[OOC] Set Me Free {Love Dove&Sunflower}

[Love Dove]

Okay let me just get this sorted.

Starter Plot Outline

Many years ago the human kingdoms despite all odds won the war against the werewolves. Once the humans were the slaves of the werewolf’s kingdom, the tables had turned. The human kingdoms not only destroyed the kingdoms of the werewolves, they took prisoners. The human’s alchemist not only made a potion to force the werewolves to shift and change at the King’s will, but to control their wolf form enough so they cannot attack the King/Queen who rule them. During the war a human kingdom unwittingly captured the alpha of the werewolf kingdom instead of killing it. For years this werewolf has been unable find its way to freedom, with no luck. At is until the young prince/princess comes to close to the werewolf (either during an attempt to break free or coming to close to the bars of its cage). The werewolf being alpha is able to fool the young royal into letting them go (or make them submit). And soon the tables turn once again. Of course the story doesn’t stop there, there is still the matter of the young royal, and the new feelings between the royal and werewolf to deal with as well.

I was going it quote the things we said but the hider won't work :/ What else do you think there is that we need to work out with the plot

[Sunflower]

Mmm...I'm not sure, I think we've got enough sorted out for now.

I do have just a few simple questions though, that might help us.

Are the King and Queen more like tyrants?

Was there any weaknesses to the werewolves or were you going to let me decide that?

And the setting? Was there anything planned for the setting or should we brain storm that before we move forward?

[Love Dove]

Hmm well I hadn't really thought of if the King and Queen were tyrants or not. Though I think it might be really interesting if they were tyrants, it might give them something else to use the Alpha for. What do you think?

I think I'll let you decide the weaknesses for the werewolves, since their your characters.

Well I had thought of it being a medieval setting though that's just a first thought. I'm more than open to brain storming.

[Sunflower]

I was leaning towards the idea that they are tyrants. They could have been former slaves, or the children of the slaves to the werewolves and their intentions started out good enough but then once they tasted power it was just total chaos from there.

Alright~

A medieval setting sounds fine to me :) Perhaps with the setting we could brain storm the cities, towns, forests, and everything or did you want it to be based on something that already exists?

[Love Dove]

That's a good point. They could be former slaves, though I figure the former ones would be pretty old, other than the ones who were children. This would likely be about twenty years after the slaves turned the tables and overpowered the werewolves. I like that idea, after all power corrupts, all of the rulers then were around around slave times or their parents were, could be tyrants for that matter. So they will be tyrants than, that will be fun to play :)

Yeah sounds like a plan to me, I didn't have something I wanted to base it off of. Well I figure the town and cities would depend on the kingdom in a way. So do you think it would be better for the kingdom to be big, rich, and powerful? Or would it be better for it to be new and kind of poor, where taking of the werewolves kingdom was their first real feat and they are starting to rise in power?

[Sunflower]

:) Okay.

Maybe they took the riches that came along with the werewolf kingdom so they are a new yet rich and powerful (seeing as they can kind of control the werewolves) kingdom. Maybe they don't have strong ties with the smaller villages and towns so most are unhappy in their kingdom with their rulers but wouldn't want the werewolves to gain the upper hand?

[Love Dove]

Sorry for rumbling last night I was half asleep :)

Sounds good. Then the kingdom is rich and powerful because of the werewolf kingdom they over took. So basically the smaller villages and towns outside the main kingdom are pretty much overlooked for the most part. However they won't fight their tyrant rulers because that could give the wolves the upper hand? That could hold some advantages. So did you have any ideas for the forests? Something tells me that as the werewolves, your characters will be in them more often than mine :)

[Sunflower]

I was thinking that the forests would be really, really big pine forests with many plants and animals. It'd be somewhere bountiful and relatively safe the further you get in but since the humans have ruled for the last 20 or so years, a lot of the forest has been cut down to make room for farm lands and for the logging industry. I'll likely plan as we go, and I'll ask for your input as well once I can think of a few more things.

For the werewolves I don't see them as the type to stay in one plance. They would follow the deer and elk herds through out the years so there won't really be any settlements aside from a few annual places that they'd stay for a week or two at.

[Love Dove]

Okay makes sense :)

So then the werewolves kingdoms wouldn't really be an actually place than? It would be more a long the lines of an area instead. That sounds good. What type of werewolves are you planing on using? Bi-pedal or actual wolves? I'm guessing that they can turn human seeing how they will need to talk and react to the humans.

