whizzball1

Myriad Reality

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I believe they are battling at this moment.

@Host

-Soren- Huh. Well, I definitely can't telepathically contact her now. That would be so distracting. Do you have any idea where they are?

Myriad Reality

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-Soren- *chuckles*

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-Maddie- Hmmph! *watches closely, ready to defend either side against killing blows*

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-Soren- *grins* When someone like me is around, crazy coincidences aren't quite so rare.

@whizzball1

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Logically, you only have the ability to distort the reality around you, and perhaps extend that. However, you do not have the ability to change reality in such a way to cause events that have already passed happen to fall under coincidences that wouldn't have arisen originally.

@Host

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-Soren- No, not what already happened, but what may yet happen. Around the Lords of Chaos, "That wouldn't happen in a million years" becomes a pretty moot statement. I haven't had one just yet, but it's only a matter of time.

@whizzball1

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Illogical premises cannot occur, regardless of the influence they are under, if they conflict with established reality.

@Host

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-Soren- *grins* A coincidence doesn't conflict with established reality. It's just unlikely, like you said. That's one of our biggest passive influences--what was once unlikely becomes more likely than much.

@whizzball1

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That is not how probability behaves in reality. You simply argue Schrodinger's Cat theory, and that it manipulates the chances of the cat's survival as time progresses. But looking deeper into it, you would see that improving chances of coincidences is equal to manipulation of the entirety of a universe, or even Existence itself. Cause and Effect cannot be violated.

@Host

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-Soren- I would explain it further, but I don't think it's too important right now. Let's just see if we can find Genos's alternate and White, so when their game is over, we can ask.

@whizzball1

Myriad Reality

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When he gave the computer file analogy. That.

@Host

He gave a computer file analogy?

Myriad Reality

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Then that invalidates Soren's claim.

@Host

"When someone like me is around, crazy coincidences aren't quite so rare."
" 'That wouldn't happen in a million years' becomes a pretty moot statement." (Unless, as you said, a coincidence can't occur because something vital to it never happened in the first place, or other things like that.)
"... what was once unlikely becomes more likely than much." This is more vague, though, and doesn't quite illustrate what he's trying to say.

Myriad Reality

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That is not how probability behaves in reality. You simply argue Schrodinger's Cat theory, and that it manipulates the chances of the cat's survival as time progresses. But looking deeper into it, you would see that improving chances of coincidences is equal to manipulation of the entirety of a universe, or even Existence itself. Cause and Effect cannot be violated.

@Host

-Soren- I would explain it further, but I don't think it's too important right now. Let's just see if we can find Genos's alternate and White, so when their game is over, we can ask.

Myriad Reality

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But that could only logically apply to shallow events, and not those that are effected by past events or planning.

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No big deal.

@Nimda

Well, I never said it affects anything very deeply. =P It's just an aura of ambient chaos that affects the now--only the current events of something previously planned can be affected. It's all in the present (and by extension the relatively near future).

Myriad Reality

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But events that have been set up in the past, such as not storing necessary data files on random pages. Chaos would have to be an omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent entity. Besides, wouldn't increasing chances contradict the definition of chaos? Chaos is the Second Law of Thermodynamics, disorder, and breaking down. Increasing odds of something unlikely to occur would appear to be more of an orderly ability.

@Nimda

And here lies the influence of harmonic (EDIT: That moment when harmoinc) chaos. All my Lords of Chaos, despite being unable to use harmonic chaos (other than Soren and Svár) have ambient harmonic chaos about them. Harmonic chaos is all about chaos in a bit more logical manner--for example, flipping the likeliness of events. And something like what you mentioned may not be affected by the ambient magic, but other things could still be--like happening to meet someone who knows something you need, or certain random events changing in such a way that they coincide with each other.

Like, for example, you may be playing a dance game, and a misthrown ball may fly towards you, causing you to dodge in such a way that you hit the right buttons where you may have not hit them before. Several factors could have been influenced here, like the misthrowing of the ball or your dodging reflexes.

Myriad Reality

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Or your could not say anything, since Tempo's not necessarily correct. But if that explanation is used, that means that his chaos knows and manipulates the Butterfly Effect, pushing everything in Existence to where it needs to be in order to cause an outcome to be more likely. It also opens every closed system in the world.

@Host

If I use that explanation, it rather means that the chaos is influencing close causes. Just like you can talk to someone to change their thought processes or adjust a gun to make it more likely to backfire, the chaos would push people and/or events as a cause in its own right.

Myriad Reality

It's going to take me forever to come up with an explanation for the whole probability thing now >:[ Then again, I could also say that the ambient chaos is manipulating the causes to make an unlikely end more likely. Huh. That's actually perfect.

bed, ned

Myriad Reality

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Illogical premises cannot occur, regardless of the influence they are under, if they conflict with established reality.

@Host

-Soren- *grins* A coincidence doesn't conflict with established reality. It's just unlikely, like you said. That's one of our biggest passive influences--what was once unlikely becomes more likely than much.