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That is because most RP's I have ever been in do not write full blown character sheets for every single NPC even if they're relatively important. Usually the context gives what you need as far as importance goes. On both sides notable NPC's have gotten pictures and more detailed descriptions, for example.

I didn't ask, and nothing in your bio indicated this, as well as nothing you previously wrote in the RP for your character. Maybe I should have, but you could have mentioned you wanted a different character when I first had her show up, or if you had any concerns when I was talking with you over PM's. I'm also honestly concerned about him being unable to interact with any notably supernatural characters if this is how you will play him.

... Also Superman is gone and I'm quite frankly not pleased with having accepted him in the first place, but if he did include planet-busting then I wouldn't have accepted him at any point and I wish I hadn't.


It's listed in the bio that he was attacked by demons. Magic's obviously a turnoff.

Also it's not that Guts will instantly kill wizards and magical things. His best friends include a witch and a fairy. The problem is a wizard showing up, shooting fire all at him, and saying "Hey we have been tracking you." That would be a red alert to even a normal person; Guts has spent several years fighting monsters nonstop.

I think the best way to go about this is to maybe restart the encounter, albeit with a different NPC.
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Superman is listed in his Character sheet as being so physically strong he's "able to destroy small planets". You're telling me that's allowed, but an antimagic weapon isn't?


While I'm at it, Dlanor has a weapon that can't be blocked and can instantly destroy anything she doesn't believe in; Cinderfall can destroy anything she wants, Kiba is capable of dodging bullets and punching with the force of a tank shell and can shoot ki blasts, Takahara has an arbitrary number of reinforcements, Misaka has a gun that can't miss and an automatic material rifle, and Kakine can make dark matter at will, which ignores the laws of physics.

In the face of powers like these, I feel like an antimagic melee weapon isn't a ridiculous concept.
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It's the other way around: it stops effects that exploit specific weaknesses in a setting from applying universally, without unduly affecting the people using the magic. Being able to cut through anything and everything remotely magical because of a quirk in the definition of an enchanted item in Berserk is horrendously powerful--especially when it comes to destroying items that are literally irreplaceable.

Plus we still have no idea what the deal with the hammer actually is, other than 'is hammer, magic is involved'.


Superman is listed in his Character sheet as being so physically strong he's "able to destroy small planets". You're telling me that's allowed, but an antimagic weapon isn't?
It's less that magic works the same everywhere and more that it has the same effects everywhere. If it worked the same everywhere there would be absolutely no way to reconcile all the various systems for using it.

IncredibleBee, Just as, say... Magic from let's say Lord of the Rings has nothing to do with the Warp from Warhammer 40k, magic from any other universe has nothing to do with the Astral Realm from Berserk.

If your explanation made more sense(blanket antimagic not concentrated on a plane of existence from a specific setting, for example), then I would understand. Even still that would run more on being able to cut her flames then through her weapon but it would be an edge if you seriously want to fight her.

My issues with what you've been doing have been that you've repeatedly avoided any attempts to get you into the RP and attempted to instant-kill a non-faceless mook NPC.

At this point I'm getting kind of frustrated because I did discuss sending NPC's with you to get you involved in things and you didn't at all mention that I had to completely avoid certain types of characters.


I thought it was obvious that you'd need to be choosy when sending someone to greet Guts more than basically anyone else, more so when he pulled out the death threats. At the very least, I'd thought you'd read up. I don't recall you asking if it was a good idea to send a specific type of character, either.

Also, I instagibbed her like a faceless mook NPC because she kind of is one. No character sheet, and no real details. She doesn't even have a name.
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You're still assuming that all magical things work the same way across all universes.


If it didn't, wouldn't literally every magical character be useless outside their home dimension?
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I don't follow the logic. Where did I say, anywhere, about magical materials? If we take a hunk of iron, and do magic to make the iron impervious to damage, cutting on a different plane of existence won't help.


Actually The Dragonslayer could cut that too. You see, the antimagic nature of the sword would slice through the enchantment when it hits while simultaneously cutting the iron itself. It's a two-fold attack.
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What I'm saying is that you're not going to automatically succeed at cutting through a magical item. If the 'magical' part is something like 'nigh invincible', then it doesn't matter if you can cut something that isn't even physical.


Actually it does matter because the Dragonslayer cuts physical and magical materials simultaneously, by virtue of being a physical weapon imbued with astral properties.
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Your fundamental, and fundamentally flawed, assumption is that because magic = astral (and thus 99% likely to be described as demonic because this is Berserk and the world hates you; when most of what's there seems to be 'Apostles' it fits) in the original setting, all magic that shall ever show up in the RP works on the exact same rules. Not to mention that 'can cut purely magical/astral things' is not anti-magic. Anti-magic is cancelling it. That means, following simple logic, that just because you could cut something, doesn't mean you have cut something.


So what you're saying is I have to cut through magic by cutting it? Which is what I was doing anyways.
Guts is a mercenary, right? How would he fit in with Shocker+? I can send something with SCIENCE to pick him up if you want, @IncredibleBee.


Guts is a former mercenary, and doesn't really work as a sellsword anymore. I could see him temporarily allying with a group if they had a mutual goal or could at least give him a lift somewhere else.
I don't see him as someone who'd refuse a good offer, but you also gotta be really wary if a deal seems too good to be true, you know?

Plus there's the whole, "Eternally hunted by monsters wish to drag his soul away, also being hunted by a paladin order, also his greatest enemy is the Antichrist" thing going on. Any straight offer would be fishy.

On the other hand, he's in a rather odd situation, and with little money, selling out may be his only option.

In short, I could see him working freelance as a mercenary in exchange for supplies and transportation from Earth to Earth until he finds home.
As I said last night: the Dragonslayer is not antimagic. It does not automatically negate anything magical that it happens to come near. Even if its anti-demonic features and astral existence would help, that doesn't inherently mean it goes through an unknown enchanted substance like it's butter. FFS, for all you know, the staff simply has a shear strength beyond how it looks.


Except it's totally antimagic, and I can provide several examples of it cutting through magic and even hurting entirely ethereal beings.

As I said earlier, magic in the Berserk-verse isn't divided into subcategories of "demonic" and so-on. The Dragonslayer doesn't strictly affect demons, because demons in the normal sense aren't even a thing in the Berserk-verse. Either it comes from the astral realm or it doesn't.
And if we want to get really, really technical on how the Dragonslayer works, allow me to explain: it's soaked up so much magical blood it's starting to simultaneously exist in the normal and astral planes, essentially making it more real than anything else.

Also, it was never specified what material specifically the hammer was made of, so naturally I assumed steel or some similar alloy. The shaft is rather thin in the first place, and Guts can cleave through some seriously strong stuff with even just a normal sword.
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