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@Rune_Alchemist Well... um... Okay! I mean, catching as many as possible is the idea in the game, but you're obviously free to roleplay as you like! ... So THAT'S why you wanted that wish-list, because unless you meet the Pokémon you really want, you'll be stuck with what you currently have, huh? Because you can't catch what you're half-hearted about... ... ... Hah.

Having the Pokémon in the PC is never once treated as a bad thing in the games, and as such it will not be in this roleplay either. I'd just like to point that out.

@Pikmin Eye Exploded? I don't know about exploded, one of us just had an opinion. XD

In any case, yupp, you have the right idea.

@Keyblade87 Alright! I'll give you another day, then! Though, if it's not up when this post hits "1 Day Ago", I'll just go ahead~
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In the previous run of this RP I had a brutal fight between my Budew and a bloodthirsty Magikarp. It was in a 3v3 and the Magikarp ended up knocking out one pokemon and forcing my Budew to knock both itself and the Magikarp out. I'll have you note that I did end up winning that fight.
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@Rune_Alchemist Well... um... Okay! I mean, catching as many as possible is the idea in the game, but you're obviously free to roleplay as you like! ... So THAT'S why you wanted that wish-list, because unless you meet the Pokémon you really want, you'll be stuck with what you currently have, huh? Because you can't catch what you're half-hearted about... ... ... Hah.

Having the Pokémon in the PC is never once treated as a bad thing in the games, and as such it will not be in this roleplay either. I'd just like to point that out.


I mean, it might not be publicly treated as a bad thing, but that isn't likely to stop some people from perceiving it as...perhaps not bad, but questionable. Claire's certainly not going to like it regardless of how it's viewed by the majority of people.

And I mean, it seems to me something that Team Virtue might find bad or questionable at least considering their own motives. Why keep seven hundred or so pokemon in a PC/being taken care of by the professor if you're never going to use them? No one person has that much time on their hands to be able to do that. There's not enough time in the world to properly train that many pokemon.

But yes. That's why I like the list. Because unlike the last RP, Lynn who would have just caught every pokemon she came across for money and just for giggles regardless of what it was and use it, Claire's only going to catch pokemon she's 100% certain she likes. I've come up with a list of about twenty seven she'll like using. Aside from those, though, she's not going to catch any unless she's being forced to, to overcome some challenge...and then she'll probably release them/give them to someone else later.

And she'll feel terrible about it. Like, really depressed. Probably won't leave wherever she's staying for a few days. Is that you know, nice? Probably not, but Claire's a bit selfish and would only use/do things she likes.

But we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Character development, ho~

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Ahahaha, thanks xD

I understand that this is more about story than realism and stuff. I get that, I do. that's why this really isn't a big deal for me, I just wanted to state my opinion because I have an opinion and everyone must hear it!~

More seriously, it's just offending my world building senses a bit, but that's fine too. It's not my world, not everything has to make logical sense to me. For example, in my opinion the system is set up is set up for trainers to research gym leaders teams, get pokemon perfectly designed to counter them, and then never use them again once they beat them. It just seems like to me, it promotes 'thinking of pokemon like tools.' You have to think of not only the player characters when building the world, but also how things would affect the NPCs and other random people of the world.

and pfft. Claire's gonna punch Ren if she does that to her. Like, seriously, just BAM, punched right in the face after using teleport to get right next to her xD

I think having these two starting out having a pokemon battle and then having it devolve into a fistfight would be hilarious xD
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@Keyblade87 ... That... was it? You know, I did say that if there was nothing then you didn't need to- OH WELL ONTO POSTING XD

I'm aware of your situation, so the post length is okay. It's just that I said that you didn't need to post unless, well, you had reasons to, which I suppose you had, er... EH! IT'S BEHIND US, NOW! XD

@Rune_Alchemist Nope. Nobody in Team Virtue has any problem with that. That's something that I decided, that the having Pokémon in the PC thing is something that NO NPC IN THE ENTIRE WORLD HAS A PROBLEM WITH, because otherwise the whole "catch them all" motto would be cast shadows on. It wouldn't do to discourage young kids from doing so. Team Virtue was simply protecting rare wild Pokémon from being captured for profit. ... Then they went a little bit more extreme than that, and true, if you had particularly rare Pokémon in your PC then they'd likely want you to let those go, but NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THE PC, BUT BECAUSE YOU HAD THEM AT ALL. No problem that has anything to do with the PC. Nobody would find it weird to keep Pokémon in the PC for any amount of time.

