[OOC] The Rise of Man (Fallout-like RP)

[Nerevarine]

Ill get a post up after work, but basically, Osaka wants to retake Tokyo, and begin colonizing Shikoku

[ClocktowerEchos]

I guess I'll be expanding into China unless someone wants the horde knocking at their door step.

[EveryMemeAKing]

@Keyguyperson

"UTS John C Stennis"

@ClocktowerEchos

I don't even.....

[ClocktowerEchos]

<Snipped quote by ClocktowerEchos>

I don't even.....

@MetalLover

*Can't even

:3

[Keyguyperson]

Post up!

[Dinh AaronMk]

Legal Nation Name:
Kingdom of Lhasa

Territory:


Flag or Banner:


Political Party:
Prince Samten Khyenpa Gyatso
The Yellow Hats

Type of Government:
Monarchy/Theocracy

Date Out of Bunker:
2198

Productions:
Animal Products (furs, butter, milk from yak, cattle, goat, sheep)
Agricultural products (barley, wheat, buckwheat, rye, potatoes, oats, rapeseeds, cotton various other fruits and vegetables)
Some mining

History of the Nation:
The right to self rule had always plagued China from the Tibetan plateau. Whether in active resistance or in passive. But ever since its reoccupation by Chinese forces in 1950 the Himalayan kingdom had not known independence. Even as his holiness the Dalai Lama passed from this world and the lineage of the reincarnation of Gendün Druppa in the 14th century. Although gone, the Gelug sect of Tibetain Buddhism remained. Even as the bombs fell.

For those that could not retreat to protective shelters built in the highlands by the Chinese government they fled to the monasteries that dotted the Tibetan highlands and took refuge there among the monks until fire ceased falling from the sky. And when it did, all semblance of a China that was had been eradicated. And so shielded by the Himalayan mountains where what fallout existed had fallen with the rains in the southern lowlands life readopted – if somewhat unceremoniously – what it had since before even the Qing.

When the nuclear shelters finally reopened a new demography of Tibetain re-emerged. Sheltered from the brutality of the war and the climate they were a group of shelter dwellers unaccustomed to dealing with life in the mountains. But life in the shelters provided something a life tending yaks could not: they were academic.

Alliances between strong individuals and monks of the plateau effectively created and built a new bureaucracy. With these princes deriving legitimacy from the blessing of monks they named and styled themselves princes and assumed their posts to rule the harsh rocky landscape of Tibet. From the highest peaks to the lowest green valleys.

An effect of monastic influence though tempered with the secular authority derived from the princes in turn eroded many of their old-world familial names as many turned to align themselves even closer to the monks and themselves took up the name of Tibetan Monks: Gyatso. This has in turn effected inter-prince relationships by destroying dynastic identity in favor of monastic loyalty.

The first to practice this was the self-titled Prince of Lhasa, Dromtönpa Tsongkhapa; a young shelter-born Tibetan with a certain martial prowess. His adaptation of the name Gyatso earned considerable respect among the monasteries and still new to the surface others followed suit.

Dromtönpa Tsongkhapa Gyatso was ultimately assassinated by rival princes in the year 2270, hoping his son Samten Khyenpa Gyatso would prove distantly inept in his hermitage adventures. However on his return home later that winter he was horrified and astonished at his father's death. He retreated into mourning and meditation, only to come out to be crowned as the second Gyatso prince of Lhasa. And though considered philosophical, the sudden violent death of his father had brought to light a vengeful fire.

Per the rest of Tibet, the Gelug – Yellow Hat sect – of Tibetain Buddhism provides a level of lower-level social harmony. While the princes may play the pieces of political control across the highlands much of the charitable work is organized by the monks and the Lamas. Princely association is wrought through protection of these missions and to the monasteries. The operational apparatus of the Gelug has as well maintained associations with the predominately Buddhist Mongolian tribes of the north as much as through the rest of the Himalayan mountains.

Main Race:
Tibetan

Main Religion:
Tibetan Buddhism.
Sects:
Gelug (Yellow Hat)
Nyingma (Ancient Ones)
Kagyupa (Lineage of the Buddha's Word)
Sakya (Gray Earth)
Jonang

Though all the sects exist in practice in Tibet, only the Gelug is the most predominate. Focused on debate and reason the Yellow Hat school arose as a reformist movement to the older schools of Tibetan Buddhism. And since the modern era and prior to Chinese re-occupation it has been at the forefront of Tibetan politics and epitomized by Thubten and Tenzin Gyatso (the 13th and 14th Dalai Lama respectively).

