EveryMemeAKing

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

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That's an interesting choice of number, but thank you nonetheless. I take pride in my order-maintenance capabilities.

@Mihndar

Awesome!
I will accept 1 more person as a co-gm.

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

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I would like to volunteer for such an honor.

@Mihndar

Great, and I trust you since your app seems great so far!
I welcome you @Mihndar to the order of GMs, this title shall bring honour to your family for the next 69 generations!

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

I am thinking about taking Brazil too

@Murtox

A bit much I would say, I would think that all South American nations except Brazil is fine
Edit: Again, if anyone would like to accept my request to be co-gm I'd be happy. I'd accept 2 other co-gms.

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

I feel as though this is an important question for me to ask before I presume it.

What with the breakup of the United States and the federated EU's poor economic and financial status, can it then be assumed that Great Britain is the post-war world's financial leader, and the pound sterling the international reserve currency? I intend on making my state more or less a direct, logical continuation of the present day United Kingdom, taking the drastic changes in the international world into account.

@The Nexerus

It would be one of the few Powers from the Pre-WW3 World (Along with Russia) that would continue to be united and powerful.

@Willy Vereb@MetalLover
So sorry about not getting back to you guys earlier. I'm fine with the concessions of bolded states and l the italicized ones. I guess I'll take France, though my initial reason for not including them or the UK were initially France has less in common with the other nations and splendid isolation, respectively.

Edit: Does anyone want the other Scandinavian countries?

@Durandal

Thats good.

I'll have the edited version of my app up sometime later tonight or tomorrow.

@Willy Vereb
How does having a divided Slovakia as a point of contention sound, kind of like East and West Germany?

@Durandal

Good to know.

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Thanks, it's complete as of now.

Also, I could update/colorize the map once all the submissions are in.

@Odysseus

Accepted! Put it in the Characters Section! Also, talk to Nexerus, cause he said he would do the map, maybe you could work together?

Wow, this kind of has exploded since I posted in the int check. Anyway, here's my WIP nation sheet. It contains some more updates since initially posted in the int check.

WIP:

Nation App
Legal Nation Name (Such As United Soviet Socialist States of America):
The Caliphate of Instanbul

What Areas Do You Control (Territories):
Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Isreal, Sinai, Egypt, Iraq

Flag or Banner (National and Political):



Political Party (What Party leads the Nation):
Sunni Brotherhood

Type of Government (Easy Pz):
A Caliphate. A type of theocratic autocracy where the highest religious leader (Caliph) is also the highest political leader. The Caliph is the Chosen representative of Allah in the mortal world. The Shura, a gathering of community leaders elects the Caliph for life. Upon the Caliphs death, all the community leaders gather to choose the next Caliph. It is the Sunni Brotherhood party who presents the possible candidates to the Shura.

Military (How many People and Military and Main Generals):

The caliphate's regular military is divided into 3 branches. Army, Air-force and Navy. The navy includes the marine corps. The Caliphate conscripts every able bodied man aged 17 into a 5 year service. After their initial service the conscripts can join the military as a career soldier. The higher ranking officers and special forces units consists of career soldiers. Next to the official military forces the Caliphate has a paramilitary wing of radical islamists recruited from all over the world known as the Martyr Brigade.

Army

Army:
Manpower: 1.500.000
Tanks: 2.500
APC's and IVF: 12.500
Self Propelled artillery: 800

Air-force

Air-force:
Multi-role fighters: 800
Air dominance fighters: 250
Attack helicopter: 400

Navy

Navy:
Marine infantry: 50.000
Aircraft carriers: 2
Helicopter carriers: 4
Destroyers: 16
Frigates: 22
Corvettes: 20
Submarines: 12
Amphibious landing platforms: 4

Army theaters of command

Army theaters of command

Anatolian command
Marshal Kemal Kulgirez

Caucasian command
General Anatoli Bakkali

Middle-Eastern Command
General Ibrahim Ataman

African command
Marshal Mohammed Bozguney

Navy Theaters of command

Navy Theaters of command:

Mediterranean Command
Admiral Mohammed Saleh

Black Sea Command
Admiral Ahmed Baykara

Caspian Sea Command
Rear admiral Ibn Al-Azala

Red Sea Command
Admiral Badr Al-Hamdani

Martyr Brigades
The martyr brigades is a multinational fundamentalist paramilitary organization with the aim of adding other territories to the Caliphate. It consists of radical Islamic insurgents who are trained in the Caliphate to conduct a-symmetric warfare and terrorism against the infidels. Recruits from all across the world join this organization and setup local cells to further the spread of the true Islam within their own country. Its idiology teaches its members that it is the duty to wage jihad upon all the infidels until the entire world is united under one Caliphate.

