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Vortex said
Lol yeah sorry, I didn't mean that YOU said that, I mean that yes I agree with you that people would not want to go to the communist system because the have been taught to fight against it.

You would have to completely overturn an entire government, which typically only happens if the current government has made life so miserable for the average person that they feel the only option they have is to rise up and rebel, often at the risk of their own life. Say what you will, but the quality of life in most Western nations is the best anyone's ever had it. It's not perfect, but not worth taking a wild gamble over that historically has lead to ruin, which was the point I'm trying to illustrate.

Also, despite your insinuation that children are indoctrinated to hate communism (or reject or embrace a number of other things), people aren't inherently stupid. They can make decisions for themselves when they mature enough and start learning about the world on their own. You obviously came to your admiration of communism on your own instead of being taught to love its virtues from your parents (I could be wrong, but I assume this is the case), other people are the exact same way on a number of different issues.

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Jannah said
Well at least you're consistent. Way too many people condemn Marxism while giving capitalism a free pass for all the atrocities it's responsible for on the basis it's "just business". It's because of shit like that I fully admit to having very little trust of anybody who is wealthy. It's just natural since they have screwed me over personally too many times. Also, as much as I like aspects of Sweden's system it does still rely on exploitation of the Third World and that is not something I can agree with.

Although like most people I may subconsciously have bias towards one thing or another, I do try to keep an open mind about both sides of an issue. Personally, the sentiment of "it's just business" rather disgusts me and I don't think profit should ever trump civil, personal, environmental, or other ethical concerns. I have no problems with businesses being successful, but I do think there needs to be controls in place to monitor that they are keeping to ethical practices and meeting environmental criteria. I understand that in a lot of cases, it's not perfect and you can't do much to avoid a certain process from being a harmful pollutant, but you can take steps to limit it and create incentives towards a transition to less harmful practices.

I can fully respect your personal situation, and I know I got very fucking lucky with the circumstances of my life. You hear all the time about how costly it is to be poor and how hard it is to actually break free of poverty. I think a lot of people don't realize that people aren't there by choice and are certainly trying to break out of that cycle. For instance, if you live in a city, housing is usually very expensive, and what little pay you make often goes to rent. If you live in the suburbs or the country, your options for transportation are limited. If you can afford a car, you have to pay way more money to upkeep the damn thing if you bought it cheaply used because it is going to fail, and so on. Back before I got my current job, I worked at a shitty, bottom barrel retail job and was trying to live in apartment with two room mates, where we split the rent three ways. I eventually had to move back home because I couldn't afford to live like that. I had to pay probably 400-800 dollars a year fixing something on my car, having health problems caused me to have quite a few sick days which you don't get paid for, and a bunch of other factors made it literally impossible to save money to afford better living conditions. It was a struggle just to break even every month, and I was glad I was able to move back with my parents, because I was able to get my life back on track there. A lot of people don't have that option, so what do they do?

The world isn't a perfect place, so instead of trying to change everything at once, it's a lot easier to focus on the things that can be fixed first.

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Vortex said
And yes I have to agree with you most people have been taught to fight against communism from a early age.

I never said that.

Aight so, correct me if I'm wrong, but

K-97 said
Funny thing, when I was you a similar thing occurred to my little toe. I was lucky to keep it.

How are you still alive?

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Jannah said
But we can't overlook the fact that capitalism continues to kill people every day. It's not a one-way street. We can't pretend like Marxism is some evil demon here.

And I'm not advocating the capitalism is the answer, either. Personally, I quite admire the concept of democratic socialism, and I think that currently, the Nordic countries like Norway, Denmark, and Sweden figured out what's arguably the best system, considering how they consistently rank at the top of the happiest citizens with the best quality of life.

Case in point as a mark against capitalism, for a quick example; Iran's current shitty, anti-Western Islamic government was installed by the US and Britain because the moderate, actually sensible one didn't want to open up its oil reserves to exploitation, so the US and Britain more or less toppled that government and installed one that was much more willing to play ball and sell.

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I am well aware. But as they say, the path to hell is paved with good intentions. Do you think any of the revolutionaries expected to end up in a dictatorship? No. But that's what happens when you throw a select few people in absolute power. The whole Marxism thing has been tried before and inevitably ended up in a totalitarian hell, regardless of what inspired it.

As Winston Churchill said, "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others."

The only people who are predisposed to Marxism are either desperate, poor, or don't know any better, as it's historically been a disaster every time. I can guarantee most in the developed world, very few would be willing to pay the cost to attempt to transition to that kind of government.

Regardless, there's several million lost souls who would argue semantics over what you'd call the government that killed them.

Also, about the no money thing; how do you propose to create incentives for people actually working hard, or going into highly educated or demanding fields when theoretically a guy digging ditches would be entitled to the same incentives as a doctor, or the chief of defense staff? In the USSR, in particular, workplace productivity was very hit and miss, as people realized that being recognized for your hard work was a bad thing, because you'd be expected to maintain that pace/ quota without anything to show for it. Ever work a really shitty retail job (or equivilant) where you felt like you aren't paid enough to care? Now apply that to every occupation across an entire nation.

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Why thank you, good ser!

Aight so, correct me if I'm wrong, but

TP said
like, nothing bothers me in any type of gore or whatever.

Elder Scrolls Online RPing

Dark Eternity said
So Early Access will start within the next 24-or-so hours. I am totally hyped for this :3Unfortunately, it appears that the majority of responses over here are doing an Aldmeri Dominion character. Sorry, but this is unacceptable for me. There is no superior race, only a race that is dumber on social terms than others, and the Aldmeri never had any great social qualities. Heck, even in Morrowind they were scum. The first time I met an Aldmeri in Morrowind was going like "Be gone, vile spawn!". This has not changed once within the Elder Scrolls series, unless you were playing Aldmeri yourself, but even then, the NPCs were like "Nice magic, but I can do WAY better." Just hate those pompous bastards.Sorry, but I keep venturing inside the Ebonheart or check out the Daggerfall regions. I might post my character names over here, once I have gotten back into the game.

*Altmer

The Aldmer were the O.G. mer, which the altmer claim direct descendence from and thus their alleged racial purity. The Aldmeri Dominion is pretty much a call back to the Aldmer's former reign, even though the aldmer no longer exist.

Besides, it's not all about being a high elf. Khajiit's where it's at.

Sophi, get off the road.