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Worst case scenario, he's dead and the rp fails.
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If that happens, I'll prepare another FSN RP.

Hopefully the GM comes back though.
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Oh look, a Saver.

Anyhow, if Seibah/Ransah haven't checked in by now, given the time they've had to do so I'd figure people should be allowed to start working on their replacements if they OH DESIIIIIIIIIIIRE so desire, though we might wanna PM them to check first.

I won't get into the same argument as the others, but I will say:

Independent Action- A++ (Having survived on water along for 30 years, and "spiritual energy" for 10, he can naturally regenerate Prana at a rate equivalent to that of a connection to a strong Master. However, a Master gives a greater Prana reserve for use)

Discernment of the Poor- A+ (As the person who will ultimately banish lies, he can see through illusions and the lies of virtually any being)

Guardian Knight- A+ (Due to being the ultimate Savior of humanity, this allows him absolute defensive power when defending one who places their absolute faith in him)


IA A++ doesn't really make sense, seeing as gaining a corporeal body and literally becoming anchored to the world gives you A+. Also, IA isn't just prana regen, it's having an anchor to the world.

DotP probably doesn't need that modifier seeing as A rank sees through all deception anyway, but it's up to you.

Also Guardian Knight boosts END when protecting something, not defense, especially seeing as we don't really have an AC scale or anything.

Weapon(s): 120 A Rank Topaz Gems


If we say these are equivalent to Rin's jewels, that's 1,200,000,000 yen ($11,716,800). Then consider that Rin, saving up all her prana up to fifth Heaven's Feel, had 20, and you have six times that despite being a decade older. Maybe say some (a lot) were passed down the family or somesuch thing, inno.

Super Kai Men Bajiquan- A form of martial art heavily enhanced through use of Prana. Able to fight Dead Apostles.
Breathing and Walking- Refinement of strength and miraculous abilities through utilization of mana from the planet directly. Refinement of this ability has left him with the strength of a Dead Apostle and able to punch with the force of a sniper bullet.


Hero Kotomine, who has Super Kai Men Bajiquan, being aided by two command seals (so like over 3000 units of prana directed to power) is equal to a Dead Apostle in fighting. So...yeah...

Regardless, I'm not the GM so take that as you will, and welcome to the RP~
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I will also add that only one Servant can feasibly kill Saver due to his God Hand-lite, discounting Ruler just Command Sealing him to death.

And that Servant is True Assassin post cannibalizing several families. (and Gil, but that's pretty obvious)

Odysseus and Tamulu might be able to take him out, depending on if they can summon anything over B-Rank in damage. And even so, I'm sure A++ Strength is enough to take out anything they summon.

Killing the Master isn't an option due to that absurdly high IA, but it does reduce that END bonus from GK and actually makes it so the three guys up there can actually do something about Saver.

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Should've made Assassin Hercules.
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Eh, honestly I don't see a ton of issue with overpoweredness. Parameters honestly don't mean that much when all's said and done. I do think what I said able should be addressed, though.

It's just a standard OP character. There are exploits. A few Servants in this war could have a good fight with him.
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Well anyway, seeing as we haven't gotten any check-in from Lancer since declaring the check-in, here's my tentative app for said class. If they return, then I'll give this up and we'll be back to George.

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Well it isn't really a Parameter thing, it's more of a 'we can't touch him unless we meet the requirements' thing.

...Not that I'm saying he needs to change the skill, I'm just pointing out that our Grail War is incredibly underpowered in general.

Which is entertaining, because the traditionally underpowered of the usual 7 classes are actually the most powerful ones (or so it seems), assuming a roster change doesn't interfere.

EDIT: Well that's definitely a roster change.

EDIT2: OH MAN. I thought of a Master concept!
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Un~

Wanna master Lancer?
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Just for that, I'm not apping Temptress as Arc.

They'll be someone else this war.
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;w;

I'm sorry...
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What are the qualifications for Temptress anyway?
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...it's going to be Kaguya, isn't it?
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Being someone who sucks money and energy from Men.
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Heads up, I'm taking a page from Zero and giving our Lancer 2 Masters.

EDIT: Aaand if anyone wants to be the Einzbern Grail vessel so I don't have to make 'er, feel free to do so.
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Also, that master is simply too strong. It's like you literally just looked at every Master in the thread and did your best to be better than them.
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Also, that master is simply too strong. It's like you literally just looked at every Master in the thread and did your best to be better than them.


Stop describing my Rin

Actually, it's Rin, I don't have to feel bad about that, she's in canon top 100 Magi ever in association history, and the one I'm making actually has good training as opposed to canon one with sucky Kirei.

Watch her die first night.
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Actually, it's Rin, I don't have to feel bad about that, she's in canon top 100 Magi ever in association history, and the one I'm making actually has good training as opposed to canon one with sucky Kirei.


I'm talking about Saver's Master. The one who's randomly a magus on the level of Rin, but also a martial artist who can fight DA's.
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I'm talking about Saver's Master. The one who's randomly a magus on the level of Rin, but also a martial artist who can fight DA's.


Oh, yea, I agree, 100 Jewels is expensive, and they just don't have even a quarter of the time to fill those. Maybe if they had a ley line or something.

If you want limitless jewels, app a good jewel user with second owner status(All the prana needed to put in the jewels because you can eat people, and the money to buy the jewels). Like Luvia, for example. Except don't, because then I'd have to try and beat you up with muh Rin.
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The magus life requires too much devotion and energy for them to have mastered martial arts, spent their entire life in faith and also become a magus on the level of a strong-blooded genius...
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Hmmmm did they mean equal to Rin in skill, or pragmatically being able to match her in combat. Coz Old!Kirei can wreck her 80% of the time despite being shitty, just because he killed magi really well back in the day.

But she dun have that history.
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