Productions (What your nation Produces):
Oil, gas, agricultural products, industrial manufactured goods, Iron. Another great source of income to the Caliphate is the exploitation of the Suez Canal and the Bosphorus strait. Countries and companies have to pay special tributes to the Caliphate in order to make use of the sea lanes.

Due to the extremely fundamentalist interpretation of the Quran, sharia and other Islamic works the capitalist banking system has been replaced by Islamic banking which does not charge interest on their loans. Also the country is closed to all international companies that are not run by the Islamic banking principles. This has a negative impact on the countries economy.

History of the Nation (Easy Pz):

Main Race (What is your State Race + Racial Demographics):
Turks: 48 %
Arabs: 42%
Other: 10%

Main Religion (What is your State Religion + Religious Demographics):
Radical Sunni Islam. The Caliphate endorses a very radical version of the Sunni Islam. It forces everyone within the state to convert to this form of Islam. Religious minorities have been subjugated to extreme violence and genocide. Any other form of religion is prohibited by the state. People who refuse to convert can be punished by death of sold into slavery. Most people who identify with other religions than the Sunni Islam are slaves owned by religious fighters and leaders.

Other:

@Milkman

Great, just finish the History and you should be accepted!

WIP, but please let me know if it is acceptable so far :)

The United Kingdom of Greater Britannia

Legal Nation Name:
The United Kingdom of Greater Britannia

What Areas Do You Control?:
The current territories of the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland; Calais (in France) and a small, undefined and fluctuating area around it; the Faroe Islands; Gibraltar; and Iceland (although the interior is only nominally under British control - the coast is, however, under London's direct administration.) Other Overseas Territories have either been annexed by other powers (a motive for new British expansionism) or are too isolated to be governed directly from London. Britain seeks to re-establish control over these lost territories.

Flag or Banner:

Union Flag

Political Party:
British New Imperialist Party (a radicalised merger of elements of today's Conservative and UKIP parties. These two parties continue to exist but are much weaker and less influential)

Type of Government:
Constitutional Monarchy and Parliamentary Democracy

Military: 250,000 (approx.), and rising.

Productions:
Oil (from North Sea), Steel, Shipbuilding, Automobiles, limited satellite industry based in Scotland, export of wind-generated electric power to other European nations (if any others still exist).

History of the Nation:
Will be completed and refined if/when other European nations join.

Will be along the lines of economic devastation after the Third World War giving rise to extremist parties in an unstable British state (still including Scotland after the socialist policies of SNP failed and drastically weakened both the interior Scottish economy and that of the rest of the United Kingdom, gaining support for continued union with England to prevent Scottish collapse). These extremist groups gained support for much the same reasons as the fascist powers of the 20th century rose to power. Fortunately, the Constitutional Monarchy (still intact at this time) preserved democracy by refusing point blank to sign any proposals by Parliament to abolish the system, both out of genuine concern for the well-being of the British people and out of the expectation that any dictator would seek to remove the monarchy as an opposition and counterbalance to their rule. To protect the monarchy, the Queen issued an order as her last act before she died, re-creating the Royalist forces of the English Civil War. They were to again represent the interests of the monarch, but act only as bodyguards against treasonous aggression.

Since then, elements of the far right have crept into Parliament but are kept from absolute power by the remaining, less radicalised parties and the influence of the monarchy. This has not prevented, however, a significant increase in military spending and militarisation and a more aggressive foreign policy - not opposed by most MPs as Britain lacks the resources to become self-sufficient and a significant world power.

Ultimately, Britain seized control of Eire, the Faroes and Iceland, and consolidated British holdings on the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands and Gibraltar by ingraining them into the United Kingdom itself.

