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@Witch Cat well it's not just a cat it'd probably be a cat that then grows to the size of a bear and would easily kill a man. These are demons not pets. They even have language its just only demonologists can understand them. And the familiar thing only applies to demonology.

As for minor spells or cantrips yeah you can snap your fingers to make little spells happen, but that's little stuff compared to your skills. Markiel could easily do some rather impressive offensive magic without a wand, but he's from a long line of warlocks, trained since he could speak, etc. Anything at your average or above will need the implement. Thanks to the spatial part of infernal magic familiars can appear by their master's sides whenever needed so it really isn't any trouble.
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@jasonwolf i just want to know if i made it in or not? thanks for your consideration
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@AdobeFlashI'm jsut gonna hold off on letting anyone in for a bit now. I don't want to pick everyone before people have a chance to get their sheets up.
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@jasonwolf makes sense
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Ah and here i was making a demonologist! Back to the drawing board.
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I mean unless jasonwolf is completely opposed to me rebuilding my character, I might switch away from Demonology to a shifter. I'm honestly kinda unhappy with how I wrote him up (he's kinda a mess if you hadn't noticed), and Poly did a much better job of filling the niche I was trying to go for. As it stands, demonology seems to be pretty damn popular, and I'm not terribly attached to the character as is.
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I made a thing! I'm proud of this thing. Tell me if I need to tweak my thing. Also, I'm not a demonologist, so that's something!
(Also I may occasionally re-read it and tweak the wording or grammar a bit, but I'll never change the story or idea for my character. Not without notifying you of course)



So, is it acceptable, @jasonwolf?
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@R31GN that's up to you dude. I swore hunter wouls be like everyone's subclass. Who doesn't like monster hunting in paranormal stuff? More power to jaklo I guess.
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@R31GN that's up to you dude. I swore hunter wouls be like everyone's subclass. Who doesn't like monster hunting in paranormal stuff? More power to jaklo I guess.
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Major edits made to school of study, spell specialization, and spells/abilities. Minor edits made in just about every other section.
Let me know if I missed any demonic shit while editing, will you?
EDIT: Updated equipment section
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@Witch Cat ok well... uhm... theres some problems and one thing that needs serious expansion. Im going in top to bottom order.

Homo-magi if you want to make up a race (or you're referencing something ive not heard of) you really have to explain it more. I would not approve of just slughtly magical humans as that's terribly boring and humans can already do magic just fine.

If you are referinf to Hunters as beastiologists then this crusade is highly flawed as hunters are magic themselves. They just internaluze their magic into a couple traits and slight enhancemwnts to their being. Also all of their gear is magic.

Im fine with a group that hates your group, but this hunters want to eradicate all casters wouldn't work out. They would have been decimated centuries ago likely by other hunters who would see them as rogue. A small group with a small target can slip under radars and avoid the attention of the world community. In a sense these hunters would be fighting the entire rest of the magical world, limit their scope and they'd have less enemies.

Raw magic (your eldritch energy) is demonology exclusive. Raw magic is dangerous, but with the familiar you get enougj control to use it directly. As well eldritch is definitely a demonology term.

Teleportation is also demonology only. Its spatial magic (thats what blink is in the descriptions of the schools.)

Finally thats a pet not a familiar. Familiars are only demons in a pact with a demonologist. It's not a combat creature ao it's fine to stay just the wrong term here.

Now the story the charactet the concepts are good. These details just go against what I know I covered.

Usingy phone btw so sorry for any errors.
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@Witch Cat i also noticed health manipulation and divination which are demonology and morphology respectively. I think you may just want to run a jack of all trades master of none.

Edit: noticed it last night but the site was being nuts
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@jasonwolf Let me know when you get a chance to look at the new Baron
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@R31GNonly gotten glances as i started my summer semester today. I like the system for the spells with the forms being minor but not mutually exclusive so you get combos from that.
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@jasonwolf
Oh, well I assumed Arcanologists would be able to utilize raw energy however they wished because of this quote;

"Brief combinations of words and actions give them control over the arcana to do with as they please...To cast spells without mana would cause great harm to a person possibly even death."

