MelonHead

Running and Gunning - Higan Vs. The Magna Pater

I would still like an outsiders opinion if the damage I took was fair for future reference, the more I look at the actual physics of Chobham armour the more convinced I am the rock would have done nothing. The weight of the rock is insignificant compared to the sheer density of the metal it collided with.

@Drifting Pollen If you're not too busy and have any interest in this sort of thing, would you mind giving it an appraisal? Also, I'd rather have this decided fairly rather than Doc feeling like I owe him a favour for his benevolence.

Running and Gunning - Higan Vs. The Magna Pater

Well you didn't really specify much of anything, your character just grabbed a big rock and slammed it down on top of the Mech. As you can see in the picture though, the rock would slam into the upper lens first, absorbing most of the shock, as the rock would essentially break on contact with the metal. If anything was going to break, it would be that upper lens.

You also have to look at the exact composition of the Mech's armour, which I hadn't bothered to mention up until now because I forgot all the nifty MBT research I did before making this character. Its armour is made up of titanium and depleted uranium with aluminium tiles worked in, it's based off Chobham armour, which is specifically designed to reduce the effect of kinetic impacts by displacing the energy over tiles. It's easy to imagine the Mech as just a big suit of armour with a man inside representing the internals, but it's not. The armour is incredibly advanced and designed to stop penetration from anti-tank rounds, even the Optics armour has incredibly high resistance. Any impact which is caught by the armour should have limited effectiveness, that's how the Mech is designed. No matter how strong your character may be, you would not expect it to penetrate the front of a tiger tank with a rock, and that's exactly what it tried to do. The only question is what shock would transfer through the armour, which considering its composition I believe would be minimal, and considering the Optics are designed for use in a vehicle that is used in warfare (and therefore expected to be affected by shocks, such as anti-tank rounds colliding with the Mech) I found it highly unlikely the Lens would shatter from an indirect attack.

Also, Innue has pneumonia so we might have to ask Pollen to have a look if we want a prompt decision.

Running and Gunning - Higan Vs. The Magna Pater

The damage to the right side was based off the Mech's optics in the reference picture. I believed slamming a large block of basalt (I believe you said as big as someone's head) down on top of the Optics shown would damage the protruding lens because it's higher up and has less protection. That was my effort at conciliation, because I personally doubted the lens could be damaged at all by blunt force from above, but I could just about justify that damage logically.

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@MelonHead

As amazing as my fists may be they cannot punch 15 days into the past.

@Starfall

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@Melonhead

Sorry for not getting to looking over that fight yet. I apparently have a form of pneumonia that started kicking my ass again last afternoon. I've been running on 2 hours of sleep from coughing the entire night for the last few days.

@Innue

That's fine, pneumonia should probably be your first concern.

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@MelonHead

Hello, so when do we get to punch people?

@Starfall

Whenever the fancy takes you.

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Do we get to initiate him?

*Is holding a carton of milk and a bag of feathers.*

@Dazsos

Shh, we lull them into a false sense of security -then- we haze them.

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(Edit: also we didn't barge In talking about freaking amazing we are. We let the fists talk for us.)

@Enki

That probably wouldn't have been an issue, considering the community thrives on banter and silly arguments. However, just stopping in to say Hi would have been more than sufficient to join the community, not to mention the bare minimum requirement to join any community really. Not stopping in at all however I assumed you and your group were just dropping in for Gun's tournament and heading off, which is fine and completely up to you, but you can't really accuse RPG of excluding new groups for that reason.

Regardless, while everyone is here, hello Starfall, Divinity and Enki, welcome back Darth (Do bad guys still wear black?) and hello 13 Critics, you might want to post the question to the FAQ section, or look around and see if it's been asked before.

MelonHead, away -

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I didn't think what I said was terrible in any form to see such a defense.

@Enki

Perhaps you should be a little more careful with your wording, what you said could easily be construed as an accusation of elitism. If it was just well meaning advice it would perhaps have been better to look around a little, where you would find the Arena community has always been accepting of new groups. Hell, it was invaded just over a month ago and the response was excellent despite quite significant (albeit RP-driven) dickwaving and banter from the new people, unfortunately the invaders all disappeared as is often the case with new people, but it was still fun.

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I routinely go missing for months or years at a time from Guild, so I'll take your word for it.

That being said, new people should always be considered a boon for a fighting community. More people, more matches.

@Darth

Yeah I know. We've always had pretty inclusive policies for new people, provided they show any interest in actually joining the community, but there's not much you can do if people aren't interested in talking with us, we're not going to force people to join.

Also, a lot of the people who do come in and ask questions tend to then disappear unfortunately.