Main Race:
White British (85%)
Black African/Commonwealth/British (3%)
Asian/Asian British (2.3%)
Other (9.7%)

Main Religion:
Christianity (professing) (65%)
No Religion (25%)
Islam (5%)
Other (5%)

Other:
- Head of State - King William V (Her Majesty the Queen, Prince Philip and Prince Charles all perished in the Third World War)
- Head of Government - Prime Minister Joseph Blakeney

@Iluvatar

Sorry man, someone else claimed the UK earlier, maybe you can play a United Scandinavia?

Great Britain

United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland

Territories:: Great Britain, Ireland, and all British overseas territories and Crown dependencies, as well as Newfoundland, Cyprus and Iceland.

Political Party: Conservative and Unionist Party majority government. The Opposition is divided between two ideologically contrasting major players: left-wing Labour, and the far-right 'Republican Alliance', founded during the Great British Boom by American expatriates and advocating abolition of the monarchy and more assertive foreign policy, especially in relation to communist regimes.

Type of Government: Parliamentary Democracy under Constitutional Monarchy.

Military: To be determined.

Economy: The United Kingdom is the world's largest economy, and an international leader in finance, manufacturing, and technology. Although very capitalist, and populated by a great many of rich expatriates from now communist countries, Great Britain does not shy away from performing business with any state so inclined to deal with it, including extremists on either side of the political spectrum.

The United Kingdom's is a largely market-oriented economy, and the government makes a point of keeping it this way. Nearly all production is conducted by private enterprises, and most services (excluding some pincushions like healthcare) are operated by the private sector as well. This means that although the United Kingdom's economy is both large and quickly expanding, there is still a very evident class divide in British society, as there has always been. The poor are richer than they've ever been before, however, and plentiful employment opportunities coupled with economically naturally fast-growing wages keep the lower cases placated.

A result of the post-war influx of foreign businesses and workers into the United Kingdom was an intense and rapid technological evolution, centred around London. The "Great British Boom", as it has become colloquially known, extended to all theatres of technology, from consumer electronics to military weaponry. Devices that were previously thought of as fantastical objects of science fiction, such as laser weaponry, became the new reality. This new frontier of technology is expanding ever still, bringing humanity's progress ever forward, with the British once again at the helm.

Post-War History: As a consequence of being largely spared from the devastation of WWIII, Great Britain emerged from the war as the world's largest and fastest growing economy—the new old superpower. The country's financial sector sky-rocketed as a result of the total abolition of the United States dollar and severe war-time strain on the Euro, culminating in the pound sterling ascension to the status of reserve currency. Industry as well, particularly manufacturing, was given a stupendous advantage by the infrastructural devastation of so many of the nation's competitors. With the factories of Germany and the United States either bombed out or exhausted, the factories of England multiplied and innovated, and many major international manufacturers either established a new presence in or outright relocated to the United Kingdom.

The Republic of Ireland enjoyed only a few short years of comparative advantage over the United Kingdom following British withdrawal from the European Union. Once the war started, the Irish found themselves drawn into it by a consequence of their close ties with Brussels, and Dublin conscripted many young Irish men and women up to join the newly founded European Federation's sovereign military. A large many, fearing war and coveting British prosperity, escaped into either Northern Ireland or Great Britain itself. This was a major headache for Dublin, and the major Irish political parties, all of which supported Ireland's place in the European Federation, found themselves ostracized by the new Irish generation. A second outbreak of the Troubles broke out in the Emerald Isle, only this time instead of focusing in Northern Ireland, they excluded it. Belfast was bolstered at Dublin's expense, and the Irish Republic became despised by its people for its insistence—both past and present—on connecting Ireland to Europe. Outbreaks of violence between anti and pro-federation Irishmen became common, and London began to give first illicit and then public support to anti-EU factions. Eventually, the fighting became so intense that the Irish forces deployed abroad were sent back home to quell the unrest, and the anti-EU factions suffered brutal reprisals. Leaders of the anti-EU factions fled to Belfast, and, with London's approval, signed the 'Belfast Declaration', declaring an newly independent State of Ireland consisting of both the European Federation's Irish territories and British Northern Ireland. The United Kingdom's military and economic might was enough to pressure the EU Federation to acquiesce, and the pro-EU factions in power in Ireland therefore found themselves isolated. The British military moved in, quickly destroying the Irish military and capturing Dublin and the other major cities, restoring order amongst the sectarian chaos. All paramilitary factions, both anti-EU and pro-EU, were formally outlawed, and a referendum was held to determine the future of Ireland. The Irish people, including all residents of the entire island, were presented with three options: absolute independence, incorporation back into the European Federation, or incorporation back into the United Kingdom. Hoping to become a part of the Great British Boom, the majority of the Irish people selected the second option. Their ensuing prosperity and the migration of both Britons and foreign immigrants into Ireland cemented the island's place within the United Kingdom for the foreseeable future. The Irish now took part, as British citizens, in the huge technological and manufacturing advances that the collapse of so much of the rest of the world had made way for, for them and their fellow statesmen across the Irish Sea.

