ClocktowerEchos

American Dream: A Shattered Union

MORAL QUANDARIES!

Thank you for showing why someone might turn raider. HELL YES. This is excellent. I will have fun with this.

@Shorticus

Seems like I haven't failed quite yet then :p

Polaris | Machinations of a Solar Colony

You... you motherfucker...

y u put something so interesting up nao?

I haz little time but I wantz in ;-;

American Dream: A Shattered Union

Shit post is shit but I find my RPing ability and writing ability to be hitting a wall atm. Blegh >_>

American Dream: A Shattered Union

Neo-Con Lands

The Patriot

"So here we are," the Patriot looked into the heartlands of the Neo-Con, "The homeland of former rebels and enslavers. I cannot say much has changed."
"Yiss..." Kobar hissed, looking on edge, the rumors of what happened to Evols in these cursed lands had reached far and wide, "Ss-ssshall we move on with the plansss?"

With a simple nod, the Patriot turned his back as the wind began to pick up and how faced an array of catapults, each one of them loaded with boxes full of posters which would open in the wind and spread across the hills and swamps. Raising his arm, the crews quickly loaded the machines with zeal, firing them all at once in order. One by one, boxes sailed into the air as the sky burst them open and spread them across the land. Once more the hand went up and crew reloaded their engines and fired again, then again, then again for one last time.

The Patriot looked into the horizon at his work, the posters were full of messages denouncing the Neo-Con, their policies and what he thought was their hypocrisy. Turning around on his heels, he began walking back, "Come my friends, the slavers will be here soon if we do not make haste. There is still work to be done. The badlands tribes need our assistance."

"Sssshould I preepare the "ssspeccialls?" the Evol hissed.

"Yes... They shall be most instrumental in our little siege..."

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The Huachuca Tribes

League of the First People Territory - Arizona Frontier

The night had fallen on the great unending desert planes of Zoria as the Huachuca called it, a place located in what was once Arizona. Campfires and smoke rose to illuminate the starry skies as the unending beating of metal drums echoed in the landscape. Many a men had camped out here for their raids on the lands of the League of the First People, palisades and barricades walled off much of their new settlement from the outside; a network of shallow trenches cut into the ground beyond that with towers and firing positions to assist.

The amount of men here was numerous, hundreds most likely, maybe even thousands. But outside of the warriors and champions was their families and children, the reason they had taken such a journey to raid the League. There own lands were dying, not that it was really ever able to sustain them to begin with, but now the dirt had simply become sand and stone with no chance of coming back. They had to move or they would die.

This newest base was only the first in a chain of havens for the Huachua, all still lead by their General with a Major acting as tribe head. Some would say that this would have disgraced their old world roots in the pre-war American military, but this move had been purely pragmatic. Raiding was once supplementary to their activities, but now it had to be their main stay; farming had failed them and now it would be lucky if their herds could find something to munch on. It was like another apocalypse for them, as if the first one wasn't enough.

Now, their warbands and raiders were once again turned back, bruised and battered. It was at times like this which the War Council had to gather in the most unfavorable of atmospheres. The air around them was black and gloomy, news had it that the League was using armored vehicles, something they had to leave behind at their old home. Twas truly dark times, dark enough for words of using the legendary metal monsters. The debate flamed on for hours into the night with no end in sight until dawn, but no matter the debate on the rising of the old world beasts, the next day was going to be their attack once more in force. This was no longer a war for resources or glory, it was a fight for the survival of their people, a last stand against the darkness which would descend upon them had they failed.

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True, but there is fishing. Plus, we would still need bodies of fresh water. Perhaps have a few of those, but this ocean would contain the only salt water. Perhaps we could have a small colony that adapts and is able to drink salt water that lives near there?

@SpookySquid

Different evolutionary timeline. Different plants to eat and avoid, different animals with different behaviors to hunt or run away from. It's the greatest sandbox ever!

@AccursedBiscuit

And this is precisely my issue with this direction, we can claim that because of different evolutionary timelines means that our bog standard human can do anything and the world can literally be crafted for them. Drink salt water? Ok! Survive in freezing cold temperatures? Still fine! Can go months without eating? Evolution baby! How about animals that are naturally plump and juicy and fat for us to eat? Why the hell not!