Also:
Bön

Other:
Even before the bombs the Tibetan region has had poor industrial developments. Even when forced by the Chinese economic adventures in Tibet had most often failed. Although the region is poor does not put it out by their own standards and the Tibetans are a resilient, resistant people.

With the withdrawal of Chinese authority from the region the surviving Tibetan population had to re-draw its own military. The monasteries originally filled this roll with the drawing of old monastic guards – or Dob-dobs – to provide protection for themselves and the people. But with the rise of the princes there has been a much greater shift to centralized regional armies organized by them. Though these individuals may often be armed in a way considered more medieval than contemporaries in Europe. All the same, some stockpiles of still-working Chinese weapons are available to the Tibetans but their sparseness ensures that they'll only be withdrawn when the need is dire.

Also furthering Gelug habit, the nature of debate and intellectual argument has bred into the new aristocracy a craving of philosophy and debate and many princely sons do not turn themselves to war but into philosophy.

[EveryMemeAKing]

Legal Nation Name:
Kingdom of Lhasa

Territory:


Flag or Banner:


Political Party:
Prince Samten Khyenpa Gyatso
The Yellow Hats

Type of Government:
Monarchy/Theocracy

Date Out of Bunker:
2198

Productions:
Animal Products (furs, butter, milk from yak, cattle, goat, sheep)
Agricultural products (barley, wheat, buckwheat, rye, potatoes, oats, rapeseeds, cotton various other fruits and vegetables)
Some mining

History of the Nation:
The right to self rule had always plagued China from the Tibetan plateau. Whether in active resistance or in passive. But ever since its reoccupation by Chinese forces in 1950 the Himalayan kingdom had not known independence. Even as his holiness the Dalai Lama passed from this world and the lineage of the reincarnation of Gendün Druppa in the 14th century. Although gone, the Gelug sect of Tibetain Buddhism remained. Even as the bombs fell.

For those that could not retreat to protective shelters built in the highlands by the Chinese government they fled to the monasteries that dotted the Tibetan highlands and took refuge there among the monks until fire ceased falling from the sky. And when it did, all semblance of a China that was had been eradicated. And so shielded by the Himalayan mountains where what fallout existed had fallen with the rains in the southern lowlands life readopted – if somewhat unceremoniously – what it had since before even the Qing.

When the nuclear shelters finally reopened a new demography of Tibetain re-emerged. Sheltered from the brutality of the war and the climate they were a group of shelter dwellers unaccustomed to dealing with life in the mountains. But life in the shelters provided something a life tending yaks could not: they were academic.

Alliances between strong individuals and monks of the plateau effectively created and built a new bureaucracy. With these princes deriving legitimacy from the blessing of monks they named and styled themselves princes and assumed their posts to rule the harsh rocky landscape of Tibet. From the highest peaks to the lowest green valleys.

An effect of monastic influence though tempered with the secular authority derived from the princes in turn eroded many of their old-world familial names as many turned to align themselves even closer to the monks and themselves took up the name of Tibetan Monks: Gyatso. This has in turn effected inter-prince relationships by destroying dynastic identity in favor of monastic loyalty.

The first to practice this was the self-titled Prince of Lhasa, Dromtönpa Tsongkhapa; a young shelter-born Tibetan with a certain martial prowess. His adaptation of the name Gyatso earned considerable respect among the monasteries and still new to the surface others followed suit.

Dromtönpa Tsongkhapa Gyatso was ultimately assassinated by rival princes in the year 2270, hoping his son Samten Khyenpa Gyatso would prove distantly inept in his hermitage adventures. However on his return home later that winter he was horrified and astonished at his father's death. He retreated into mourning and meditation, only to come out to be crowned as the second Gyatso prince of Lhasa. And though considered philosophical, the sudden violent death of his father had brought to light a vengeful fire.

Per the rest of Tibet, the Gelug – Yellow Hat sect – of Tibetain Buddhism provides a level of lower-level social harmony. While the princes may play the pieces of political control across the highlands much of the charitable work is organized by the monks and the Lamas. Princely association is wrought through protection of these missions and to the monasteries. The operational apparatus of the Gelug has as well maintained associations with the predominately Buddhist Mongolian tribes of the north as much as through the rest of the Himalayan mountains.

Main Race:
Tibetan

Main Religion:
Tibetan Buddhism.
Sects:
Gelug (Yellow Hat)
Nyingma (Ancient Ones)
Kagyupa (Lineage of the Buddha's Word)
Sakya (Gray Earth)
Jonang

Though all the sects exist in practice in Tibet, only the Gelug is the most predominate. Focused on debate and reason the Yellow Hat school arose as a reformist movement to the older schools of Tibetan Buddhism. And since the modern era and prior to Chinese re-occupation it has been at the forefront of Tibetan politics and epitomized by Thubten and Tenzin Gyatso (the 13th and 14th Dalai Lama respectively).

