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Peace is a Lie, there is only Passion. Through Passion, I gain Strength. Through Strength, I gain Power. Through Power, I gain Victory. Through Victory, My Chains are Broken. The Force Shall Free Me.
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Peace is a Lie, there is only Passion. Through Passion, I gain Strength. Through Strength, I gain Power. Through Power, I gain Victory. Through Victory, My Chains are Broken. The Force Shall Free Me.
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They're both ridiculously stubborn.
Do you think its a good idea to offend/insult the bioweapons expert?
From what we've been able to research forth, there is no such thing as a stripped-down asgard core. There is having an asgard core, and there is not having one. No partials.
Removing one bit form it, will cripple other bits. For a warship designed to go into hot situations where it might be at risk, there might be reason to skip having a full core, but it could just as well have a powerful self-destruct built into the memory banks to keep information out of wrong hands.
Tau'ri may know more than a little about Asgard tech, but there is still a lot that is far beyond them. Much like the database of the ancients was unimaginably far beyond the Asgard.
Till we see lore-based proof that they've managed to build an asgard core that wasn't flawed yet had removed the knowledge of the Asgard, we'll treat the ship core as the same as the one on the Hammond and on the Odyssey. Probably with more intricate security systems to prevent abuse, but even these will probably have work-arounds.
And if you're thinking of suddenly removing the core, Sep.... That is beyond illogical on a research vessel. We may joke about using the core for all sorts of DEM tasks (Deus Ex Machina), but we'd not actually do it. Using DEM is boring and shows that a real solution wasn't bothered with. Pretty sure most others here feel the same.
By this time, the ships will be built with the core inside them from the start. Its less time-consuming than post-construction retrofit, and it'll make a better ship in the end, as you won't need to remove/replace half the systems to get it in right. Its possible that even the Apollo and the Daedalus have cores by now, but that isn't specified anywhere we could find, so we'll go with that those don't. Maybe to keep the risk of Asgard knowledge falling into wraith hands at minimum. They would really not want them to gain any science even remotely related to the intergalactic hyperdrive tech, which would certainly be in the core.
Its one thing to have the knowledge available. Quite another to be able to navigate it easily or even use it without deadly mishaps.
There's two things we feel the ship should not have:
ZPM: There's few of these, and the dedicated warships & such need them more than a research vessel.
Cloak: Even with years to study the Odyssey cloak that Daniel-Merlin added, they probably don't understand enough about it to duplicate it.
As for balancing out the enemies like the Lucians:
This is simple. The goa'uld hardly ever innovated much from Ptah's original ship specs. When they did, they kept their improvements so secret that most would die with their creator. Only those with knowledge beyond that of the goa'uld (I.E. Anubis) were able to implement major stuff, and quite a bit of that was lost with him.
Humans on the other hand, be they Tau'ri or not, tend to be quite innovative. And there's a number of sources for tech out in the galaxy that could balance the scales somewhat. It doesn't matter much what the source is, so long as it gives a trace if a balance.
When it comes to ensuring that people don't go for the lazy stuff like metagaming, trust the players to police each other, then slap the ones that don't get in line.
Removing one bit form it, will cripple other bits. For a warship designed to go into hot situations where it might be at risk, there might be reason to skip having a full core, but it could just as well have a powerful self-destruct built into the memory banks to keep information out of wrong hands.
Tau'ri may know more than a little about Asgard tech, but there is still a lot that is far beyond them. Much like the database of the ancients was unimaginably far beyond the Asgard.
Till we see lore-based proof that they've managed to build an asgard core that wasn't flawed yet had removed the knowledge of the Asgard, we'll treat the ship core as the same as the one on the Hammond and on the Odyssey. Probably with more intricate security systems to prevent abuse, but even these will probably have work-arounds.
And if you're thinking of suddenly removing the core, Sep.... That is beyond illogical on a research vessel. We may joke about using the core for all sorts of DEM tasks (Deus Ex Machina), but we'd not actually do it. Using DEM is boring and shows that a real solution wasn't bothered with. Pretty sure most others here feel the same.
By this time, the ships will be built with the core inside them from the start. Its less time-consuming than post-construction retrofit, and it'll make a better ship in the end, as you won't need to remove/replace half the systems to get it in right. Its possible that even the Apollo and the Daedalus have cores by now, but that isn't specified anywhere we could find, so we'll go with that those don't. Maybe to keep the risk of Asgard knowledge falling into wraith hands at minimum. They would really not want them to gain any science even remotely related to the intergalactic hyperdrive tech, which would certainly be in the core.
Its one thing to have the knowledge available. Quite another to be able to navigate it easily or even use it without deadly mishaps.
There's two things we feel the ship should not have:
ZPM: There's few of these, and the dedicated warships & such need them more than a research vessel.
Cloak: Even with years to study the Odyssey cloak that Daniel-Merlin added, they probably don't understand enough about it to duplicate it.
