Dinh AaronMk

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

Oh, to anyone who cares the Bioshock series is fifteen dollars on Steam this weekend.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

Oh, Wilted Rose. I managed to corner Googer over Steam and talked to him, since he'd be the most directly relevant to you. By his word he's good with you being Italy, so you're now allowed to post as the Kingdom of Italy under ye olde House of Savoy.

If you ever need to know anything else before moving on, then do ask away here.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

I still need your word on Italy.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

We still have room if you think you can write to par.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

Which spot would you like?

Star wars Canon NO MORE!!!

Oh good, there goes the bullshit everything-destroyers.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

Input from Lord Googer, master of the Mediterranean will be needed here.

I'll also drop the lore summary in case you haven't read it:

Italy

9: Italy

Fought on the side of the Allied Powers during the Great War. Invaded by the Ottoman Empire in the early 1970s. Spanish support helps secure the northern part of the country and halt the Ottoman advance. By 1974, the Spanish governor of Northern Italy - Aurelio Batista - rules the north alone. Later, Batista goes on to push the Ottomans out of Southern Italy. Shortly after, he cuts his ties to Spain. He rules Italy with an iron fist for several years.

In 1976, Italian rebels begin to fight back against the Batistan regime. Spain - enraged that Batista refused to heel - begins to secretly assist the rebel cause. In early 1977, Spain declares war on Batista's regime and engages in open warfare. Batista flees the country and the rebels take over, forming a new government.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

And now comes the time where I can stop worrying like a little pussy about math, now that I am done with my finals and have passed.

Now begins the summer of work before the fall semester.

The Wolves of the Mediterranean

Danko said
While I thank you for your input please keep in mind this is a fictional version of our world. In this world slavery in Europe was never abolished, the relevant policies by the different countries you have mentioned never came into being. The institution of slavery in this world isn't out of the blue, it's been there for a long time and was never dead. The main changes in slavery throughout history in this world are the peoples who are being enslaved.Plus this is a setting for an adventure story, I'm not a historian, nor am I a sociologist or expert on slavery. Just a history enthusiast who wants to create an adventure story that I can enjoy with some like minded people.

I still creates plot-holes big enough to sail the British Navy through. And the existence of the British Empire as it exists and Austria-Hungary to be around would suggest that in some way the European Enlightenment came to being, and with it the crash-course for abolitionism in Europe.

You simply can not keep a system like slavery running in a world of growing national and social consciousness. When Empires span across half the world and have in their borders so many different cultural ideologies it'll inevitably introduce ideas of pluralism in society and religion. If the system didn't break when it did on the real time-line, it would have sooner or later. The French Revolution would have seen to that and the Age of Liberalism.

I frankly can not find a lamp-shade big enough to hide the fact.

And slavery only really benefits a certain type of economy, namely the agricultural estate-holding economy. In societies who have industrialized - as would have happened in much of Europe by this point - the work of machines and industrial organization would have lessened the cost of labor enough making slavery a moot point. And no pay for work more dangerous than swinging a sickle in a field of wheat tends to make people angrier. Just ask czarist Russia.

The Wolves of the Mediterranean

I just got to point this out:

Slaves, slavery having never been abolished, are the most valuable commodity in this area of the world and people pay high prices for healthy slaves and the Mediterranean is the place where most of the slave trade exists making it a highly sought after area by the powers of Europe.

Unless something really fucking wild happened in Europe, the slave trade should still be very much dead by this point in history. I highly doubt a lack of a Great War would have changed public opinion to re-legalize slavery after it was abolished in the 1700's.

Hell, by the time of Napoleon slavery would have been totally abolished throughout Europe, with the exception of the Ottoman Empire which abolished the practice in the Empire later in the 1880's. And there would have been a big enough European-styled political movement in the Empire (Young Turks) to keep slavery abolished (though shooting Armenians would still be in good taste).

For the rest of Europe, it would have been by the time this RP opens a lush two-hundred years of human trafficking being illegal. The political culture - shaped since the Enlightenment of the 1700's when abolition became a hot item - would very much frown on the concept of slavery and having slaves would be very much frowned upon.

It just seems crazy that out of the blue slavery would be a thing when the western powers get to sit on their African wealth. Sure the conditions would not have been optimal for labor (like the Congo Free State, which would have been abolished by the Belgian parliament and turned into the Belgian Congo), but there would have been rights at least. Otherwise, the only other "slave trader" nation that I could see existing would be the Turks. But they'd hardly have anyone around them to enslave but the local Kurdish and Armenian minority or criminals, and that's not much of an international market.

The United Kingdom has also been fairly aggressive politically and militarily in abolishing slavery throughout its reach since 1820. Given its rule of Gibraltr and Malta, it would have the naval bases need to enforce its say and assist other local Great Powers - like the Kingdom of Italy - in keeping the slaves Abolished. And the British Navy isn't exactly something that would go away.

Simply put, the slave trade in the European world - and for the most part beyond - would be dead.