And maybe most importantly, no Pokémon is offended by this, either. To them, it's extremely natural, somehow, and not something that there is any reason to feel any negative emotions over. Well... Alright, they may still be disappointed to leave the team or jealous of the Pokémon they're being placed in for or natural feelings like that, BUT. There are no negative feelings associated with being stored on the PC for any Pokémon.

Of course, you're obviously free to think as you like, I'm just telling the world's perspective on that. I also look forward to seeing how you'll deal with this. Teh-heh.

Anyways.

Everyone. The post is up. Now let's see what you think of this. You can probably have a short answer if you don't have reason or desire to extend it, you're really only asked one question. Haha.
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Gotta be 100% honest. And I mean no offense with this but, it seems like both of the teams are nothing more than your generic copy-paste bad guys with team Amethyst and some...sorta pseudo police force that seems in my opinion not even needed.

Eh...we'll see how it goes but at the moment, I am less than thrilled about this development of how things work within this world.

Seems kinda...standard and boring.

Plus, if no one else, not even a small minority that thinks that way or some small truth to those words then there's no logical reason for Claire to believe that as well, especially if the pokemon themselves feel nothing negative about this (which I feel is a bit much. You say they could experience jealousy, but pokemon are just as varied as humans in terms of personality. There are probably quite a few out there that would feel rather negatively about being left in a PC box/with a professor and never used). I dunno, just seems less feasible for Claire to have these personality traits given the setting, and it's less compelling for her character.

...although, it could be interesting if she is the first to think that way and then later becomes the leader of some Team similar to Plasma, but not some organization led by some power hungry insane guy. Heh...hehe. But well, still less compelling of a motive since their mission statement would hold no actual fact if its just a given that pokemon being in a PC box is just a given and none of them even hate or dislike it.

But well, carry on. My opinions have no hold on the grand scheme of things xD
I will think on things, but as it is I may end up changing Claire slightly to better suit the setting.
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@Rune_Alchemist A Pokemon battle turned fistfight?

PLEASE can we do that at one point XD

I mean I suppose the PC boxes would be constructed to basically be like a Pokemon playground. I always imagined there was some kind of simulation inside the boxes which the Pokemon could just sorta enjoy and have fun in :P Though I will admit it would be a bit disheartening to be caught and then just never see the light of day again.

Dang, real world morality really does clash with Pokemons, huh? XD
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Pokemon Black and Blue

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@Rune_Alchemist A Pokemon battle turned fistfight?

PLEASE can we do that at one point XD


It's decided. This must happen. Don't care with who, but I would love to see it happen with Ren and Claire. Granted, Claire's at a bit of an advantage since she's well, as Ren so eloquently put it 'Workout Girl' xD

But yeeeah - it does tend to clash with pokemon a lot. To be honest, the simulation thing is quite nice. But then you get into stuff like, is it ethical to keep them in a simulation like that for the rest of...eternity or something. I'm not gonna get into it, though since that's not what anyone is here for xD

Though, as a fan of everything having a 'gray' morality when it can't really be argued one is good and the other is not, if everything is just black and white and obviously 'they're the bad guys' and 'they're not' or 'this is good' and 'this is bad' its gonna be a huge blow to the amount of fun I can have with this.
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We all know the fastest way to introduce gray mortality is to murder a bad guy and all his Pokemon.
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@Pink Madness Awww. Teh-heh. A Vulpix petting a Rhyperior... XD

That's adorable. Though, yeah, you didn't post about Donna's answer to the question, should I assume you're waiting to later for that? Eh, anyway. Nicely posted~

@Eklispe Yupp. Confidence is nice. And this post answers all that was asked of it. Nicely posted~

@Pikmin Eye Teh-heh. He was spewing trash, huh? Probably. XD

Looks like a considerable amount of people are interested in Route 2. Teh-heh. That's completely fine. Anyways. Nicely posted. Answered all that we needed and some more. Haha.

@Rune_Alchemist The thing with the PC was a solution I came up with in order to avoid ethical problems with one of the core aspects of the Pokémon universe. If people around start seeing that as a bad thing, then the player characters WILL be the bad guys, because in any other universe that'd be a bad thing, and I want to avoid that. Grey morality can be fine, buuuut... In this matter the Pokémon Trainers would be obviously in the wrong! XD

But, well. Just because nobody has ever thought about it, doesn't mean they won't react should you bring attention to it. That's all I'll say on the matter.