As for balancing out the enemies like the Lucians:
This is simple. The goa'uld hardly ever innovated much from Ptah's original ship specs. When they did, they kept their improvements so secret that most would die with their creator. Only those with knowledge beyond that of the goa'uld (I.E. Anubis) were able to implement major stuff, and quite a bit of that was lost with him.
Humans on the other hand, be they Tau'ri or not, tend to be quite innovative. And there's a number of sources for tech out in the galaxy that could balance the scales somewhat. It doesn't matter much what the source is, so long as it gives a trace if a balance.
When it comes to ensuring that people don't go for the lazy stuff like metagaming, trust the players to police each other, then slap the ones that don't get in line.
There are lots of other 304's around at this time, and since the Langford is not primarily serving in a warship role, it does not make sense to have any spare ZPM there. The Asgard power core is more than sufficient to make it a suitable threat against most opponents.
The real problem with bringing in systems like cloak is that its not understood quite well enough to be efficient enough on a ship the size of a 304. A cloak could probably use same sort of emitters as a shield, but that could be limited to lantean-class emitters. The Asgard, so far as we've seen, have not been very much into cloaking ships.
If we really wanted the ship to be nigh-indestructible, we'd have a merlin cloak on it, not a regular cloak. But as Forsythe said, that sort of thing would be boring.
The real problem with bringing in systems like cloak is that its not understood quite well enough to be efficient enough on a ship the size of a 304. A cloak could probably use same sort of emitters as a shield, but that could be limited to lantean-class emitters. The Asgard, so far as we've seen, have not been very much into cloaking ships.
If we really wanted the ship to be nigh-indestructible, we'd have a merlin cloak on it, not a regular cloak. But as Forsythe said, that sort of thing would be boring.
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Fallen's understanding is the same as ours. The chair platform was moved, not the weapons array. Moving the latter would have required moving quite a bit of the ancient outpost.
Fallen's understanding is the same as ours. The chair platform was moved, not the weapons array. Moving the latter would have required moving quite a bit of the ancient outpost.
What we feel about the differences between the three categories has more or less been stated by others already.
The most important thing we have to say is that people should not be scared to try a level above where they think they are comfortable. Casual might seem scary at first, but if you avoid the wrong RPs, you'll find that the plot is well worth it, without having the quite-so-impossibly-fast pace of some free RPs.
As advanced goes, this category is probably the one the greatest number of people are scared of. Which is kind of silly. At least where our advanced RP is concerned, the only real requirements are that you can follow the RP's lore, write with decent lingual quality and have fun. Some may write near essay-length, but others can achieve just as much in 3-4 paragraphs. The longest advanced posts typically have multiple authors, and its a well-known fact that a collab can easily get far longer than what most people write alone.
If your English is of relatively good quality (doesn't have to be flawless), don't be scared to try advanced. If it doesn't work out the first time, don't run. Just leave that RP.
Either wait a while, or just jump into another RP, perhaps with a different GM/player group. Perhaps try a different type of character for yourself. Not all characters work for everyone.
If advanced RPs don't work for you after five or more attempts, only then might it be worth considering that advanced really isn't something for you. Not before. There are so many different GM styles that trying any less will not give you anywhere near any idea of what is available out there.
The gist of the above: Don't be afraid to try more than you're initially comfortable with. Most RPers here don't bite. Much.
The most important thing we have to say is that people should not be scared to try a level above where they think they are comfortable. Casual might seem scary at first, but if you avoid the wrong RPs, you'll find that the plot is well worth it, without having the quite-so-impossibly-fast pace of some free RPs.
As advanced goes, this category is probably the one the greatest number of people are scared of. Which is kind of silly. At least where our advanced RP is concerned, the only real requirements are that you can follow the RP's lore, write with decent lingual quality and have fun. Some may write near essay-length, but others can achieve just as much in 3-4 paragraphs. The longest advanced posts typically have multiple authors, and its a well-known fact that a collab can easily get far longer than what most people write alone.
If your English is of relatively good quality (doesn't have to be flawless), don't be scared to try advanced. If it doesn't work out the first time, don't run. Just leave that RP.
Either wait a while, or just jump into another RP, perhaps with a different GM/player group. Perhaps try a different type of character for yourself. Not all characters work for everyone.
If advanced RPs don't work for you after five or more attempts, only then might it be worth considering that advanced really isn't something for you. Not before. There are so many different GM styles that trying any less will not give you anywhere near any idea of what is available out there.
The gist of the above: Don't be afraid to try more than you're initially comfortable with. Most RPers here don't bite. Much.
Technically the asgard core's power source is fairly OP too. Just not quite so much as a ZPM.
Indeed. The chair was moved to Area 51. Not the weapons platform it was connected to. They would have had to dig up a lot of stuff to get the weapons platform out and away.
Also, they've got a little 50% charge ZPM laying around that they're not using... Primarily because its a little... contaminated...
(Camulus' fault)
Also, they've got a little 50% charge ZPM laying around that they're not using... Primarily because its a little... contaminated...
(Camulus' fault)
we like our tactic better. Though it might dent the snout a bit.
Its part of the plan to see this implemented, along with a number of (semi-)related features.
see this topic
see this topic
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