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Ah well that is making so much more sense. I didn't see ducks nation yet. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought I was crazy for a minute.


Its okay, I don't think he's even made his app public yet.
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I am going to say no. I want to limit the more fantastical elements to blue coal and the technology.


Okay then give me a rundown of the natives because I'm trying to figure out a reasonable excuse as to why Numburg can't power through the New World. Can the natives have some sort of magic or something to make them more dangerous than originally thought?
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I am going to say no. I want to limit the more fantastical elements to blue coal and the technology.


Aww, and I was all set to make the entirety of Nevada just a stand-in for Arrakis.
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Okay then give me a rundown of the natives because I'm trying to figure out a reasonable excuse as to why Numburg can't power through the New World. Can the natives have some sort of magic or something to make them more dangerous than originally thought?


I'm the natives. And the Europeans didn't just 'power' through the natives. Sure they fought constantly, but they also allied in some situations for a time. If you just want to power game the shit out of this then I don't want anything to do with it.
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Simple way to make the Natives fight back
Have them immune to diseases
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I'm the natives. And the Europeans didn't just 'power' through the natives. Sure they fought constantly, but they also allied in some situations for a time. If you just want to power game the shit out of this then I don't want anything to do with it.


To be fair, the Europeans did somewhat power through the natives at points. Accidentally, because the guy with smallpox resistance always seems to come out on top. I'd just say something about some sort of earlier exchange between Not-Europe and Not-America that introduced Not-European diseases, which Native Not-Americans now have resistances too. Of course, at this point, the technological gap is insane. I mean, the Not-Europeans have mechs. And at that point in societal and technological development, they're going to be far more hostile. I'd assume that a prevailing attitude in Not-Europe is "We rule, foreigners drool." and by that, I mean "We are the superior race, all others must submit to us and be taught our ways." You know, like the real part of the 1800's where Europe called dibs on the entirety of Africa.

So we really need some kind of way to make you more powerful. Maybe the Matwe threw some imported weapons together to make an anti-armor one for their own forces?

Simple way to make the Natives fight back
Have them immune to diseases


Beat me to it.
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I'm the natives. And the Europeans didn't just 'power' through the natives. Sure they fought constantly, but they also allied in some situations for a time. If you just want to power game the shit out of this then I don't want anything to do with it.


Please don't start another argument. Fox is not attempting to power-game, in fact he does not want to. He was trying to find a in-universe reason why not.

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Okay then give me a rundown of the natives because I'm trying to figure out a reasonable excuse as to why Numburg can't power through the New World. Can the natives have some sort of magic or something to make them more dangerous than originally thought?


The thing about colonies is they are really expensive to maintain and build. It would be a while before a colony grows to the point of providing for the homeland. Even then, while the Indians did suffer more losses, there were cases where they managed to overwhelm early European Colonies. Besides, initially the Europeans mostly traded with the Natives, so with the colonies are expensive thing in mind as well as the fact that through trade they could acquire weapons, it's easy to justify Numburg not powering through the natives.
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Finished my own app, its up in the dump there.

Edit:Someone do me a favor and get a up-to-date map with everybody's claims so I can update the map in the OP.
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I can't make a app currently but this seems interesting. Prepare for French Indiana.
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Please don't start another argument. Fox is not attempting to power-game, in fact he does not want to. He was trying to find a in-universe reason why not.


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The thing about colonies is they are really expensive to maintain and build. It would be a while before a colony grows to the point of providing for the homeland. Even then, while the Indians did suffer more losses, there were cases where they managed to overwhelm early European Colonies. Besides, initially the Europeans mostly traded with the Natives, so with the colonies are expensive thing in mind as well as the fact that through trade they could acquire weapons, it's easy to justify Numburg not powering through the natives.


This is a good point. The Not-Europeans are coming in smaller numbers, and if they end up in a conflict, then they could easily get overrun by the much larger numbers of natives who (if we go with the ideas put forward earlier) are resistant to Not-European diseases.

I can't make a app currently but this seems interesting. Prepare for French Indiana.


I'm just over here, having the entirety of Asia all to my imperialist self, exploiting resources.

(Speaking of that, app coming soon!)
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I'm just over here, having the entirety of Asia all to my imperialist self, exploiting resources.

(Speaking of that, app coming soon!)

Best Asia is imperial Asia cx

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I've got a bit of work to do, but I thought I'd post my WIP to tease some ideas out. I was thinking of setting up shop in what would be Spain and parts of France and Africa, or putting myself somewhere in Asia with a slightly different name.

That said, if anyone wants to chime in and help develop a shared history/culture, I'm game!
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@Aristo
I may be up for the whole shared history idea. I'm planning on playing a independent former Indiana region colony of a France like nation. If your going to be in parts of France maybe the culture that lived there coulda set up the colony in that area. I'm going for either a absolute monarchy or communist republic.
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That'd be neat! How were you envisioning you breaking away from your parent state?
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Either a peaceful increase of autonomy or through revolution. Whatever would work best.
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A lot needs to be done with this I simply need to work out the history and the app will be complete but I'm curious if it would be allowed. As you said independent new world nations need to be at a minimum. If I can't get the shared history sorted out in the next few days I'll simply go about creating a independent history. Maybe nomadic settlers.
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There has been an awakening. Have you felt it?
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I decided to try to be helpful and I pieced together all current land claims.
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