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Maybe I will figure smth tomorrow, as of now, any other ideas are gladly welcomed ;)
"I won't try* to collect any souls in hell as the only reason I do this is to rid the world of corruption(and power myself up) BUT you can consider me and my personal realm as a separate kind of hell. None can influence each other in relation to soul dealings."-what is your definition of :"soul dealings"@The Grey Dust?


Bro, listen I talk from experience here... YOu are argueing with the GM... for all that is good and holy, do not continue down this path, it only leads to misery and rocks fallling.
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...@Natsucooldude, it's called clarifying* and reaching a mutual agreement*, if we don't, then I will have no choice but to oblige to the GM.
I SWEAR, TELL ME ONE* GOOD AND HOLY THING IN THIS WORLD AND I WILL DO WHATEVER THE GM AND ANY OF YOU SUGGEST DURING THIS WHOLE RP.
PS: If it doesn't convince me than it doesn't count. XP
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@Bishop You're challenging us to convince you of goodness?
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So, there are souls, and then there are physical things. The souls are incorporeal, the corporeal things are physically there. If you are attempting to wrap your spirit weapons around the soul, you will have to treat them as a physical object with your weapon. If you treat them as a physical object with your weapon, they can treat your weapon as an physical object as well and pull back. Then as such, you will find resistance a possibility ergo, you may attempt to do this, yet since it isn't an assured way to render the souls out since it gives them a fighting change, you cannot say they are ripped out of the body in one post.

Hence not everything in hell is just a soul, those in the first layer are rendered without their bodies as their punishment, so their souls are without anything interact with the physical world. Hence, your weapons generally cannot affected them, nor they you as they are fighting on two very different states of being. Similarly, in such a line of logic, I question how your weapons at one point phased through the river of souls, and now at this point you claim they can wrap around the soul as if they were physically present...

The snake did get pulled out of the river however, which is good as it distracted it from attacking the boat since it was the only thing pretty much reacting to save your traveling vessel. Hence not all is lost. However expending souls doesn't give you a free pass to completely brush aside all obstacles. While there is indeed the brute force route, the easier route is to strike the weak points or analyze what's wrong with the scenario given.

Since this is the first battle, I'm going to reveal the design of this challenge and leave it you folks to see if your characters can logically deduce this 'key' to solving the snake:

1. As mentioned, the spirits cannot directly interact with the physical world, save for speaking their thoughts and attempt to sway your minds.

2. The snake is dead, yet somehow the spirits are able to possess the corpse and use it.

3. Something is animating the snake, which is how the spirits can control and manipulate the snake through their will, as such exists some form of spiritual conduit they are stored in.

4. Snake shed its old skin for a new hide, becoming more difficult to penetrate its hide due to the scales which become more resistant to what strikes it with each molt, Uxzan's arrow however manage to slip by scales from its small size and penetrate it, embedding it within the snake.

5. The old skin of the snake is not animating itself, hence it cannot be the part which harbors the spirits.

6. The snake is dead, yet someone in the past has managed to kill it, and not only this, but cut it into three parts which should be impossible due to the nature of the beast's scaly hide.

7. Stabbing the brain did nothing to stop them, the blood is rotting itself so the heart is probably also useless.

8. The snake speaks, but speech is not a function intrinsic to the snake (usually snakes don't speak, particularly dead ones), however that being said it is not the snake speaking but rather the voice of the spirits.

9. The internal organs of the beast are well protected from attack by its skins defense, although none of them really would matter. However some organs are not as well protected such as the eyes or tongue. But these are not usually attack targets, as what good is piercing the eyes of something without vision?

10. Hence how can the snake see? The spirits have to be possessing something which allows them to detect the movements of everything else, since the brain isn't integrating anything.

11. Tongue. The sensory organ which allows the snake to detect chemical changes and more importantly, speak.

12. The spirits are controlling the snake by channeling themselves within the beast's tongue. Sever it to silence them.

13. Alternatively, if you can tear the corpse to ribbons by attacking where the skin is weakest, from the inside. As the original hero did, by letting the beast consume them as they cut their way out of the snake since its scales cannot protect it from internal damage.

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My dear friend, your sense of logic is "very individual." I say we defeat this monster like the heroes we are, by kicking the shit out of it. I'll post tomorrow.
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@Wraithblade6 Oh yes, I'm challenging anyone who cares to accept, to convince me of true goodness.
Back to the main point, I had no way of knowing that the spirits were controlling the whole body only by the tongue, my view on possessions was that the spirit needed to control a part of the body if that part was to be moved, so I thought that the spirits were spread throughout the body, add almost impenetrable scales and I got stuck.