Ireland was far from the only country to face crisis, political or economic, from the outbreak of war. The manufacturing might of the third world took a tumble from WWIII, based not only on loss of production capability, but also loss of market access. The rise of authoritarian and communist regimes across Asia and Africa meant that their low labour costs could no longer be taken advantage of by western companies, the changing political environment working in every way in London's favour. The financiers of Singapore and Hong Kong packed up and moved wholesale to London, fearing ruin should they remain in their corner of the world much longer. The United Kingdom welcomed not only the economies of foreign nations with open arms, but also many of their people. The violent collapse of the United States and the widespread devastation of the European mainland forced tens of millions from their homes, and, with nowhere else to go, across either the English Channel or North Atlantic to the safety and prosperity of the British Home Isles. This new wave of immigration from the west replaced an almost complete cessation of migration from the Third World, the poor of the world's newly communist states finding themselves physically unable to flee their destitution and follow behind their former employers, blocked by men in revolutionary garb calling them traitors. This fundamental alteration to the British growth dynamic resulted in major partisan policy changes as well. The Tories became the party of immigrants, welcoming with open arms the largely Anglophone, largely right-wing and largely white newcomers. Labour, fearing demographic outmaneuvering and potential overpopulation, became more critical of international migrants, commenting on the rapidly increasing competition for employment as a reason to close the borders. The Great Migration's effects, of course, were not limited to the economy and politics, but also most directly affected British demographics.

Racial and Cultural Demographics
74% White British (including those who self-identify solely as English, Scottish, Irish, etc.)
18% Other White ('American', German, Polish, etc.)
03% Asian (Predominantly Indian and Pakistani.)
02% Black (Primarily from/in the British Caribbean.)
02% Other (Mixed Race, Not Specified, etc.)

Religious Demographics
62% Christian (largest Christian denomination is the Church of England, the official state church).
34% Irreligious and/or Atheist.
02% Muslim.
02% Other (Hinduism, Judaism, etc.)

Head of State: William V.

Head of Government: Prime Minister Janet Bright.

@The Nexerus

Perfect! Accepted, put it in the Characters Tab!

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

I am generally good with maps. I'll try to whip up an approximation of everyone's claims thus far after I've worked on my NS.

@The Nexerus

Thanks.

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

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I think it would make much more sense for the federated EU to claim France. If anything, I will considering adjusting my claim to include all or part of Australia and New Zealand, and/or all or part of other former British dominions.

@The Nexerus

Ok, You know what, here is an idea. @Durandal@Willy Vereb.
Ok Durandal, let Willy get the territories he wants, and the EU can get France. Hows that sound?

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

This will be my last post for about 3 hours as I got to go do something, but here is a request. Would any of you like to be the official map maker or Co-Gm cause so many people are voicing interest I don't know if I can run this on my own. I will be accepting 2 Co-Gms.

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

<Snipped quote by MetalLover>I'll post my NS in the OOC regardless and then alter things depending on how my talks with Durandal go.
With my NS out we both know which parts would clash and then fix things accordingly.

@Willy Vereb

Ok, I'm Fine with that.

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

Ok, I've finished my app.

Edit: slight update on the history

Dominus

Legal Nation Name:
Dominus, Inc.

Territories Controlled:
Dominus bases its operations in the Cayman Islands, and is the regional authority of the islands. Technically, the Cayman Islands are privately owned by the Director of Dominus, and its 60,000 residents all rent the property from her. Dominus also controls regional HQs in New York, Vienna and Shanghai.