Also:
Bön

Other:
Even before the bombs the Tibetan region has had poor industrial developments. Even when forced by the Chinese economic adventures in Tibet had most often failed. Although the region is poor does not put it out by their own standards and the Tibetans are a resilient, resistant people.

With the withdrawal of Chinese authority from the region the surviving Tibetan population had to re-draw its own military. The monasteries originally filled this roll with the drawing of old monastic guards – or Dob-dobs – to provide protection for themselves and the people. But with the rise of the princes there has been a much greater shift to centralized regional armies organized by them. Though these individuals may often be armed in a way considered more medieval than contemporaries in Europe. All the same, some stockpiles of still-working Chinese weapons are available to the Tibetans but their sparseness ensures that they'll only be withdrawn when the need is dire.

Also furthering Gelug habit, the nature of debate and intellectual argument has bred into the new aristocracy a craving of philosophy and debate and many princely sons do not turn themselves to war but into philosophy.

@Dinh AaronMk

I like it, accepted.

[EveryMemeAKing]

Updated Map with Osaka's Conquest and the new Tibet nation.

[PerseusArchean]

So instead of hogging this space on the map and piddling about like an idiot, I'm going to withdraw from this for now. I'll be keeping up with this with the intent of rejoining later, but for now time is stretching and I don't have any ideas anyway. My space was the reddish color in cali-mexico.

[EveryMemeAKing]

So instead of hogging this space on the map and piddling about like an idiot, I'm going to withdraw from this for now. I'll be keeping up with this with the intent of rejoining later, but for now time is stretching and I don't have any ideas anyway. My space was the reddish color in cali-mexico.

@PerseusArchean

Sad to see ya go, but seeya.

[Chapatrap]

The Republic of Ulster




The orange in Ulster.

Political Party:
Orange Order

Type of Government:
Parliamentary Republic

Date Out of Bunker:
2240

Productions:
-Agriculture
-Shipbuilding
-Clothing

History of the Nation:

With the fall of Belfast and the perceived abandonment by the British, Ulster largely retreated into the British-made "Shelters", which dotted the border counties and larger cities across Northern Ireland. However, there was never a threat of nuclear war made on the Republic of Ireland and Dublin stayed intact. In the weeks following their closest neighbour, it became apparent that large clouds of radiation were travelling across the Irish Sea from Europe and the country was put under a state of emergency. Many Irish people fled to the deep countryside or the shelters dotted across the country.

In Ulster, shelters were largely mixed, which was a change to the usual segregation by religious lines. Despite sectarian violence being common in the early years, over time, many Protestants and Catholics made their peace and it was decided in the large Belfast Shelter that upon returning to the surface, the people of Northern Ireland would no longer seek unification with the Republic of Ireland nor the United Kingdom. Instead, the province of Ulster would become it's own state, with its own laws and customs. This idea of an independent Ulster proved popular in the Belfast Shelter, especially with the younger generations who were taught to stand against the violence of their ancestors.

When the Belfast Shelter opened its doors in 2240, it found a barren wasteland where the city of Belfast once stood. The leaders of the Vault came into contact with survivors quickly. The idea of a fully independent Ulster was popular among survivors, who had largely ignored contact with other religious groups in Northern Ireland. The Derry Vault was opened by the members of the Belfast Shelter and the Republic of Ulster was proclaimed in Derry in 2262 by delegates from across Ulster. They laid claim to the old province of Ulster, from the tip of Malins Head in Donegal to the old border of Cavan. It took years of treaties and the occasional military conquest to form the Ulsterian Republic that stand today.

The old Republic of Ireland was no longer in existance and was instead inhabited by various small city states, built around the old counties they called home. Despite facing no nuclear attack, the Republic of Ireland collapsed shortly after the rest of Europe due to the pressure of no longer having viable trading partners. The Republic of Ulster shows little interest in expanding its border beyond their current form and have largely stayed on good terms with the city states in the south.

In todays Ulster, the area around Belfast is lawless and mutated. The capital, a famous walled city on the River Foyle called Derry, is the largest city in Ulster and by some predictions, the island of Ireland. Many Ulsterians are still divided on religious lines but the old issue of British or Irish was blown up along with Stormont Castle. Many don't feel Irish or British but simply Ulsterian or rarely, Northern Irish. The various paramilitary groups that existed before the bombs fell still exist in some form or another but only serve as the military wing of the political parties. The standing army largely uses weaponry stolen from old Irish or British army bases that now lay within its borders.

