Witch Cat

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@Witch Cat BUt that's what makes a vampire. There are certain traits that are there to be vampires. The genetics thing just seems really restrictive as well as is very awkward in the current state of the world. The idea that there are hundreds of people who are carrier vampires is odd.

@jasonwolf

That's why I tied it to the Lilith story. She wants to destroy Adam's children, and spread her own. So she tries, and it's not like every person has a recessive vampire trait. In some families, the trait is never passed on and just dies out. And I don't see how it's restrictive, with the huge possibilities for mutations, the choices seem limitless.

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Well we have killing down entirely. holy weapons, stakes in the heart, (basically all the classic things), Eviscerating the body (decapitation then chopping up the body is just to much anything that is just silly to regenerate from), and magic imbued weapons.

1. I think we can all agree it should be spread from vampire to a person they bite. We have to decide if they die then or they die later.

2. I feel like the whole minion thing would be better to a type of vampire (if we go with science stuff. Pheromones are how.)

4. I would go with disease strains. I can't really find an outside trait that makes sense really.

5. I want to say because vampires don't have the blood they need to keep going. Blood has almost no use besides being blood. If it was to feed they'd mostly be drinking water.

6. I think in the end we should just go with sterile. In any version that function of the body is just scrapped.

@jasonwolf

#5 would make Atlas' need for blood completely useless so he'd have to go and re-write like 5 gigantic posts, and for #6 I think making a vampire sterile wouldn't make much sense. Infertility in men is caused by low-sperm count, and if we want to show our vampires as these hyped up super-humans who can heal a lost limb, it wouldn't make sense to have them have to face such problems that could be easily fixed by their powers.

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@jasonwolf science more like STUPID. speaking of jobs my wannabe screenwriting is really affecting my IC posts, if you couldnt tell already

@AdobeFlash

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I think we should take a vote for either @Witch Cat or @jasonwolf 's ideas. I personally vote for the disease one because i believe it has more potential.

@AdobeFlash

It's like a democratic vote!
Trump VS. Hillary!
Witch Cat VS. @jasonwolf!

Also about the more potential thing, I mean yah, it does have a flasher explanation. But I think genetics would allow more space and freedom to tweak powers, so not everyone has to conform to a set of unchangeable powers.

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Ok. So, things I want to get an official answer on are:

1. How does one become a vampire?
2. How does a vampire make a minion?
3. How do you destroy a vampire or a minion?
4. Why are there different types of vampires or different powers?
5. Why do vampires drink blood?
6. Can a vampire make a living baby or a half-breed (please god no lol)?

@Wraithblade6

Here are just the answers that correspond to my idea of vampirism.

1. You are birthed as one. If you get the traits of a vampire or not depends if the vampire trait within your gene is dominant or recessive.

2. Simple, all a vampire needs to do is kill a living being with a bite. And boom, you got a vampire minion. Or a Thrrrrrraaaaaallllll

3. Depends on how powerful they are. Attacks to the chest or heart deliver more of a punch. Decapitation is a 100% effective. Shock, trauma, stab wounds, etc. Sure vampires have a healing factor, but it won't last them forever. Sometimes making them go mad over bloodlust can kill them.

4. Basically to allow us and other players more freedom and space to tweak abilities or origins if they aren't happy with the standard power set, or story.

5. All blood is infused with magic. Many beings categorized as "undead" run on magic to remain alive. Stuff like zombies need to feed constantly to remain alive. Vampires, and other beings that are near death, require blood also to remain alive. But some vampires are psychopathic sadists who like killing also.

6. Yes, but a vampire with an active vampire trait will most likely not as they soon will have just lost interest in sex. But not all, some do keep their libido intact. And non-vampiric people can carry the gene for vamprisim, and yet not be affected by it, think of it like colour-blindness. You either are colour-blind/a vampire, or you're not. There is no inbetween.

Hope this helped!

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@AdobeFlash But blood doesn't provide like anything. It's some iron and water and other generic bits for life. I think having limited blood and almost no ability to make blood makes blood specifically usefu.

@jasonwolf

I think here is a good point to put in a little magic. We could say the blood of a supernatural being is infused with magic, giving it special traits. And that's why many potions call for blood of this, or that. Magic flows in and through everything. Wouldn't hurt to use magic to explain away a few problems.

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So, this is turning into one huge mess. Ugh so many posts! Anyway, @Wraithblade6's idea of vampirism is a more simple and traditional, keeping the whole theme of magic. @jasonwolf describes it as a disease, a cancer, more focus on the fact magic is science. And I see it as a mix of both. A little 9th grade biology, and a demon thrown in for good measure. All good ideas, so which do we pick?

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@Witch Cat Ok. So a thrall would be a vampire that was basically killed? So, if a vampire dies, they could be raised again as a slave to their master/maker?

@Wraithblade6

Yes, you're getting there! And I guess you use thrall instead of vampire minion. Sounds fancier. Thrrrrrrraaaaallllll. Anyway, yah, you're getting there! Any living thing killed by a vampire in fact can be turned into a thrall. But only if the target is killed by the vampire's fangs.

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@Witch Cat eh... changing the dna of every single cell in a body is a bit complicated. Every cell has to change EXACTLY the same, at the same sequence, same code, etc. I think we should go with disease. If you want to explain thralls, make it so that the body has to physically die, or maybe consume a certain amount of vampire blood, or get infected a certain number of times in order to go full vampire.

@Wraithblade6

Yes, but like, vampirism is tainted with magic. It all did stem from a powerful demon. Magic can do alot of things, transfiguration is one of them. So, I don't think it's outlandish to say vampire blood can transform every cell. And who knows? There can be hiccups that lead to mutations! Room for more tweaking!

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@Witch Cat Thanks for the effort, but I really don't like it. First, i feel like making this legend about Lilith is misogynistic. You could probably equally develop a myth starting from Kain. Secondly, how can you have "alive" vampires? You can't make life if you are dead... then you also get the problems with half breeds and quarter breeds, and eventually vampires get bred into non-existence. Lastly, it's just not right to be both immortal AND be able to have a family. That causes population problems.... and I don't like having two specific kinds of vampires either. :P

But that's just my opinion.

@Wraithblade6

Guess I'll explain a few points. The Lilith myth is an actual myth, so no changing that. And vampires are technically alive. They are alive but appear dead. However, vampire minions are dead, and appear dead. The only thing keeping them alive is magic. Magic is their new blood, and thus preventing stuff like rigirmotis, and the loss of hunger, etc. And not every member of a vampire lineage will be a vampire. Think of vampirism as colour-blindness. People can carry the gene for colour blindness, but aren't affected by it. And if a vampire becomes a problem, they can be killed. They are immortal, not invincible. Vampires can be raised from the dead though, but they will just be a vampire minion and not their original self.