[OOC] Marvel - Dawn of Heroes

[Spud]

@Gowi Iron Man is approved by Spud and the Beefcakes (Don't ask me, I didn't come up with the name).

@Sep

Thats because I did.

Also ... I forgot to subscribe to the thread and wondered why I didn't see it anywhere in my subs ... Anyway HI

[Sep]

Sorry for not being as active here over the weekend, it's been pretty busy. Pretty hectic.

We'll get the IC rolling monday (with all due hope). @DrewVonAwesome I know you got a sheet thats being reviewed but I'll concise all the notes that are left for you in the morning as some revisions are required (Or you can bug @Natty@Dedonus or @Spud to take a look at what we've discussed.

[Dedonus]

I won't lie. I didn't know that this OOC existed...

[Sep]

@Dedonus you were linked xD

[Dedonus]

Well, I'm here now. That's all that matters.

[Omega Man]

Here here!

I'm still trying to determine who to role with in this one.

~KL~

[Spud]

Sorry for not being as active here over the weekend, it's been pretty busy. Pretty hectic.

We'll get the IC rolling monday (with all due hope). @DrewVonAwesome I know you got a sheet thats being reviewed but I'll concise all the notes that are left for you in the morning as some revisions are required (Or you can bug @Natty@Dedonus or @Spud to take a look at what we've discussed.

@Sep

Done and Done.

I'm a little concerned about getting the IC up with still more CS's to go through. Gowi has 2 more in the pipeline, Ded and I have to put up char(s), Nex, KL, Matt too ... We need to get moving with these CS's guys but I've yet to hear anything about Natty's CS (I thought Q was grand btw).

Should we not wait till everyone has at least one char accepted before starting up the IC or am I the only one with this thought? At the very least, if we can push for an IC on Monday, we need to push for more accepted Chars in that time frame as well. (leave no man behind!!!)

[mattmanganon]

Again, I have to wait for Nexus before I can effectively make my characters.

[Nexus Prime]

I should have my sheet up before I sleep tonight, I've just returned to working on it after a short break.

That being said:

Again, I have to wait for Nexus before I can effectively make my characters.

@mattmanganon

I would suggest looking for characters elsewhere, and not wait. As I continue moving forward with this sheet it is increasingly obvious to me that clones, and legacy characters such as what you are interested in do not mesh nor gel with my portrayal of Spider-Man at this point in time.

I was originally open to the idea of, at the very least, one clone existing to accommodate Rin's desire for an Ultimate Spider-Woman like character, but my attempts to work out concepts beforehand didn't pan out and I had to push forward with my character sheet with my own ideas. And, unfortunately, that didn't lead to those legacy options being viable.

[Dedonus]

@Nexus Prime: While I understand that it might be frustrating, I believe they are deferring to you to build an opportunity for a clone saga and they'll work within that framework. They might not want to dictate too much of what you are planning with your character (i.e. Spider-Man). Sure, they should contact (or should have contacted) you about making sure that his happens. However, telling someone that they should look elsewhere for a character because your yet to be accepted application might not be able to accommodate that character shows a lack of flexibility.

It would be one thing to tell someone no to an idea in the middle of a roleplay where it conflicts with your immediate plans. It is a different thing when things are not set in stone.

[Nexus Prime]

@Nexus Prime: While I understand that it might be frustrating, I believe they are deferring to you to build an opportunity for a clone saga and they'll work within that framework. They might not want to dictate too much of what you are planning with your character (i.e. Spider-Man). Sure, they should contact (or should have contacted) you about making sure that his happens. However, telling someone that they should look elsewhere for a character because your yet to be accepted application might not be able to accommodate that character shows a lack of flexibility.

It would be one thing to tell someone no to an idea in the middle of a roleplay where it conflicts with your immediate plans. It is a different thing when things are not set in stone.

@Dedonus

It's not about frustration at all. I had previously contacted Rin privately, as well as telling her - and by extension anyone else wanting to play Spider-characters - in the OOC itself to discuss their thoughts and ideas with me if they wanted so I could build an opportunity for clones. I gave notice in advance, and actively attempted to accommodate others before even beginning work on my own sheet so that in the case of if I were to be accepted everything would already gel and mesh together. So to say I'm not showing flexibility is a fallacy.

And I never said he should give up and look elsewhere, I suggested he consider looking at other characters so as to not continue to wait for something that, at this point, I do not feel is viable.

As to my potentially being accepted and landing the character or not being set in stone, that doesn't matter at this point. I made strides to be accommodating, and to work in other ideas logically and comfortably with my own, but those strides were not met. Instead, I was left to my own devices, and I designed my Spider-Man accordingly with my own ideas and directions. Because of that, what I came up with for the character doesn't allow for those types of legacies to yet be present in Peter's life. There are over fifty years of storied history to explore for Spider-Man, and I have no intention of rushing this story simply to include as much of that history as possible; that's foolish, and generally bad story-telling.