The Ulster Republic views the United Kingdom with suspicion and fears future attack from the British Crown. They have had limited contact with their neighbours and view this as a blessing rather than a curse. Still largely isolationist, the Ulsterians will soon need to begin extending their diplomatic arms or face the end of their independence.

Main Race:
Ulsterian/Northern Irish

Main Religions:
Catholicism: 48%
Protestantism: 43%
Other: 9%

Other:

Orange Order: Ulster Separatism/Protestant/UDA/Right-wing

Sinn Fein: Ulster Separatism/Catholic/NIRA/Left-wing

Population: 2,500,000

[Mag Lev]

@MetalLover

I wish to know one thing before I get to work on finishing my post, how advanced are we talking when it comes to Power Suits. Are they the clunky Fallout kind or are they more slim and maneuverable?

[Dinh AaronMk]

[Dinh AaronMk]

@MetalLover

I wish to know one thing before I get to work on finishing my post, how advanced are we talking when it comes to Power Suits. Are they the clunky Fallout kind or are they more slim and maneuverable?

@Mag Lev

You know, this is one of the things where I feel I should throw something cautionary out and suggest: why?

The RP may be Fallout-like but there should be an effort to not let it be directly Fallout derivative, or it's rather stale. Likewise trying for all the hot tech possible makes the everything stale. Either it be rail-guns, power-shoots, or dank disco laser beams. There's a lot of cost associated with maintaining these and can ten either really small territories or sparsely populated regions (more so than before) cope with keeping this sort of thing around?

When governments also have to worry about food distribution I think the last thing on their minds would be appropriating dried-out fuel cells for Iron Man suits (let-alone currently experimental Exo-Suits) or acquiring the active, refined uranium needed to operate and power a rail-gun.

It's something that I realized was bugging me with the last Japan post. Never mind seemingly doubling his territory in a day or a week given the post on how time is progressing.

[Nerevarine]

Such weapons, at least for Japan, are rarities only for major invasions, such as the attack on Kanto in the last post, given that most fighting at the moment is dealing with rogue tribes, and infighting between feudal lords, so they are rarely used.

Also, i have a plan for what will happen with a lot of that new land in the future.

[Mag Lev]

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You know, this is one of the things where I feel I should throw something cautionary out and suggest: why?

The RP may be Fallout-like but there should be an effort to not let it be directly Fallout derivative, or it's rather stale. Likewise trying for all the hot tech possible makes the everything stale. Either it be rail-guns, power-shoots, or dank disco laser beams. There's a lot of cost associated with maintaining these and can ten either really small territories or sparsely populated regions (more so than before) cope with keeping this sort of thing around?

When governments also have to worry about food distribution I think the last thing on their minds would be appropriating dried-out fuel cells for Iron Man suits (let-alone currently experimental Exo-Suits) or acquiring the active, refined uranium needed to operate and power a rail-gun.

It's something that I realized was bugging me with the last Japan post. Never mind seemingly doubling his territory in a day or a week given the post on how time is progressing.

@Dinh AaronMk

I agree here. The only reason I'm questioning the tech level is wondering how advanced these suits got in 200 years since they were apparently designed in the bunkers. Also questioning because I want to draw a line between infantry armor and what be defined as a 'Power Suit'. Probably going to remove Power Suits from what the Empire produces since I don't really have reason for their existence.

I do wonder why any bunker would create Power Suits in the first place since they had no idea what was above. Sure, they probably were preparing for the worst but they could have done that easier with the production of weapons or stockpile having been prepared before the end of the War.

[Willy Vereb]

<Snipped quote by Dinh AaronMk>

I agree here. The only reason I'm questioning the tech level is wondering how advanced these suits got in 200 years since they were apparently designed in the bunkers. Also questioning because I want to draw a line between infantry armor and what be defined as a 'Power Suit'. Probably going to remove Power Suits from what the Empire produces since I don't really have reason for their existence.

I do wonder why any bunker would create Power Suits in the first place since they had no idea what was above. Sure, they probably were preparing for the worst but they could have done that easier with the production of weapons or stockpile having been prepared before the end of the War.

@Mag Lev

I think the plot is somewhat a mess and you onl need to take the background with a grain of salt.
It's possible some "Vaults" designed power armors during those 200 years but it's also plausible that they were developed before or after that.
Say, in Age of Rebirth some player factions had power armored infantry as their elites. The WW4 broke out 20-30 years after that (depending which of the 3 different incarnations of the setting we take).
It's also plausible some Vaults made power armor suits in preparation to the hostile environment or were just plain megalomanical to work on advanced weapons in hopes of conquering the world.
It's also plausible some nations developed power armors after they surfaced. It may be even developed from examining a pre-war model they accidentally found.

