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Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

Yes, the victim-shaming trend is becoming rather strong.

Am I doing this right?

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

>start civil discussion
>people that disagree with the thread's premise come in and immediately start being hostile
>"Come on guys, keep it civil."

This is now three-for-three on this chain of events.

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

Everyone likes me, they just pretend they don't sometimes.

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

@ArenaSnow If that's your only point it doesn't really matter. lmao

"This man shouldn't be given this position because I don't like him."

Stellar.

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@ArenaSnow You're the one who isn't sure, what makes you think you're qualified to analyze whether or not I get the role? As well, what makes you think I haven't discussed this with Hank in the past in more depth? This was clearly just a reminder and frankly he's the only one I have to prove myself to. Certainly not you, who doesn't even use the Discord at all. I wouldn't be beholden to you even if I was given the chat moderator position. You're trying to vote in another country's election right now, m8.

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@ArenaSnow You don't have to be sure. I have a good feeling you aren't sure of many things, so your opinion on things you aren't sure about seems kinda irrelevant to me and the discussion at large.

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

@ArenaSnow Spend some time in the politics channel on the official Discord and see why most people wouldn't wanna handle that.

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@MelonHead So you want someone who has no knowledge or experience with the shortcomings of the Guild to try and explain the shortcomings of the Guild? For all your talk of bias you are yet to acknowledge your own. You are influenced by your own bias of "well none of this has happened to me so it mustn't be a real problem." You have motivations as well. And frankly your contributions to this thread can truly be boiled down to: "you guys are just crybabies." Your assertion that we haven't cooperated and worked with the mods before is also pretty wrong. This isn't the first dialogue, this probably won't be the last. You're literally inserting yourself into a conversation you have no knowledge about and making a stake based on your own biases while making the entirety of your comments being about the bias of other people.

"Nothing bad has happened to me, therefore we should ignore the bad things that have happened to a minority of people just because they are in the minority. Clearly this can't possibly happen to anyone else."

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but from a point of view you don't have access to there have been changes.

Again you don't have access to that point of view, but I do,

It's possible there's more to this story than most people, including yourself, know.

@Ruby What is the point of making statements like these? This is an observation of the obvious. He knows he doesn't have the perspective you have, it doesn't need to be reminded if you aren't going to elaborate to actually explain what is going on from your perspective. Simply commenting on the difference in perspective is like acknowledging a lack of transparency and then continuing to not be transparent. Obviously in Kangaroo's case if there is personal details related to why he left in the first place that shouldn't be shared, but the details of why he was brought back on couldn't be particularly exposing. None of the things you made these comments about seem to be subjects that you can't explain. Maybe Odin would get off your back if things were actually explained instead of just acknowledged to exist.

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@MelonHead Personal gripes are a perfectly valid reason to voice complaints of how things are run. Just because something negative doesn't affect you doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all. Questioning the motives of people is just fine, but assuming the worst of them with no proof beforehand is plainly foolish. You immediately assumed Odin was trying to morally crusade to make himself look better when he had done nothing to indicate that was his goal. You immediately assumed Nyt hated this site when he also had gave no indication of this. You even said some shit about misdemeanors or whatever as if that would invalidate someone's opinion just because they had been banned before. I was banned before for literally no reason other than Mahz being upset with me despite not breaking any rules. Is my opinion invalidated? Or here's a better question: wouldn't my experience be a good example of how there are problems on the Guild?

It just seems to me at this point that your only investment in this thread is to decry the people posting in it.