Terms of Service:

The following contains notable parts of the Dominus Terms of Service, which much be adhered to by the client that hired Dominus. Failure to comply with the Terms of Service will result in immediate termination of any contract and a possible future penalty, as Dominus sees fit.

Dominus Terms of Service

PAYMENTS AND REFUND POLICY

You agree that you will fully pay for any service executed by Dominus on your behalf. If you cannot pay in full at the time or arrange a proper payment plan that Dominus deems acceptable, your property may be repossessed by Dominus until the payment is fulfilled.

DOMINUS LICENSING RESTRICTIONS

Dominus is a for-hire intelligence service, however there are certain things that the company refuses to do based on moral objections.

* Dominus will only neutralize designated enemy combatants of the client and any target that the field agents or technology operators deign an immediate obstruction to the mission.

* Dominus WILL NOT designate a target under the age of 14 as an enemy combatant.

* Dominus WILL NOT take part in the production or acquisition of a product relating to biological warfare.

* A Dominus branch WILL NOT commit any harmful act against a current client, however separate branches can be hired by opposing clients at the same time.

* Dominus WILL NOT engage in torture; neutralization is to be carried out as fast and painlessly as possible.

DOMINUS PROTECTION CLAUSE

It is hereby enforced that ANY CURRENT CLIENT of Dominus, if they possess a military or paramilitary force, is HEREBY OBLIGATED to come to the defense of Dominus, Inc. should a foreign paramilitary or military force attack the Cayman Islands, regional headquarters located in New York, Vienna or Shanghai, or ANY OTHER private property of Dominus Director Cordia Tsao.

DOMINUS EXTRACTION CLAUSE

It is hereby enforced that if a Dominus agent is captured in the field, the client will be given the option to either confess to hiring Dominus and formally request the agent be released, and thereby be exempt from the cost of the failed mission, or disavow the mission, adhering to pay it in full but sacrificing the life of the agent in the field.

Type of Government:
Dominus is formally an independent agency that licenses itself out to any client, within Dominus' terms of service. Dominus is composed of several branches, both regional and according to function. These branches are headed by a Chairman or Chairwoman. All Chairpersons report to the Director of Dominus, Inc., Cordia Tsao. Dominus employs security forces for its buildings, but does not support a traditional paramilitary force.

Number of branches: CLASSIFIED
Number of employees: CLASSIFIED

Military:

The Director of Dominus, who oversees all operations, is Cordia Tsao.

The following are branches of Dominus, who act independently of each other and report to the Director:

Branches

Intelligence and Reconnaissance
Dominus technology and agents gather information otherwise unavailable to the client. Chairman: Gerald Frey

Neutralization
Dominus will engage in targeted neutralization of enemy combatants, as designated by the client. AKA assassination. Chairman: Silas Hoover

Sabotage
Dominus will destroy important technology, weapons, buildings, roads, etc. of the designated target. Chairwoman: Anke Freud

Target Retrieval
Dominus will enter an enemy zone and retrieve a combatant as a POW. AKA, kidnapping. Chairman: James Tsao

Security Management and Consultation
Dominus will send field agents to serve as bodyguard to the client or the designated target, building, border, road, etc. of a client. Dominus will also design a security system for the client upon request. Chairwoman: Maria Gonzalez

Investigation and Screening
Dominus will investigate any crime, wrongdoing or mishap on behalf of the client. Dominus will also screen any potential employee of the client. Chairman: Henri Martel.

Journalism
Dominus employs its own news agency, Dominus News Network, DNN, that can be ordered by a client country, and its message can be targeted as the target wants. AKA, propaganda. Chairwoman: Juliana Biru

Each branch employs several thousand workers, however Dominus special agents are much fewer in number. Each branch controls around 20-40 highly trained field agents, executives and technology experts in their respective field.

All chairpersons are promoted from within their branch, so they have full awareness of what a mission needs to be completed. Many are former field agents or career managers.

Productions:
Dominus trains highly specialized agents to perform several covert tasks as indicated by their clients. They also have a highly efficient weapons facility in the Cayman Islands that produces cheap, basic weaponry, such as assault rifles. Dominus employs agents from all over the world.