I quite like @Delta44's thought on the matter. It could be a playground where they could enjoy themselves in the boxes or something. In addition, you ARE doing this in order to research the Pokémon of Isson, so maybe they'll get to hang around in the lab as well and such. I'd also like to point to Professor Kalmia's Quirks/Talents/Aspirations/Other field, which proves someone has at least minutely thought about the matter, even if they decided it isn't an ethical problem.

Yes, as Delta says, it's because real world morality clashes with Pokémon morality.

@Eklispe Ah... Um... Er... I'm, uh, not going to STOP you from colouring this world as you please, but, um... Is that the kind of Pokémon universe you want? XD
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Isn't red a nice color though? Especially in puddles...

Dang that was creepy. Rainbows are nice too ^.^
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WHY IS THERE NO "QUIVERING IN FEAR" BUTTON!?

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@Rune_Alchemist The thing with the PC was a solution I came up with in order to avoid ethical problems with one of the core aspects of the Pokémon universe. If people around start seeing that as a bad thing, then the player characters WILL be the bad guys, because in any other universe that'd be a bad thing, and I want to avoid that. Grey morality can be fine, buuuut... In this matter the Pokémon Trainers would be obviously in the wrong! XD


I'd like to point out they wouldn't inherently be the bad guys unless they were abusing their pokemon. That's the thing with gray/real world morality. It can be argued as both something that could be good, or wrong. It just depends on which side you sympathized with more. It'd be better to not have any blanket statements saying 'this is absolute' and instead leave it vague, and up to each individuals characters interpretation.

Obviously, in the pokemon world its something that's been happening for a long time. It's accepted as fact by the people, therefore obviously no one is going to think about it too much so you don't really even have to worry about this a whole lot in the first place except maybe by a handful of people who think otherwise.

But, as you said, if all pokemon fundamentally don't mind being in PC boxes than anyone who thinks that they do are inherently wrong, as it would go against the natural order of this world. Which is silly from a narrative/story standpoint if someone believes that because that just makes them seem like they're evil/contradictory for the sake of evil or contradiction. Which doesn't make for a compelling character or organization.

but eh, enough of that.

Aside from me having a to make a few changes to Claire's personality - and maybe Ralia's (Because as she is, she probably would hate being shoved in a PC box) it doesn't really matter too much.




I'll try to get a post up with Claire soon...dunno what she'd do here. She doesn't like that Jacques is being an 'arrogant sleazeball', and would take him up on the challenge...but route 2, man. She wants to get this journey started xD

I'll try to have a post up soon.
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@PlatinumSkink She just don't know what to answer to it...
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@Lasrever Nicely posted. I do apologize for making use of you trying to get in, but being unable to, but were able to come in anyway due to last minute replacement. However, I do believe this works out excellently. Teh-heh.

And just in case anyone wonders and that I'm worried about it, there's a reasonable explanation to why he knows. In any case. I look forward to future developments~

@Rune_Alchemist *stares at mental list of things he could continue the discussion about*

… Yes, enough about that! XD … Yupp, I look forward to seeing what you'll do. Teh-heh.

@Pink Madness It's a simple ”yes-or-no” question. Want to have a battle with Jacques' trainers? But alright, it's completely fine to hesitate. We'll see what the rest says in the meantime~
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@PlatinumSkink Alright I editted my post
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Well, I finally got a post out...meh.

That was more difficult than it should have been xD
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@Pink Madness Oh, alright. Okay, that works! XD

Do foxes wave their tails? … EH! THIS ONE DOES! XD

Thank you very much, nicely posted~

@Pyromaniacwolf Teh-heh, that's the reaction I expected. Yupp. I'm excited. Nicely posted~

@Rune_Alchemist Don't worry about it, the post is excellent and totally makes sense. After all, if you've decided to go together, it'd be a hassle if one wants to stay and one wants to go~! XD

Yupp. You've made your move, and it is sensible. Now, we'll see what Erika says. Haha. Nicely posted~

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@Delta44@Pirouette@Keyblade87 So, how's it going? Can you give me any updates on when you think you'll be able to post?

If you're pressed for time, just in case, it's really enough to just answer Kalmia's question, if you've read it. Haha.

Well, except for Erika. She was spoken to by Claire, after all. Haha.
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