There is no sense of urgency in situations like this, things should be based on how it works by science and not what we want. If that was the case, I could claim that a much of space elves have established a colony here on this planet and decided to purge every living thing because it is the "greatest sandbox ever!"

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I was just thinking big picture, trying to get a sense of where we want to take this. Of course cause and effect is a large part of how these things come about. Besides, there's nothing saying we can't go off the books a little.

@AccursedBiscuit

The thing is, with history you have to go by the books in a way. History is the greatest chain of cause-and-effect to ever have existed. The rise of Hitler can be tied to Franco-Prussian relations in the 1800's. The rise of communism can be linked to the invention of the steam engine. Modern Europe has its roots in the fall of the Roman empire.

I was under the impression that this was supposed to be soemthing of a serious and realistic approach to writing out a history.

I like that. Maybe they noticed a lot of edible food growing on a coastal plain, and the waters were practically jumping with fish. They couldn't help but stay. They knew this was home.

@AccursedBiscuit

Small note: most edible crops grow further inland naturally. You wouldn't see wheat growing naturally all that close to an ocean, on a lake, maybe.

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Humanity began to fight when they began to feel a sense of ownership over something worth defending. With tribes, this could be as simple as their hunting/gathering territory, their resources. While there wouldn't be an organized military, in a modern sense, there would be fighting and conflicts.

@Shayd

If we're talking early, early human history, no there was not. There was barely any organization, all "armies" were basically levied warrior war bands, not soldiers. The difference between a soldier and a warrior is that soldiers can still function with mediocre leadership while warriors cannot. All forms of warfare was either raiding parties or raid defenses, collected in a short time for that particular act of aggression or defense, they are literally just levy militia. Standing armies would not be and professional soldiers would not be for a long time coming.

When talking about this in the context of this RP which we're starting off as HG nomads who settled on the coast, there would be no territory disputes. They would be too concerned about their daily grind of survival to worry about their power compared to neighboring lands. Also, HGs don't have "territory", they are basically nomads and nomads by definition have no set boundaries.

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Good point. Any volunteers?

Humans are good. So, our group of merry men finds themselves where? Coastal tribe? Inland tribe, maybe focused on woodworking or working the land. Depends on what kind of advantages we want them to have. Bountiful food resources, or maybe mining metal for infrastructure and military (if we have one). I suppose we could give them everything they could want. Pretty much start out with a golden age of advancement, get things going.

@AccursedBiscuit

First off, I recommend everyone go read up on some ancient world history. Things happened for a reason and Rome didn't just become and empire a la Deus Vult, they had several things go their way because of thier location, enviroment, etc etc.

If we are going to be starting at the very beginning of civilization, they are going to be basically nomadic herders or hunter gathers but I guess it can be said that they are a group of nomads who've just decided to settle down. In which case they would be also certainly coastal or river as they could either have plentiful fish or good soil to farm on.

If I'm going to be quite honest, it seems are you thinking this as less history and more of a scrubbed version of history often presented by games. Early on, the concept of military was something beyond thought and infrastructure was limited to hovels of varying sizes and dirt roads. In short, history is a lot more complex than what you might think.

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I'm hesitant about magic, it could easily fuck things up real easily not to mention all the other stuff that could entail.

I think we should just go normal route with standard humans for now and have a sort of civilization we all "focus" on. Most of the actions we write about will relate to the civilization or its neighbors for the time being.

We may also need someone to help keep track and archive all of this stuff.

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I just say that we get a map and focus on one area until we decide other areas need some love to when they start interacting with other areas.

That said, how fair back are we starting exactly? Mesopotamia age or something?

@ClocktowerEchos

I think the general consensus so far is we start with sapient life, filling in background as needed.

@ClocktowerEchos

I know that, I'm wondering how far should life had already advanced thus far and what kind of sapient life are we talking about? Bog standard humans?

Also, check you BBCcoding, you derped it up.