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@ArmorPlated, Probably some sort of mental disorder or just a really good ability to simulate an inhuman mindset.
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@Letter Bee Well that throws a bit of a wrench into things. Mindset implies something far more than just perception of the physical body.
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@Letter Bee Well that throws a bit of a wrench into things. Mindset implies something far more than just perception of the physical body.


Oh; what were your plans? Sorry if I've forgotten.
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@Letter Bee

I don't have a plan, so much as a character figured out. If I needed to fit something important in post-creation, I'd have to make a lot of edits.

Having talked it out, everything still fits together so no wrench, just a curveball.
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You know how I said I wasn't going to follow up on this ... I guess I lied. I couldn't shake this from my head.

This needs a severe formatting and revision pass but I am making some serious assertions regarding lore. I figured it was worth posting it prematurely. After all I'm introducing the entire concept of 'the mechanical' as a lesser form of mech. Go ahead and tear this to shreds before I do my revision pass on it. I usually get bitter if I have to do more than one big one.

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@Sierra, I guessed as much; I worked hard on the Lore, after all - I redid 90% of it from the LHG100 original which I was allowed to borrow if I kept out of his hair.
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@Sierra, I'll wait for your revision pass, then I'll accept it.
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Ahh, the only Cyberpunk Mech I've seen in a game to date.

Interesting take on a low-sync specialization.
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@Letter Bee ... I want critique now so I only have to do one revision pass. Lemme put it this way: I only want to do one revision pass, so if there's anything you feel needs to be changed pending acceptance, you should tell me that now rather than later please.

@ArmorPlated The mech never struck me as overtly cyberpunk (though admittedly you could describe any hardsuit in that way) but I've always liked it. Shame the game was such a grind though.
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@Sierra, All right; well, the picture should be put under the 'Appearance:' bar, and it should be clarified better that the Mech isn't a 'True' NC but an approximation if that's what you're going for. Also, the last major concern I have is that the 'Mechanical' should have a clear advantage over, say, a super-tank or even an ordinary tank, so as to answer the question of: 'why not just use a tank'?

Actually, I should say that Tanks, APCs, and IFVs can bring down a 'True' NC if used in enough numbers and if said NC is alone.
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@Letter Bee Interesting point, if the Legion doesn't use it's NC Core to process movement and tactile response, would the pilot feel any tactile sensation from their NC at all?

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I mean, it's still a Mech, but it's totally Cyberpunk miltech, just look at the aesthetic of the plating and built-in lighting.

talking sheets critique: Aren't pilots supposed to be part of Electrum Company? Is she being contracted out by Tshwane Mining?

also, I kinda pictured Sync-Rating as a measure of some kind of NC signal integration into brain function or something like that. Lore thread says 50%-sync is the lowest viable, but does that mean low-end pilots use Mechanical control methods like Mira does, or is the implication that 50% is required to fully mentally control an NC?

If it's the latter, does that mean Mira could be an oddity, in that she's a viable sub-50 pilot?
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@Letter Bee I'm going to have to drop out of this one. Thanks for you time and I hope this rp does well!
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@Letter Bee Interesting point, if the Legion doesn't use it's NC Core to process movement and tactile response, would the pilot feel any tactile sensation from their NC at all?

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I mean, it's still a Mech, but it's totally Cyberpunk miltech, just look at the aesthetic of the plating and built-in lighting.

talking sheets critique: Aren't pilots supposed to be part of Electrum Company? Is she being contracted out by Tshwane Mining?

also, I kinda pictured Sync-Rating as a measure of some kind of NC signal integration into brain function or something like that. Lore thread says 50%-sync is the lowest viable, but does that mean low-end pilots use Mechanical control methods like Mira does, or is the implication that 50% is required to fully mentally control an NC?

If it's the latter, does that mean Mira could be an oddity, in that she's a viable sub-50 pilot?


1.) No, the NC Pilot won't feel any tactile sensation from the NC at all.