History of the Nation:

During World War III, the allied powers needed as much intelligence as they could gather on their enemies. They began to hire private security firms to serve as security and intelligence. Dominus, at the time, was one of these companies. An American company, Dominus was hired to go behind enemy lines and gather military intelligence, in addition to having Dominus agents serve as personal security guards of the families of several world leaders. Several different nations poured money into firms such as Dominus in order to exploit their intelligence and covert capabilities with no political drawback on the countries themselves. Dominus achieved worldwide renown during WWIII, as it successfully prevented an assassination attempt on the First Lady of the United States, and it discovered a major invasion plan by China into the United States, that would have allowed the Chinese to basically invade all of Alaska.

When WWIII was winding down, nations had less money to give to Dominus, but they expected the same level of operations. Dominus was stretched thin, and several of their famed operations began to fail. Agents were caught in China and Russia and unknown assassins caused the jet of the Prime Minister of Italy to crash into the ocean, taking the PM and four Dominus security guards with it. Dominus' CEO, Richard Lovejoy, began to desperately go to allied powers and ask for more funding, but he was turned away. Dominus grew weaker until unknown mercenaries stormed Dominus' headquarters in New York and killed over two dozen employees, including Lovejoy. Dominus threatened to collapse upon itself when Cordia Tsao, Chairwoman of the Intelligence and Reconnaissance division of Dominus and rather eccentric millionaire, assumed control. Due to the prejudice against Chinese in America because of the war, Cordia took Dominus out of the States and to her resort in the Cayman Islands. Dominus cut ties to the allied powers and became an independent organization. Cordia began to model Dominus after the CIA, rather than a security company. When America eventually collapsed, Cordia recruited several hundred CIA agents to work for Dominus and help design it.

After the war, Dominus was a company in name only. It was now a rogue intelligence organization. Ms. Tsao was no longer the CEO, but the Director. Cordia purchased the Cayman Islands from the Crown of England after the war for a relative bargain due to Britain's debts, and established Dominus with the rents from the residents of the Islands as well as the considerable tourism and money laundering associated with the Cayman Islands. A few years after the war ended, Dominus began to expand its practices from intelligence and security to more dubious operations, such as assassination, sabotage and kidnapping. In the chaos that followed the great war, Dominus found much work, and they have continued throughout the past 20 years relatively unopposed when it comes to covert operations.

Dominus has the reputation as being efficient and professional, as does Director Tsao. Nicknamed by many people around the world "The Illuminati", Dominus takes pride in its reputation as a force that can see anyone's darkest secrets and reveal them to the highest bidder.

Cordia Tsao herself is approaching the age of 70 and is known as a philanthropist and a socialite. She often travels the world, making connections with the powerful elite and hosting and attending many luxurious parties, balls and galas. She is almost universally liked by those she chooses to be her friends. Many wonder how such an enjoyable lady could oversee so much of what goes on at Dominus, but that's all part of Cordia's mask.

Main Race:
Dominus, Inc. is a proud supporter of affirmative action. Director Cordia Tsao is Han Chinese, however she was raised dually in China and the United States of America.

Main Religion:
Dominus, Inc. does not discriminate based on hiring people of different faiths and will accept clients of all faiths and denominations. Director Cordia Tsao identifies as atheist.

@Odysseus

I like it, is it still WIP or is it complete?

Alright. The United Kingdom, Ireland, and all British overseas territories (including the Channel Islands and such) are hereby claimed. Tack on Newfoundland, Cyprus and Iceland as well.

@The Nexerus

Just a recommendation, would it be ok if you also claim Normandy and Brittany, I don't think anyone is going to claim France, and I don't want a giant area in Europe not being controlled by anyone.

Age of Rebirth (Post WW3)

<Snipped quote by Durandal>Bolded are either partial or full territory claims.
The italicized parts are things that would be an issue with Neo Hungarica around.
Besides, why France and Great Britain aren't claimed in this?
What about Spain and/or Portugal?
Scandinavian regions?

Because yeah, as things currently stand there are indeed considerable clashes between these two nations.
I thought we can quickly talk it over through the OOC but given the above, it might be indeed better if we continue this in PMs.

@Willy Vereb

Yeah, I agree.

Was interested in joining as a sort of Greater Australia until I saw that Australia and New Zealand have apparently been awkwardly cut in half by the Chinese. Perhaps Britain, including her overseas territories and Ireland?

@The Nexerus

Im ok with that.