So, regardless of if I'm not yet accepted, Matt waiting on me to get my sheet up specifically before working on his own characters is a poor decision, because, by now, there is no room for those legacies and my version of Spider-Man. Which is why I honestly informed him he may want to look elsewhere so as to not have his time wasted, or expectations dashed. That elsewhere, by the way, includes his own version of Spider-Man, as Kaine or whatever. I'm not arrogantly presuming I will be the Spider-Man player. I'm merely letting those who are waiting for something that won't be coming - a clone saga of some sort - know that it will not be, and to seek out other options.

This isn't frustration, this isn't bias, and this isn't uncooperativeness. So, please, do not suggest as such.

That being said, I've got the final two years of Spidey's history to go over in this sheet, as well as filling out the rest of the sections, before I post it, and it can be accepted or denied at your collective leisure.

[Gowi]

Curious to see when my Susan Storm app becomes allowed for review.

[Nexus Prime]

I'm a dirty liar, it seems. I'll have to post the sheet relatively early tomorrow. It's rather late here now, and I'm exhausted. I'd rather not proofread and make sure the sheet is completed in the state I'm in currently, as it will only make the already terrible writing worse. So, tomorrow. Apologies.

[Sep]

I will check up on any/all thangs in the OOC once my eyes operate efficiently.

[mattmanganon]

@Nexus Prime Kaine and Judas are sort of going to be doing their own thing. They never HAVE to have any relation to Peter. Hell, I think it'd be kinda interesting for Judas being an antagonist for Peter, trying to convince Peter to join his kill-happy squad of defenders, then, when he gets tired of trying, manages to get his hands on some of Peter's DNA and makes Kaine. After that, we don't need to interact until much later. Kaine deciding to leave Peter alone through fear of what Peter might do to him should he find out.

[ErsatzEmperor]

Just an update so you guys don't think I'm going dark on you. A Moon Girl CS is in the mix, as is a Wolverine one. Depending on how these ideas flow one or two of these will materialise into actual sheets.

[Omega Man]

I almost expressed interest for the Steel Spider (cause he had cool spider legs before every few Spidey suits started using them) and he quite literally only met Spiderman once in his younger years. Still waiting for the wife to lemme have the laptop while I ponder my options then I'll see you guys in the Discord....

~KL~

[Nexus Prime]

So, some arrogant asshat just posted an obnoxious and hideous looking sheet on the previous page. @Sep, @Natty, @Spud, @Dedonus, y'all should probably go have a look and yell at this idiot. The nerve of that guy, ugh. Here's the link to the idiocy.

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Apologies in advance to those who fall asleep reading the sheet. I recognize how absurdly long, and absolutely shitty it is. And I accept that I butchered everything.

The Jessica Jones references in the sheet are for if and when @GreenGrenade applies as her, and in the situation we're both accepted, however unlikely that may be. They can be removed, however, if necessary.

Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to go die.

[Spud]

So, some arrogant asshat just posted an obnoxious and hideous looking sheet on the previous page. @Sep, @Natty, @Spud, @Dedonus, ya'll should probably go have a look and yell at this idiot. The nerve on that guy, ugh. Here's the link to the idiocy.

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Apologies in advance to those who fall asleep reading the sheet. I recognize how absurdly long, and absolutely shitty it is. And I accept that I butchered everything.

The Jessica Jones references in the sheet are for if and when @GreenGrenade applies as her, and in the situation we're both accepted, however unlikely that may be. They can be removed, however, if necessary.

Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to go die.

@Nexus Prime

Its 5am Nex ... and this thing is longer than my 3rd year dissertation!!!! ...

Well done. I'll get readin' tomorrow!!! Go get some rest, after making that thing, I think you need the sleep more than I do!

[Nexus Prime]

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Its 5am Nex ... and this thing is longer than my 3rd year dissertation!!!! ...

Well done. I'll get readin' tomorrow!!! Go get some rest, after making that thing, I think you need the sleep more than I do!

@Spud

Hey, it'll put you right to sleep if that's what you need...

Yeah, I just did the math. I spent over twelve hours yesterday working on it, and nearly twelve hours today. Aside from roughly a couple of hours sporadically spent for bathroom breaks, and food, etc that's a total of twenty-four hours to write that thing. To put that in perspective, I'm pretty sure the longest I've previously spent writing a sheet, or a post for that matter, was no more than three-and-a-half to four hours maximum. And that's on sheets/posts that were long by most standards. Sitting at my desk for that long non-stop, my muscles are killing me right now.