2.) It's the latter; Mira's going to be an oddity.
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the last major concern I have is that the 'Mechanical' should have a clear advantage over, say, a super-tank or even an ordinary tank, so as to answer the question of: 'why not just use a tank'?

It really isn't supposed to. The idea behind a physical control harness was developed for salvage rigs, powered exeoskeletons and such. It was never intended as a combat platform. Compared to a neural link, it is meant to be inferior in virtually every metric. If there must be an answer to that question then though I'd say this: Tanks require a crew of 2-4 people generally plus training, but fielding an equivalent armament on a humanoid form that uses direct movement control requires one person with far less training to be similarly effective.

Tanks, APCs, and IFVs can bring down a 'True' NC if used in enough numbers and if said NC is alone.

Not even a badass mecha pilot can override the Law of Gross Firepower.

Aren't pilots supposed to be part of Electrum Company? Is she being contracted out by Tshwane Mining?

I figured that would be assumed. That's the correct assumption that she's officially on loan.

also, I kinda pictured Sync-Rating as a measure of some kind of NC signal integration into brain function or something like that. Lore thread says 50%-sync is the lowest viable, but does that mean low-end pilots use Mechanical control methods like Mira does, or is the implication that 50% is required to fully mentally control an NC?

You're on the right track. A 50% sync is the minimum to fully control a mech through a neural link. Since pretty much all mechs everywhere are built with full neural interfaces, it's also the minimum to be a pilot. Mira would never have been accepted as a pilot had her overinflated reputation not preceded her. However since she had the opportunity, she found a way to cheat.

I've made the assertion that if you reduce the amount of information travelling over the neural link, the reduced load will inflate the synchronization of the pilot. In Mira's case, this boosts her sync rating high enough to achieve a viable interface. She still has some tactile feedback coming over the neural link but the primary movement control and weapon firing is handled through the physical harness. This makes Legion unique in that it's a hybrid between neural and mechanical interfacing. This hybridization is the reason that Legion is a viable low-sync mech despite relying on the inferior mechanical control harness.

It's theoretically possible that another hybrid combatant mech does exist somewhere, but it's equally likely that Legion is the only one of it's kind and Mira is the only viable hybrid pilot in the world. By all account she should never have been a pilot in the first place.
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@Sierra, thanks for the answers; they're sensible.
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@Sierra So Legion is sort-of like a gigantic cybernetic prosthesis. Brilliant.

I just sort-of assumed Sync was a hard-calculated score, but with everything laid out, it could also be a soft-scoring system. If it's soft-scored, does Sync fluctuate based on what NC Core/design is connected? Interesting question to be played out and answered IC. None of our characters would know much about the back-end/metrics anyway.
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@Sierra So Legion is sort-of like a gigantic cybernetic prosthesis. Brilliant.

I just sort-of assumed Sync was a hard-calculated score, but with everything laid out, it could also be a soft-scoring system. If it's soft-scored, does Sync fluctuate based on what NC Core/design is connected? Interesting question to be played out and answered IC. None of our characters would know much about the back-end/metrics anyway.


Sync is based on the brainstem and the structure of one's nervous system; it's normally hard-calculated, but one can theoretically 'train' the brainstem with meditation or just drugs to increase one's Sync, or yes, just reduce the amount of input the nervous system gets.
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Firstly, a question. Do pilots pair to their mechs? Essentially, do they synchronize with their mech over time to the point where it's very difficult to switch to piloting another mech (even if its very similar in formfactor)? I've kind of imagined yes.

Also, final version of Mira after a formatting & clarification pass. I may make a future revision for adding color once I decide on one, but content-wise this is pretty much final.
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@Sierra, Yes, Pilots pair to their mechs; the higher the Sync Ratio, the more quickly it happens. And the content is good; I can't object to it.

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Well in that case I've gone ahead and moved it over to the relevant section.
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