forgetting...

[Dark Jack]

Eh, do we have one of those situations right now where everyone is waiting for someone else, or...? (I know I'm next in the Kaedan-scene, I'll get to it, but I'm just concerned that nothing is happening in the other branches of the story.)

Danish and English are similar in a lot of ways, yeah, mainly because they share the same roots... something I became particularly aware of when I tried to educate myself some in the ways of archaic English, in which I realized that the roots of many modern English words actually lie in the old Norse languages. We borrow words from English, of course, but it's interesting to realize that it's not just English that is shaping our language, but our language that shaped English originally.
We do have a word for the broader term "monster", though... actually we have several different words, one of which is actually "monster" (spelled the same but with Danish pronunciation, which isn't even that different from the English one; we just tend to accent it a bit differently). Troll is more like... a category of creature. A species, with many different and wildly varying races.
Ugh, and don't even get me started on trying to translate names... They did it with LoTR and Harry Potter, and it was equally horrendous to see some of the names that resulted from the attempt. I've personally been very annoyed with LoTR sword, Sting, in that respect, because some translator decided that its name in Danish should be "Stik" (which is the imperative form of the verb "sting", or the word used to describe the area that has been stung (a mosquito bite is, while we're at it, a "myggestik" - a "mosquito sting" (despite the fact that mosquitoes are not even in possession of a sting in the first place))) instead of what I thought was a much more logical name, "Brod" (the anatomical feature called sting, used to perform the aforementioned action). Doesn't make sense. Eh...

"Ork" in Danish would be the imperative form of... eh... (checks dictionary) Huh, there is no English equivalent. It basically means "to have the strength or energy" for some task or another. We usually use it to denote that we won't do something because it would be too much of a bother. Toothpick would (for the sake of mentioning it) be "tandstikker", literally tooth-poker... or tooth stabber? Actually the latter is more literal than the former. Huh. Carnivorous squirrel would be "kødædende egern" (flesh/meat-eating squirrel), though that particular word is actually a common cause for confusion to Danes figuring out English, since squirrel is "egern", but chipmunk is "jordegern" - literally "earth squirrel" - so to us the two are relatively easily to confuse with one another.
And calling translating the term "carnivorous squirrel" an important thing is probably a rather immense overstatement... but I suppose it is still nice to know.

[yoshua171]

Well I mean. Once we have edits in Merc and Rhae's posts (provided Merc needs to edit. I don't know. If he is acting despite the spell, that's fine) I think the three of us would be fine and it'd be your turn, Jack.

[Mercinus3]

Well I mean. Once we have edits in Merc and Rhae's posts (provided Merc needs to edit. I don't know. If he is acting despite the spell, that's fine) I think the three of us would be fine and it'd be your turn, Jack.

@yoshua171

I've already edited the post so it's more like he's acting despite the spell.

M3

[Dark Jack]

Huh, so you did consider it my turn... I thought Merc would want to react to Morgan throwing him around and stuff first. But all right, I'll look into it when I have the time, then.

Also, a thing I forgot in my previous post:

Speaking of mind-control effects in general, I perhaps should send a PM later to discuss why the ailment/blessing from the Illusionist-confrontation occasion...

Shienvien

I would actually like to be reminded about the nature of the Illusionist in general. I think I remember most of it, but the PM I used to consult whenever I wanted to check something about the Illusionist was lost with the old Guild, so... yeah, all I have to go by is my memory, which I don't have any faith in whatsoever.