The possibilities are almost endless. Just go with whatever you feel fun without going overboard.
Also Fallout power armors are not clunky. They might look dated which gives them a strange charm but Fallout power armors are otherwise both robust yet mobile.

[Dinh AaronMk]

<Snipped quote by Dinh AaronMk>

I agree here. The only reason I'm questioning the tech level is wondering how advanced these suits got in 200 years since they were apparently designed in the bunkers. Also questioning because I want to draw a line between infantry armor and what be defined as a 'Power Suit'. Probably going to remove Power Suits from what the Empire produces since I don't really have reason for their existence.

I do wonder why any bunker would create Power Suits in the first place since they had no idea what was above. Sure, they probably were preparing for the worst but they could have done that easier with the production of weapons or stockpile having been prepared before the end of the War.

@Mag Lev

If the purpose though of these bunkers were to preserve populations than there'd be little point in functioning high-tech military-grade equipment. A simple biohazard suit like those we use today would be more than enough for exploratory purposes.



I would also be apprehensive to even suggest that these Bunkers be the mad experiments of a company like they were in Fallout. But the pervasive distribution of them would probably mean that no one group dug and built them, so that rules it out (the Vaults of Fallout were a top-secret government and corporate experiment for only America). But even then though, most of the people in the Fallout wasteland aren't or weren't descended from Vault residents either actually.

It's also plausible some nations developed power armors after they surfaced.

@Willy Vereb

I'm going to openly and dickishly contest the possibility of this statement.

The sort of infrastructure needed for a society to produce new technology to the sort we're expecting is beyond the scope of our current non-states. Modern technology already is an international initiative demanding a diverse range of resources not always found evenly spread across the world (computing and the materials in computer chips for instance are largely only found in central Africa). Without this massive international infrastructure anymore I can't see anyone innovating into new areas of research or even accurately continuing post-war initiatives without using already dying devices (how is anyone supposed to ever produce a new CPU for a computer even when one inevitably fails, provided it hasn't been totally fried with an EMP blast which nuclear weapons put out? There's probably a very finite pool of resources for anyone to draw from to keep surviving technology alive).

There'd also be the population of appropriately educated individuals who would know enough about a thing to do that thing even if the resources were present. But since we're also talking about stuff on a broader scale than a decked-out Kalashnikov there'd also need to be a very large communications network that doesn't move at the speed of a potato nailed to the floor (remember that statement about modern tech being an international initiative?)

So really, if we're discussing stuff like power-suits or even airplanes (I feel) there's a limit that needs to be known beyond it being simply a game thing to keep stuff nerfed so no one can nerf someone else.

It's not to say that there wouldn't be groups without access to that, but since it's been a century or more since annihilation that's a lot of years of general wear on these things that would reduce their effectiveness or quality, if there's anything left. The number of people knowledgeable enough to use this equipment would be scant at best. So on that, these groups I feel would be something on the last legs of that tech, even at the last rolls of duct-tape so use of these resources would need to be incredibly measured; even in a defensive situation.

A charm of the apocalypse genre is often in just that: apocalyptic. Nothing works for its intended purpose or is run down. Or the quality is shoddy. Humanity is trying to leach of the remains of what was without any appropriate knowledge of what it was. A lot of people might figure out the simple things like smithing guns. And I say that because home-made guns are a pretty major cottage industry in the third-world: see the Khyber Pass guns.

[ClocktowerEchos]

I might be claiming a lot of land since the Khergit are nomadic hordes its the Russian interior/central Asia. I don't think there would be much there anyways. It'll be fun once I try to go into Asia proper or the Middle East or Eastern Europe, it'd be nice to get into a fight which my guys can't just steam roll with sheer numbers.

That said, anyone want interaction with meh? Its getting rather lonely on the plains ;-;

Also, my welcoming of the Irish.


_{WHO ARE WE?!
The necessary evil!
WHY ARE WE NECESSARY?!
To purge the world of evil worse than man!
And why are God's chosen few, ordained to undertake this unholy task?!
Because no one else will!
And because its fuckin' fun!}

[Dinh AaronMk]

I have an idea of what I want to do alone, so it's not needed nor would it be really possible. I could always have news reach me, but it'd be rumors and it wouldn't be for a long time after-the-fact. Later I'll be projecting myself: but not now.