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Beyond Western Horizons - Alternate History Colonial Adventure Time

TheSovereignGrave said
Ah, I see. Either way I would be interested, it seems like a pretty interesting concept and really well thought-out. Though I thought Ottomans started out as vassals of the Sultanate of Rum, and not the Ilkhanate. I do have another question though, would we be restricted to the powers actually doing the colonizing? Or would we be able to play as the natives? I either grossly misread, or I didn't see much mention of Mesoamerica.Also, I'm probably just going to head over to the Thread in the General Interest Check. So you can answer here or there; I'll see it either way.

Well just to say it here: I will be allowing play of Mesoamerica. But they're so disconnected from the events in Europe I didn't think they mattered to be mentioned in the lore.

And the Sultanate of Rum was basically swallowed up by the Illkhanate.


Or came close enough that with alternate history re-writing the House of Osman would become a vassal of the Khans.

A wild Veev appears!

Marhabbah.

Beyond Western Horizons - Alternate History Colonial Adventure Time

Don't see an reason why not. It's not too terribly different or far from the doglock or wheellock systems. So long as there's a sort of doctrine in mind still that you may be able to put off one or two volleys before having to stick someone with a sword or spear.

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Peik said
Ah, the good old Sultan of Algiers.How's the technology?

As you would expect for the early 16th century. Plate armor, broadswords vs sabers, single-shot, Arquebuses. And the widespread use of Islamic Sciences in the Arab world, maybe some in Europe. Bimaristans, perhaps a rudimentary idea of natural selection by the Andalusians.

There may be a better concept of legality and social structure in the sense of better centralization among the Arab colonists akin to a sort of evolving Enlightenment Era society. But that's more social than it is structural and would manifest most on paper than in the ships that are sailed. So it's sort of more dressing than Arab scale mail, swords, dress, and hackbuts.

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Peik said
Fair enough. I was hoping to make a mad Qizilbash Reis who escaped to the Americas.Ah well, there's always other stuff.

There's a wide array of possibilities. I got a friend look at this thinking about how they might play as a company Polish mercenaries stationed in or stuck in the Americas. So whichever you think will work, based on what's been given.

And don't forget to pop by the general interest check thread. I'd really like people's voices on where this would best belong.

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TheSovereignGrave said
Wait, so is this actually a Nation RP? Because you mention our characters serving under the factions, and not us actually playing said factions.

It's up to discussion. I want to see how other people want it played out because I could do it many different ways. I could do it as a single-character RP, or I could open it up to factional play with colonial governors or governors-to-be, mixed in with single-character play; akin to Exil (Which Peppermints actually needs to post in).

And I figured there'd be self-proclaimed history nerds who would be interested but who may not actually leave this section. So it'd be a shame to cute out their voice in the candidacy race between here, Casual, or Advanced.

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When all else fails: Wikiped.

And when it comes to Privateers then I think Hayreddin Barbarossa may be a good start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayreddin_Barbarossa
General: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates

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Peik said
How did Persia become Shi'a (or rather, what happened to the Safavid tariqa)? How did the Ottomans convert?Oh, and, I'm interested, obviously.

Illkhanate.

Before the Ottomans become the Ottomans they were historically a subject of the Illkhanate. The Mongol Illkhanate favored and converted to Shi'a while they ruled over Persia. Under this presumed time-line one of Osman's heirs could have presumably followed suit by either insistence by the Khan or some other factor. When the Mongols withdrew, the Ottomans were left behind and did as they did. Not as Sunni, but as Shia.

The means are not wholly important to the scope of the RP which for the large part is centered on the Mu'tazilah inspired Sunnis.

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And so long as it's not overnight. Feed it into itself and evolve naturally. Just don't go, "And then it happened".

Then again, it could just happen and no one would be able to respond like the one coup in Australia some time back. But that itself would have had some behind the scenes work leading back a while that fired on that day.

Rise of Empires

Vilageidiotx said
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Pretty much. Also I have plenty of exploration to do in reference to the ownership of Japan. Needless to say: it ain't peaceful. And a large, organized, Army corp of Engineers can also feed on into public service with the maintenance of Chinese infrastructure, giving out peace-time jobs based paid on the pretense of public service. So they may be on the military registry but not necessarily receiving pay at that time: but they're certainly working and getting pay from another department.

There could also be the possibility that I have yet to demobilize.