I don't wanna come out as "all knowing"(deja vu) but my character would at least sense an immense spiritual concentration in the tongue.{I'm really regretting building a character based on souls..., should've just gone with a common preacher damn it :P} I mean, MY NAME IS BISHOP, I could very well play the bishop with holy powers and having the power to reincarnate or disintegrate souls like in *Dante's Inferno-PSP game*(same mechanics for all consoles I guess).

@The Grey Dust On a side note, when my wires went through the river of souls, the river being solid ice in the physical realm but water in the spiritual one, my wires would have no problem moving through water or pulling the boat up. I just didn't calculate that the river wouldn't let me retrieve the boat and wires since I expected that only the souls of the damned were not allowed to escape it. That was just my logic on how things worked, not a soul expert in contrary to my character.

++Furthermore, I always viewed the serpent as a corpse, with almost nothing of use except the fangs and mouth to attack us. I was half expecting it to fly about or move abnormally for a snake since by my knowledge, the spirits don't need to behave as the beast did when it was alive, because for the beast it was it's only way of movement it's body physically allowed. I hope this youtube.com/watch?v=dkdrbg4EwGA {0:37-1:28} makes things at least a bit clearer on how I imagined it being.

Anyway, who is up for slashing it's tongue? Eclipse, would you do the honors? We haven't see you post anything after the beast emerging and attacking us.
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Alright. I'll kill the bloody snake.
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Remember. Always ask the DM for a spot/knowledge/wisdom/sensory check when beginning an encounter :P

I will happily resolve in either in the IC or the OOC for us.
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@The Grey Dust

Go ahead, i've been too busy for this rp right now. Sorry :/
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Listen bro, if you're just going to withold crucial information like this because we didn't declare that we're speciically looking for it, then I don't think this is gonna work. I always assume anything important to resolving an encounter is just outright stated from the get-go. Besides, if you wanted perception checks and the like, you should have hosted this in the tabletop roleplay section.
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Listen bro, if you're just going to withold crucial information like this because we didn't declare that we're speciically looking for it, then I don't think this is gonna work. I always assume anything important to resolving an encounter is just outright stated from the get-go. Besides, if you wanted perception checks and the like, you should have hosted this in the tabletop roleplay section.


It wasn't quite withheld, rather I'm unsure of the extent of everyone's powers to sense certain details. But in the future I'll make encounters more straightforward.
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@The Grey Dust Sorry about my absence, what's going on right now in the IC
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@The Grey Dust Sorry about my absence, what's going on right now in the IC


Giant snake is attacking. It's scales are difficult to penetrate, however Uxzan's arrows can slip past the scales since they are sleek enough to go between them. And Uxzan has so far attempted and successfully shot at the snake.

Thank you for returning. I was afraid I'd have to write people off so early x3
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@The Grey Dust so did Eclipse hit the thing?
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@Weird Tales No explenation about your absence or anything? no, that's alright. I don't mind
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Hidden 8 yrs ago Post by Natsucooldude
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hahahahah.... nah, you killed this deal with your nonsense.
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@Natsucooldude come man stop it, don't be so harsh on him...@Wraithblade6 YOU BASTARD RUINED THIS RP WITH YOUR PERSONAL QUARRELS
Ok now, jokes aside, wraith killed the snake, we got nothing to talk over before @The Grey Dust posts what happens to the layer after the snake dies, does the boat start moving again? does a door leading to the other layer becomes more visible? Oh, I remembered, we gotta fight that werewolf guy, and if I'm not mistaken he is in the first layer aye? Do we continue advancing in the woods towards the ruler of the layer? We need some directions Dust. At least post smth in the OOC to lead us in the right path or maybe have the guardian's death have some visible effect, idk. Give us a beacon to illuminate our path and course of action.
P.S- Don't tell me you're waiting on everyone to post a 2 paragraph post on re describing what happened in battle, their thoughts on that, and the gratz they gave to eclipse, are you?
P.P.S- If it is that you have been busy lately, then no problem, because it isn't as I'm gonna lose the RP momentum. The only problem that might pose the restarting of this RP(or probably permanent closure) might be the number of people constantly quitting it/becoming inactive/losing interest etc etc.
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@Bishop
It seem there are players who want this to continue. I think @The Grey Dust needs to know this and decide if he also wants to go on.
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@Wraithblade6@The Grey Dust No need to rush about that. I just found out some very promising TV shows that will at least occupy me for some weeks. And as I tried to relay earlier, no matter how much time I stay away from this RP, even if I come back after a month, I'm still up for it. It's not like I lose the momentum of it, if you understand what I mean. The main problem might be the lack of other people in this RP, which might reduce the longer our GM doesn't post.

tl;dr
I ONLY DO RP'S WHEN I'M OUT OF TV SHOWS TO WATCH. BUT I WILL STILL RP FOR THE SAKE OF FINISHING WHAT I STARTED AND NOT DITCHING IT IF YOU GUYS WANNA GO ON.
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