And the "possibly even death" gave me the idea for health manipulation. And I fail to see how using a crystal ball is morphology, as it doesn't involve, well, morphing. But I'll still make a few tweaks, I'll either remove those problematic powers, or keep them. I do think of Witches as Jack-Of-All trade type of magic-users. What do you suggest?

Also something about the topic of familiars. I thought of familiars as pets that help focus power through your emotional connection with them. But in this RP, familiars are demons you made pacts with, which is Demonology. In the first post you word it as if all casters need a familiar, but in future posts, you talk about them solely in the terms of demonology. So, what is it?
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@jasonwolf
Oh, well I assumed Arcanologists would be able to utilize raw energy however they wished because of this quote;

"Brief combinations of words and actions give them control over the arcana to do with as they please...To cast spells without mana would cause great harm to a person possibly even death."

And the "possibly even death" gave me the idea for health manipulation. And I fail to see how using a crystal ball is morphology, as it doesn't involve, well, morphing. But I'll still make a few tweaks, I'll either remove those problematic powers, or keep them. I do think of Witches as Jack-Of-All trade type of magic-users. What do you suggest?

Also something about the topic of familiars. I thought of familiars as pets that help focus power through your emotional connection with them. But in this RP, familiars are demons you made pacts with, which is Demonology. In the first post you word it as if all casters need a familiar, but in future posts, you talk about them solely in the terms of demonology. So, what is it?

As far as familiars go, I believe that's just poor formatting. Demonology is the last subject on the list, and the familiar section is tacked onto the end of it. As I understand it, familiars are exclusive to Demonology, it just appears separate because RPG is wonky
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@Witch Cat The divination and health manipulation was backwards. Divination is demonology (as the demons have such esoteric knowledge) and health manipulation is morphology where instead of casting it on yourself you change other people to a healthy state.

Now while I admit it is vague, but the line before is "With knowledge of the raw arcana and mana that permeates reality they can affect the world in precise ways" This was intended as their magic has to affect the world they refine it into spells with various abilities rather than just blasts of energy.. The more important point is that it is SPECIFICALLY stated as a demonology skill "raw magical control (blasts of raw arcana and other ways to weaponize it)". Now I'll admit it was vague and I'm sorry about that but it was still defined. The classes are meant to be largely mutually exclusive. The Ritualologist is the one with the most cross over as they have access to the same magics (except demonology), but use rituals and tons of ingredients instead of tons of mana.

As for the jack of all trades thing I'd suggest you put down everything but hunter. Witches brew potions (alchemy), cast spells (arcanology), do a bit of demon speaking (demonology), would probabaly use rituals for some spells (ritualology), and if you want healing then you need morphology. Since you are so spread out having demonology really isn't an issue since you're only 1/5th a demonologist. This way you get a little of each and lots of variety.

EDIT: If anything my best guess is that you are thinking of familiar as a generic when in this universe is is specific. Familiars are only demons/infernal beings from the infernal plane (hell) used to channel the ether. They are not just magic pets.

Familiars are only ever refereed to under demonology. I don't see them any other place. it says the a familiar is require to channel "ether and mana" ether is only for demonology magics.

Also I totally will agree my formatting sucks. It's just not my strong area. I'm way more of a concept man.
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@jasonwolf
Thanks for clearing it all up! I'll just put on the other schools of magic, little tweaks here and there. Probably shouldn't have used my first draft as a CS (but I just thought it'd be a good idea to remind y'all I'm still alive and in this). But hey, got stuff cleared up so that's good. I'll do the necessary adjustments later in the day when I have some free time.
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@Witch CatWait a person who can take a critical analysis and not call me a collection of rude words because they don't agree!? What happened to the internet while I was getting food?
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