ArenaSnow

Mahz's Dev Journal

Why not just have a community-wide vote?

@BingTheWing

The logistics of that would need to be planned out well, and again require the aforementioned trust for the purpose not to be defeated. You may also run into the niche groups issue, where people will simply stick by their friends - and good friends aren't necessarily good moderators. People who are good at "things", possibly even GMing, may not necessarily be good at making an efficient group that doesn't hinder, but support the staff.

Such an idea would be viable if you made a clear explanation of how it would work.

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Because people are easily manipulated and typically not invested enough to put in the work to make wise decisions.
^This isn't just me throwing shade—knowing that is part of my IRL job. A lot of organizations are hurt by that fact.

@Etcetera

Also, this ^

Mahz's Dev Journal

Thought not a technical forum suggestion for improvement of the overall form and performance of the forum I am here by suggesting that a third party council be implemented on the forum for Ban/Staff Review. A collection of long good standing forum members that are not members of the staff and as unbiased as possible to review complaints of bans, member, and staff when needed.

After having read through several issues, old and new, here on the forum I feel it is impertinent that such a council be put into place so there is a proper set of checks and balances for all on the forum to help give the members better peace of mind and staff people they are held accountable to.

Lady A~

@Lady Amalthea

This just doesn't sound viable to me.

Firstly, to whom does this special council answer? Where is the complete circle of checks and balances?

Who determines what people go onto the council? Is it popular vote that can be manipulated by personal opinion? Is it the staff invalidating the point? Would it be Mahz himself when you have people questioning him, and who'll simply discredit the team as being specially hand-picked?

How does it work? To me, it seems to add a level of bureaucracy that would be avoided by the alternative suggestion of s taff being more transparent in their procedures in the first place. Bureaucracy isn't good, not from my experience. It simply adds a level of complication, and if you can't trust the staff to be neutral, you can't trust a crew of players to somehow have better judgement - especially when current staff have a foothold in the ranks of established players.

Checks and balances are all well and good, but they need a very, very well established plan to be put in place to ensure they actually work. The United States didn't just wake up one day and go "congress is being a bitch, lets put in a supreme court" - the system has to be implemented early, and if it isn't, it's either going to fail - or it's going to need trust on all parties to implement. Based on the reasoning for suggesting such a measure, that trust wouldn't even exist for those who want it most.

In Defense Of The Genre [Part II]

After reading through this, and other issues that have come over the years, I have placed a suggestion in Mahz's Dev Journal to implement a 3rd party Peer Review Council for Bans/Staff. I believe it would give members of the forum better peace of mind and the staff someone to be held officially accountable to.

@Lady Amalthea

To whom would this council answer?

Edit: Taking discussion of this idea to the thread it was submitted.

Peer-to-peer grammar critique. (Grammar nazi hangout spot)

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Well then in that case you have my thanks. I'm greatly flattered by such a glowing appraisal of my work.

@TwelveOf8

I might just be easily pleased :p but no particular issue stood out to me on a cursory check. So that's a good sign... now, wait for the people less inclined to agree <.<

Peer-to-peer grammar critique. (Grammar nazi hangout spot)

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I would be greatly interested in the specific examples you could cite of this "comma issue" amidst my work if you don't mind. Not that I disbelieve your statement, mind you. It's just that since this a relatively technical topic, citations are needed.

@TwelveOf8

It was an unclear way of me saying I had the same impression of your writing as you had with mine, except for the fact I didn't spot comma issues.

I'm sure it could be there, just haven't spotted it.

Peer-to-peer grammar critique. (Grammar nazi hangout spot)

@ArenaSnow Very good writing. It was quite descriptive and atmospheric. In my uneducated opinion, there isn't really any grammatical errors that are very noticeable. However, maybe ease up on the Oxford commas a little? Perhaps use more sentences? I also grapple with such a prospect.

@TwelveOf8

Comma structure is probably the single worst thing on my writing. Typically, reducing them requires me to restructure sentences in such a way I no longer feel they have a place. I think in a trail of thoughts, which creates sentences like this. At best, this is as far as it goes - at worst, my comment on this being a trail of thoughts would include these two sentences comma'ed together.

So yet again, a reminder to knock off the damn commas. I'll make myself feel better and say hey, at least I use them...

I could say pretty much the same on you, based on a short glance to your post history as of late. The only difference would be your comma issue, if present, is not as noticeable to me :p

If you can tell, I'm huge on two-part sentences.

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The spawn of all within my insane dimension.

A Pirate rp.

Throwing out a maybe. Few very rough ideas for a hardline navy officer or a much more carefree pirate fellow. But I'll watch and see what goes.

BRING BACK CHAT

chrome @ArenaSnow

@Drazah

Chrome should be able to handle it. Is it fully updated, and do you have any other viable browsers to check with?

Making an introduction.

Welcome :)