[Sunflower]

That part I am having a bit of difficulty with - I like the idea of both bi-pedal or wolf 'forms' for the werewolves. I don't know how I want them to turn either willingly or not, with the moon or not, but keeping the alchemist's potion type stuff to regulate when they can and can't under go their transitions. Just there is a lot of stuff that I want to sort out about this and I'll likely do that over the next few days if I get the chance. I've got a few family things (good things) coming up tomorrow and the day after.

I like the idea that the werewolves would be more tribal than anything else and they would come together as a whole during special occasions and holidays. I really love anthropology and learning about people who still live in tribes today really interested me and I think it'd help our story. With a tribal type of setting there is a lot more room for diversity in the werewolf communities (like names and other simple traditions) as well as giving our tyrants a bit more leverage by managing to bring down more than one of the tribes within this area and forcing the others into hiding.

One thing I'd like to try is giving the werewolves a bit of traditions rather than what we think of with werewolves. The appeal of making them different from other things with werewolves really is just something I'd like to try at least once here.

[Love Dove]

Hmm well if you like both types why don't you do both? Have be wolf 'form' that can turn bi-pedal at will? Well with the shifting you could make it where they have shift willingly unless it a full moon? Just a thought. The wolves have some of potion that the humans use for controlling them? :) Very interesting idea. Oh, well I'm glad to hear that it good things with your family!

I love your idea of the werewolves being tribal. I hadn't thought of that. I'm really looking forward to hearing more about them and their traditions once you figure it out. It shall be fun to see how you make them different than we think of with werewolves. Well you be changing the things that are their weaknesses also?

By the way now that I think of it. I think it should be more than twenty years, maybe thirty? Because if it was that shortly ago. Either the princess would be to young. Or she would be old enough to remember everything and I don't think she would let the Alpha go.

[Sunflower]

That could work, the werewolves having two forms. Thirty years sounds fine. I am going to assume you wanted the werewolves to have long lifespans?

Later I'll flesh out the werewolf culture and I'll likely post it up for you to read :)

[Love Dove]

I had thought that the werewolves would have long lifespans. Though they don't have to, he could have just been the next it line when the Alpha died? It's really up to you :)

Awesome I can't wait to hear about them.

Let's see what else do we need to work out.....

[Sunflower]

Mmm...I think that I'll probably plan as we go. I'm still a bit unsure about the culture of the werewolves but I do know that their leader is elected rather than it being a birth right.

I like the idea of lifespans that are longer, that way my male can already have his foot in the door as Alpha/leader. They won't live to crazy ages, perhaps a hundred years or so?

[Love Dove]

Being elected rather than it being a birth right sounds interesting I imagine it would case a few dilemmas between a few of the tribe members and tribes.

Hundred years or so sound good, that way they aren't immortal but like you said he can have his foot in the door as Alpha. How old is your Alpha going to be?

[Sunflower]

Mmm...I'm not sure really.
So if we have the human uprising set thirty years before our plot, then he'd be about 50 or so perhaps? I'm thinking that around the age of 30 or 40 they become adults and are eligible for being elected but the humans interfered with this process and maybe he had been elected shortly before, when he was still quite young by their standards because the previous leader had been killed and no others fit the bill?

How old was your female going to be so I can kind of get an idea of how old he should be?

[Love Dove]

Well I don't want her to be old enough that she would have been a slave, because then she would really have to be an idiot to let him go. But she needs to be old enough that she at least knows some of the dangers, So I think I'm going to make her 20 that way there as been ten years since the upraise. Also she would be very close having to prove that she come take the throne.

With the humans I think that they royalty will be a birth right in a way but they also have to prove that they would be able to hold it.

[Sunflower]

Perfect, his age will work out after all.

Interesting, Maybe they have to show through the strength of their army or by being a bit ruthless?

[Love Dove]

Yeah they will have to show their strength through not only their army but hand to hand as well. After all it is only through fighting that they broke free, so the princess with have a few skills in fighting. Though it has to do with logic as well, are they smart enough to rule a kingdom? That might be something she is clearly going to be lacking in. Haha.

I plan on playing around and making the humans different than you would think as well.

[Sunflower]

:3 Alright.